Biden leads the pack

Who should be the the Democrat's nominee for POTUS?

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 4 18.2%
  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 5 22.7%
  • Bernie Sanders

    Votes: 9 40.9%
  • Elizabeth Warren

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • Cory Booker

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • Total voters
    22

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
this country is fucked
I'm afraid I agree with you.

If people persist in doing things that will lead to adverse consequences then it can be very difficult to avoid disaster.

I call it the Cassandra dilemma; you know shit is going to hit the fan, but most others want to keep going.

At that point, the best thing to do is to just get out of the way.
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
I'm afraid I agree with you.

If people persist in doing things that will lead to adverse consequences then it can be very difficult to avoid disaster.

I call it the Cassandra dilemma; you know shit is going to hit the fan, but most others want to keep going.

At that point, the best thing to do is to just get out of the way.
Snore. You should get a Cassandra tattoo. I suggest your face. It must be so hard for you to be so insighful and only have organizized three people to stave off the horrors to come.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
You're still misrepresenting what I said.

Stop fucking lying and attributing it to me, clown.

I said that the campaign for the plan did not do a good job of comparing the costs of the plan with what consumers were already paying.

If you have to be dishonest with your commentary, maybe it's because you're actually wrong.
You said the issue failed because leadership said how much it would cost and people didn't want to pay for it. Your current line is "People thought it was too expensive". How is your current line any different?
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
You said the issue failed because leadership said how much it would cost and people didn't want to pay for it. Your current line is "People thought it was too expensive". How is your current line any different?
If you can't see the difference I can't help you because it's a basic English comprehension issue.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
If you can't see the difference I can't help you because it's a basic English comprehension issue.
The issue lost because people saw the price tag. Even you as much as say that, as you called it, "the campaign for the plan" couldn't sell it to the people of Colorado. As if it lost due to a communication error.

The issue only got 20% of the vote. That measure was DOA. Rather than yell at me for repeating your words back at you, how about you listen to what that smack down says about the public's readiness to approve something this large all at once.
 

peabody2018

Well-Known Member
Almost one-third of registered Democratic voters back former Vice President Joe Biden for the party's 2020 presidential nomination, making him the front-runner in a new poll.

Biden is the clear leader in Harvard CAPS/Harris's June poll with support from 32 percent of Democrats polled. Hillary Clinton, the party's 2016 nominee, finished second with 18 percent of the vote, while her 2016 primary opponent, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), sits in third with 16 percent.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) was the only other candidate to poll in double digits, with 10 percent of those surveyed backing her.

So let's take a poll here at RIU.
Biden will make a great Democrat nominee.
Tons of video of him pawing at little girls should be great campaign material
 

peabody2018

Well-Known Member
Why would they have to give up their private insurance. Up here in Canukistan we have universal health care and employers give extended plans and we an buy more to cover dental, chiro etc through many plans like Blue Cross etc.

Here in Alberta everyone gets free basic medical where we used to have to pay for it based on income. About $40-$60/mth for a family of three or $25 for a single person. Earn less than 12G/yr or so and it was free before.

You were stuck with the bill if you needed an ambulance and that's not cheap.

Lats year I needed an ambulance because we had a snowstorm the night before and my 200' driveway was under 5' snow drifts. Turned out I had a blown appendix and after running thru 3 hospitals with about 500 miles of transport got all fixed up and got a bill for zip. Not a freakin' penny. Even got free wifi all the way! :)

My wife has extended medical thru her provincial disability and I'm on her plan. I'm on federal disability but got refused provincial which I'm still contesting. I'm way up in northern Alberta and have to deal with imported doctors that don't seem to have a clue. I have horror stories. I have chronic fatigue or something like it that has gone un-diagnosed for almost 10 years and what I call 'nap attacks' that hit me 4 or 5 times a week. Haven't worked for about 6 years and living on $800/mth CPP-D. I'd get double that if I could get the provincial supplement. I'd rather get cured and go back to work driving Super-B tankers and netting $8G/mth. I'll be 65 in a bit over a year then get even less.

It ain't perfect but I won't go bankrupt or die untreated from a serious illness no matter how bad.

:peace:
Damn! How bad is the healthcare up there that you had to go to three hospitals to get treated for a appendectomy ?
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
The Dems need a fresh younger person with a spot clean slate. Whom ever must have a solid history of being in support of policies which the everyday joe young or old could benefit from.
name three things that the everyday joe and old can benefit from together:


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schuylaar

Well-Known Member
we don't need military complex or tax cuts..a conservatives dream though- political good ol boys with the intimation of racism to keep the Trumpers Trash Trumping..
 
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