First Grow! : CFL/HPS 8 Plants
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DKskater75
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Originally Posted by chunkymunkey33
They don't need a warrant with the "patriot act" in place.
They don't need a warrant with the "patriot act" in place.
i thought that was just for terrorism and shit haha
wyteberrywidow
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yeah i dont know what this guys talkng bout...
DKskater75
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PATRIOT ACT SECTION 505
Section 505 authorizes the use of what's essentially an administrative subpoena of personal records. The subpoenas require no probable cause or judicial oversight.
Before Patriot, these letters could only be issued against individuals who were reasonably suspected of espionage. But Patriot loosened the standard by allowing the letters to be used against anyone, including U.S. citizens, even if they themselves are not suspected of espionage or criminal activity. These letters may now be issued independently by FBI field offices, rather than by senior officials. And unlike Section 215 warrants, they are not subject to even perfunctory judicial review or oversight.
The records that can be obtained through the letters under Patriot include telephone logs, e-mail logs, certain financial and bank records, and credit reports, on the assertion that such information would be "relevant" to an ongoing terrorism investigation. THEY CANNOT BE USED IN ORDINARY CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS. Unlike 215, no court ordernot even a rubber-stamped orderis required. Those forced to turn over records are gagged from disclosing the demand.
i dont think we have anything to worry about unless any of you guys happen to be terrorists...
Section 505 authorizes the use of what's essentially an administrative subpoena of personal records. The subpoenas require no probable cause or judicial oversight.
Before Patriot, these letters could only be issued against individuals who were reasonably suspected of espionage. But Patriot loosened the standard by allowing the letters to be used against anyone, including U.S. citizens, even if they themselves are not suspected of espionage or criminal activity. These letters may now be issued independently by FBI field offices, rather than by senior officials. And unlike Section 215 warrants, they are not subject to even perfunctory judicial review or oversight.
The records that can be obtained through the letters under Patriot include telephone logs, e-mail logs, certain financial and bank records, and credit reports, on the assertion that such information would be "relevant" to an ongoing terrorism investigation. THEY CANNOT BE USED IN ORDINARY CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS. Unlike 215, no court ordernot even a rubber-stamped orderis required. Those forced to turn over records are gagged from disclosing the demand.
i dont think we have anything to worry about unless any of you guys happen to be terrorists...
DKskater75
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well see there you go haha just dont go blowin any buildings up and growin at the same time... wait dont blow up buildings anyway...
wyteberrywidow
Global
whats the size of your flower tent again?are you flowering in the homebox xs??i think i have to get 1 so i can pack more plants..i want to use another 400 or a 250..
DKskater75
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prove its your ip and then prove that you were the one using it haha but yeah wyte i just use the XS for veg. the other half of my closet is for flowering its 3x5 no tent just floor space...
wyteberrywidow
Global
damn i gotta do something about light leakage,im thinking about getting a growtent with vent ports already.The closet i have now has no holes so i gotta cut it and i dont want it to breakdown..lmao...I could use the closet to veg then get a tent to flower in,but then i would have to hold on getting the cooltube..
wyteberrywidow
Global
my closet now is 2x2x6 so its just 2 feet higher tahts why i didnt put the 400 in yet..I figured it will get too hot but i might have to take a bullet this grow...
chunkymunkey33
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Here are a couple links for you...
Senate Renews Patriot Act - Cannabis.com Forums Message Boards - Medical Marijuana, Cannabis Club, Dispensary, News
The Seattle Times: Local News: Marijuana smuggling case first local use of Patriot Act provision
Making a Meth of the PATRIOT Act: Legislative mission creep will turn runny noses and lobster fishing into terrorist acts - Reason Magazine
Marijuana News - US NC: Editorial: Drug Rules Slipped Into Patriot Act
there's more info out there, you just have to find it.
wyteberrywidow
Global
thanks for that but i really dont care about it no offense..
chunkymunkey33
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Then why would you make a comment like that?
wyteberrywidow
Global
because they are not locking me up without a warrant..they need the man behind the photo but who is in a photo..
DKskater75
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so what do people posting info about the patriot act on marijuana sites have to do with anything? all those talked about were smuggling and money laundering... how does this relate to us again?
DKskater75
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yeah i was just trying to figure out what those links had to do with anything...
paperfetti
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dk,did ureport me or some ish?..why is a name in the reputation area on my RIU page and it says warrant fuck...i dont get it