Jordan Peterson

[UncleBuck]

well for a start its missing all the racism bit...

funny how the one person in this thread asking what the nuance is, flat out refuses to watch and actual research the thing he's asking about

so post-modernism is just the new cultural marxism, according to peterson's own words

and cultural marxism is a pile of racist trash nazi conspiracy theory

so what am i missing here

 

[UncleBuck]

Post-Modernism is the ridiculous idea that there is no objective reality. That everyone interprets reality differently and therefore everyone's interpretation of reality is equally viable.

i agree, that is really stupid

objective reality shows cultural marxism is nazi conspiracy theory, and objective reality shows peterson thinks post-modernism is just the new packaging of cultural marxism

anyone who looks at that objective reality and says peterson isn't just repackaging nazi conpiracy theories for angry, disaffected loser whites is dumb and is ignoring objective reality

 

[ginjawarrior]

so what am i missing here

a fucking CLUE...

have you ever been in possession of one?

 

[Beefbisquit]

i agree, that is really stupid

objective reality shows cultural marxism is nazi conspiracy theory, and objective reality shows peterson thinks post-modernism is just the new packaging of cultural marxism

anyone who looks at that objective reality and says peterson isn't just repackaging nazi conpiracy theories for angry, disaffected loser whites is dumb and is ignoring objective reality

You are a stupid person.

Critiquing the social sciences and humanities is not supporting Nazi propaganda. Postmodernism is not cultural marxism, Jordan Peterson did not say that.

 

[UncleBuck]

Postmodernism is not cultural marxism, Jordan Peterson did not say that.

"post-modernism in many ways, especially as it is played out politically, is the new skin that the old marxism now inhabits" - jordan "repackaging nazi conspiracy theories" peterson

 

[UncleBuck]

 

[ginjawarrior]

"post-modernism in many ways, especially as it is played out politically, is the new skin that the old marxism now inhabits" - jordan "repackaging nazi conspiracy theories" peterson

so any one talking about marxism in anything but praise is a facist nazi racist puppy killer???

 

[Beefbisquit]

"post-modernism in many ways, especially as it is played out politically, is the new skin that the old marxism now inhabits" - jordan "repackaging nazi conspiracy theories" peterson

"post-modernism in many ways, especially as it is played out politically, is the new skin that the old marxism now inhabits" - Jordan peterson not mentioning "Cultural marxism"

You are a stupid person.

 

[UncleBuck]

so any one talking about marxism in anything but praise is a facist nazi racist puppy killer???

https://www.theepochtimes.com/jordan-peterson-explains-how-communism-came-under-the-guise-of-identity-politics_2259668.html


The postmodernists built on the Marxist ideology, Peterson said. “They started to play a sleight of hand, and instead of pitting the proletariat, the working class, against the bourgeois, they started to pit the oppressed against the oppressor. That opened up the avenue to identifying any number of groups as oppressed and oppressor and to continue the same narrative under a different name.”

“It was no longer specifically about economics,” he said. “It was about power. And everything to the postmodernists is about power. And that’s actually why they’re so dangerous, because if you’re engaged in a discussion with someone who believes in nothing but power, all they are motivated to do is to accrue all the power to them, because what else is there?” he said. “There’s no logic, there’s no investigation, there’s no negotiation, there’s no dialogue, there’s no discussion, there’s no meeting of minds and consensus. There’s power.”

“And so since the 1970s, under the guise of postmodernism, we’ve seen the rapid expansion of identity politics throughout the universities,” he said. “It’s come to dominate all of the humanities—which are dead as far as I can tell—and a huge proportion of the social sciences.”

“We’ve been publicly funding extremely radical, postmodern leftist thinkers who are hellbent on demolishing the fundamental substructure of Western civilization. And that’s no paranoid delusion. That’s their self-admitted goal”

 

[UncleBuck]

"post-modernism in many ways, especially as it is played out politically, is the new skin that the old marxism now inhabits" - Jordan peterson not mentioning "Cultural marxism"

You are a stupid person.

https://psmag.com/education/jordan-peterson-sliding-toward-fascism

In Peterson's new book, though, he does explicitly link postmodernism to the Frankfurt school, and in other venues he regularly uses and approves the term "cultural Marxism." One of his videos is titled "Postmodernism and Cultural Marxism." On Facebook, he shared a Daily Caller article titled "Cultural Marxism Is Destroying America" that begins, with outright racism, "Yet again an American city is being torn apart by black rioters." The article goes on to blame racial tension in the U.S. on ... you guessed it: the Frankfurt School.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Post-Modernism is the ridiculous idea that there is no objective reality.

That everyone interprets reality differently and therefore everyone's interpretation of reality is equally viable.

