Sour Wreck
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Since when has Day 1 = first sign of pistils been a thing?
Edit> ...for indoor?
that's not the way i do it either.
i count from day of flip of the lights.
but i do look at the trichs under a usb scope also.
Since when has Day 1 = first sign of pistils been a thing?
Edit> ...for indoor?
Same, for harvest, I like a good 25% amber through the scope. And I guess people can call Day 1 whatever they want but the industry standard is Day 1 of 12/12 that's the only way there can be consistency when describing and approximate flowering time.that's not the way i do it either.
i count from day of flip of the lights.
but i do look at the trichs under a usb scope also.
Nah...its all good. I knew what I meant.Lol, I hope you don't think I am trying to debate with you, Tang. We all have our own way of doing things. I was just sharing my .02. Friendly discussion.
Why do breeders even use testers?What? I guess maybe "unknown" to someone new to growing but I know if I grow say, fc GSC x Stardawg (regardless if its JJs or Gus) what to expect from the offspring. The same can be said for just about any proven male x to real deal Holyfield cuts. (another reason people should read descriptions carefully but I wont go into that)
Plus, this is all part of pheno hunting through F1s. Its about variation. You "may" occasionally come across two alleles that don't pair well but IME, its rare and often subjective.
There are few "breeders" that actually show their testing or selection process. But I could name countless that announce drops with 20 different strains 3 times a yr with nothing more than a few professionally photographed bud shots.
Not to mention all "pre-release" sales that sell out almost immediately based on exactly what I've posted....familiarity with genetics used as well as breeder credibility.
At the end of the day, we're all testers....whether anyone wants to admit that or not.
I'm sure you know what you're doing. But if just incase alot of people dont know. But floro bulbs do change spectrum and wattage as they age and with use. Might jus need new bulbs man. Or maybe just a different spectrum possibly. Idk what you have now. I'm sure they are for veg. But if they are older ones. Maybe try replacing the bulbs. I work for a sign company. We work with alot of floros. After 12 months of use. A F96t12/DL/HO bulb. Just a regular daylight 8 foot bulb. Lost 12 watts and was 6500k new. Was only putting out 4700k. And the par mapping went down 17% and that's 12 hours a day for every day for 12 months. That's a big difference with 5 bulbs. If they are older. But T5s and T8s are no exception to it either. Good luck.On a random note. I've come to the conclusion that my 5 bulb t8 sucks balls I've been using it since 04 but I am getting mad stretch and no side branching on my Gmo x dawg. I put them in mom room under the 600w mh. Maybe I will throw some led tubes in it IDK
Nice and lush... lookn tip topIf you are on a mobile device, running the app, but their website is bullshit. IG on a desktop computer using a regular browser is donkey balls.
Here is some GPS OBS, CnC, Blizzard Bush and Shoreline Genetics’ Sour Glue, just starting to stretch. Grown in an unholy combination of different media on a single dripper system, deal with it, lol.
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Is it possible to get a full plant pic?Ok so I did an actual count today. The Texas Butter is on day 46 today. Light came on at 5:05pm for the start of day 46 light cycle. She is stackn very nicely. Like I said before I do have some foxtailing going on. But idc it's all personal and what's not is made into oil anyway. But anyway. With a full veg cycle and decent size plant, this pheno would yield tremendously. I have few clones already rooted and vegging now. Lookn forward to see how she yields with a nice veg cycle. She smells plain n simple fucking amazing. The marshmallow is getting stronger n stronger. I could smell it today just in the room with the tent zipped up. She does have a chem smell coming out. It smells like new tire rubber. Not alot. Bc the marshmellow takes over. But new tire smell is what comes to mind. The buds are rock solid. I mean solid. And the frost is starting to set in. If she gets a good coat of frosting in the next 24ish days. Then she will def be a looker. The calyxes are huge and she hasn't even started to swell yet. The bud structure before the foxtailing (my fault, heat) was very nice. It's still nice. But before they were all nice xmas tree shaped. Very large for OG cut. But not to awful big. Bag appeal should be nice. Hopefully get some color with the flush. But if not still be nice. She will make them 1 bud sacks. I give credit to the genetics, but I think my samsungs help bring the weight. With the far reds and deep reds. I think maybe I got lucky with the way the spectrum mixes from the 4 different light spectrums. 3000k, 2700k, 680nm far red, and 660nm deep red. Its def been bringin the nugs.
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Yeah I'll go back out to the tent here in a bit and snap a few.Is it possible to get a full plant pic?
What breeders are you referring to because every breeders does things a little different. At the end of the day, all we have is their word.Why do breeders even use testers?
If what you say is true, they have no purpose because it's impossible to fail the "test".
It feels like you are trying to defend your buying decisions, which is unnecessary.
What you do with your money is your business.
New product testing is Gu's responsibility.
I'm willing to help, but there's no way in hell I would pay for the privilege of doing his job for him.
Hell, I wouldn't even pay shipping for testers...
I need to proof read more.Nah...its all good. I knew what I meant.
But I'll admit, sometimes I do anticipate a pile on because so much gets lost in translation.
This thread can be fickle. One day its daisies and love songs View attachment 4158418
And the next its "EAD and DIAF you M'fkers" View attachment 4158419
When did I call anyone "an idiot"?What breeders are you referring to because every breeders does things a little different. At the end of the day, all we have is their word.
And no, I'm definitely not defending my buying purchases. Not sure how you even arrived at that. Kinda weird actually.
Nor do I monitor what other people buy or how much they spend, but I do understand why many are willing to buy certain tester packs over a random auction pack because its cheaper and that certainly doesn't make them "an idiot".
Some proven genetics are highly sought after. Others...not so much.That is the entire point you're missing and I'm not sure how else I can articulate it.
*shrugs*
That's an interesting observation. I'm gonna pay more attention to the uniformity of my seeds now.View attachment 4158585 Close look at seeds show uniform size and maturity from greenpoint unlike the other guy who's seeds are not sealed View attachment 4158578