Affirmative Action is dead

Should Affirmative Action be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 44.4%
  • No

    Votes: 5 55.6%

  • Total voters
    9

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
She reminds me of what Sarah Palin's retarded sister would be like, if she had one.

She might fuck it all up so badly we have to rebuild from the ground up.


Feds:
"Fuck your kid, we need to give $2bill of YOUR money to weapon companies to arm teachers"
Too bad she's just the comic book villain sister of a nefarious mercenary with billions of dollars.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
WASHINGTON — The Trump administration will encourage the nation’s school superintendents and college presidents to adopt race-blind admissions standards, abandoning an Obama administration policy that called on universities to consider race as a factor in diversifying their campuses, Trump administration officials said.

The reversal would restore the policy set during President George W. Bush’s administration, when officials told schools that it “strongly encourages the use of race-neutral methods” for admitting students to college or assigning them to elementary and secondary schools.

I really don't know about this one
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I believe in a merit system, but I also think that the usually disenfranchised Latino/Black/Native American communities that almost always had too face sub-standard school systems due to this bull shit, supposedly equal education for all system that the US supposedly has in place, (unless you happened to exist in a impoverished area), then it's tough shit, pull up your boot straps, and deal with it.

My wife is a teacher in an low income Black/Hispanic school district, and has too buy pencils for her students, whereas where I live, 30 miles away, each student gets their own computer.

Something is very wrong here, and it show's with crime and poverty

I think that the blacks and Native Americans especially, considering the experiences they have endured up to date, can use a break, and should.

What is your opinion?
most educational systems are going to ignore Trump's directive. It's all going to come down to legal challenges and the choices schools have to make between diversity and legal risk. At this time, legal risk is small and schools know that it's not all about grades and SAT scores when picking the most likely to succeed..
 

gonnagro

Well-Known Member
I don't need reminding, seeing as I am in the process of figuring out how to pay for my son's admission into college next year.
He has good grades, but probably won't get many scholarship offers (doesn't play sports), and my income level doesn't meet the criteria needed for assistance.
So, here we go again, just another student that will walk out the door into America with a massive debt load that will take him (me) years too pay off.
This American higher educational system is fucked, the only winners are the banks that provide the loans, and the young men/women of America are the losers.
This actually is a national emergency, but we, it seems would rather focus on fucking immigration and the further build up of already the largest military in the world.
Will we fucking EVER get our priorities straight?
Ha ha ha
Fat fucking chance.
Seriously not trying to be a dick here but this very well could be a parenting issue. My oldest went through college and only borrowed when absolutely necessary, (he worked full time). He didn't finish in 4 years but he did leave with a mechanical engineering degree and only $11000.00 in debt.

My youngest is now in the process of doing the same thing. He's doing it a little differently by going for an associates in something that will pay right now and then finishing a business degree. He has yet to borrow any money and has finished 3 part -time semesters.

It can be done but it takes planning and being alert to profitable opportunities. Everyone complains that life is short but there is plenty of time to get that degree and work at good jobs while your obtaining it. theres also investments that will help with books and lab fees. It's your job as the parent to show them these things and provide a safe place while they achieve them.

This was not written to insult in any way. Just saying it's possible but you got to show them and teach, which is what parents are supposed to do.
 

blu3bird

Well-Known Member
I don't need reminding, seeing as I am in the process of figuring out how to pay for my son's admission into college next year.
He has good grades, but probably won't get many scholarship offers (doesn't play sports), and my income level doesn't meet the criteria needed for assistance.
So, here we go again, just another student that will walk out the door into America with a massive debt load that will take him (me) years too pay off.
This American higher educational system is fucked, the only winners are the banks that provide the loans, and the young men/women of America are the losers.
This actually is a national emergency, but we, it seems would rather focus on fucking immigration and the further build up of already the largest military in the world.
Will we fucking EVER get our priorities straight?
Ha ha ha
Fat fucking chance.
I'll probably get bashed on for this, have you and your son considered a vocational school? Nothing wrong with learning a skilled trade. There is a national shortage of skilled trade workers right now. He could probably be hired into a company before he even finishes training/school. Vocational school is cheaper than college, so you won't have crippling debt when your son finishes.

While this isn't a whole lot of money, I do have a friend that went to vocational school for HVAC, he makes 80K a year, he can support his family and live comfortably.

I don't know, was just a thought for you and your son is all
 

SneekyNinja

Well-Known Member
Seriously not trying to be a dick here but this very well could be a parenting issue. My oldest went through college and only borrowed when absolutely necessary, (he worked full time). He didn't finish in 4 years but he did leave with a mechanical engineering degree and only $11000.00 in debt.

My youngest is now in the process of doing the same thing. He's doing it a little differently by going for an associates in something that will pay right now and then finishing a business degree. He has yet to borrow any money and has finished 3 part -time semesters.

It can be done but it takes planning and being alert to profitable opportunities. Everyone complains that life is short but there is plenty of time to get that degree and work at good jobs while your obtaining it. theres also investments that will help with books and lab fees. It's your job as the parent to show them these things and provide a safe place while they achieve them.

This was not written to insult in any way. Just saying it's possible but you got to show them and teach, which is what parents are supposed to do.
SHOTS FIRED!
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
I'll probably get bashed on for this, have you and your son considered a vocational school? Nothing wrong with learning a skilled trade. There is a national shortage of skilled trade workers right now. He could probably be hired into a company before he even finishes training/school. Vocational school is cheaper than college, so you won't have crippling debt when your son finishes.

While this isn't a whole lot of money, I do have a friend that went to vocational school for HVAC, he makes 80K a year, he can support his family and live comfortably.

I don't know, was just a thought for you and your son is all
Thanks for the input.
 
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