I'm curious about what you mean by an "objective reality". I think everyone interprets reality differently, but there is only one objective reality.

 

[Beefbisquit]

The postmodernists built on the Marxist ideology, Peterson said. “They started to play a sleight of hand, and instead of pitting the proletariat, the working class, against the bourgeois, they started to pit the oppressed against the oppressor. That opened up the avenue to identifying any number of groups as oppressed and oppressor and to continue the same narrative under a different name.”

“It was no longer specifically about economics,” he said. “It was about power. And everything to the postmodernists is about power. And that’s actually why they’re so dangerous, because if you’re engaged in a discussion with someone who believes in nothing but power, all they are motivated to do is to accrue all the power to them, because what else is there?” he said. “There’s no logic, there’s no investigation, there’s no negotiation, there’s no dialogue, there’s no discussion, there’s no meeting of minds and consensus. There’s power.”

“And so since the 1970s, under the guise of postmodernism, we’ve seen the rapid expansion of identity politics throughout the universities,” he said. “It’s come to dominate all of the humanities—which are dead as far as I can tell—and a huge proportion of the social sciences.”

“We’ve been publicly funding extremely radical, postmodern leftist thinkers who are hellbent on demolishing the fundamental substructure of Western civilization. And that’s no paranoid delusion. That’s their self-admitted goal”

So, let me get this straight. Anytime Peterson mentions western culture, that makes him racist because people who actually are racist also mention western culture?

You are a stupid person.

 

[UncleBuck]

So, let me get this straight. Anytime Peterson mentions western culture, that makes him racist because people who actually are racist also mention western culture?

You are a stupid person.

it's just raining coincidences out here.

why are all these nazis and jordan peterson using the exact same codewords and phrases?

must be that jordan peterson HATES those nazis! that's why he uses the exact same refrains as them

i am very logical and smart. now watch these eighteen videos which are 43 minutes each

 

[Beefbisquit]

it's just raining coincidences out here.

why are all these nazis and jordan peterson using the exact same codewords and phrases?

must be that jordan peterson HATES those nazis! that's why he uses the exact same refrains as them

i am very logical and smart. now watch these eighteen videos which are 43 minutes each

You are a stupid person.

He explicitly states that Marxism, not Cultural marxism, was what post-modernism morphed into.

He explicitly states that the proletariat vs bourgeois has become the oppressed vs oppressors.

How much more literal does he have to be before it gets through that troglodyte skull of yours?

 

[UncleBuck]

You are a stupid person.

He explicitly states that Marxism, not Cultural marxism, was what post-modernism morphed into.

He explicitly states that the proletariat vs bourgeois has become the oppressed vs oppressors.

How much more literal does he have to be before it gets through that troglodyte skull of yours?

marxism is an economic philosophy, he is using it as a social philosophy

the type of marxism he is talking about is cultural.

hence why he says cultural marxism is destroying america and blames the frankfurt school

 

[Beefbisquit]

What he said was that because Marxism was basically a dirty word after the USSR human rights abuses, its proponents had to change their code words. The proletariat became the oppressed, and the bourgeois became the oppressors.

What idiotic conclusion you make up from that in your head is on you. Leave the rest of us out of your delusions of persecution and conspiracy.

Oh, and marxism is a political and economic way of analysing class structure, not an "economic philosophy"...

You can't even get the simple stuff right, no wonder you have trouble at the grown-up table. Does someone cut your food for you?

 

[UncleBuck]

What he said was that because Marxism was basically a dirty word after the USSR human rights abuses, its proponents had to change their code words. The proletariat became the oppressed, and the bourgeois became the oppressors.

What idiotic conclusion you make up from that in your head is on you. Leave the rest of us out of your delusions of persecution and conspiracy.

Oh, and marxism is a political and economic way of analysing class structure, not an "economic philosophy"...

You can't even get the simple stuff right, no wonder you have trouble at the grown-up table. Does someone cut your food for you?

the contortions needed to defend peterson are incredible

congrats on your cult membership beefdog

 

[Beefbisquit]

the contortions needed to defend peterson are incredible

congrats on your cult membership beefdog

You are the embodiment of Poe's law.

 

[UncleBuck]

You are the embodiment of Poe's law.

you are defending a guy who says cultural marxism is destroying america and that we need to defend western civilization from it

ya know, the same exact thing david duke says

 

[Beefbisquit]

you are defending a guy who says cultural marxism is destroying america and that we need to defend western civilization from it

ya know, the same exact thing david duke says

You are misrepresenting a person's views to the extent of retardation. He clearly states his case, which is against post-modernism. Post-modernism is the idea that there is no objective reality. He is claiming that this ideology is eroding western culture, and you think that makes him a Nazi.

You are a stupid person.