redi jedi
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Thats on the low end. I was paying 1200 a month for 1200sqft. That was cheap for my area, should been around 2000$ I dont remember the max sq footage for a micro but I think its around 2100sqft.
New regulations may spark Canada’s craft cannabis revolution
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GroErr
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Yep, not cheap, $10/sq. ft is doable, just not always where you want it.
I was looking around for any updated/final documentation. It looks like it'll be published on Wednesday...
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-medication/cannabis/laws-regulations/regulations-support-cannabis-act.html
Somatek
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http://www.craftcannabis.ca/resources/
There's a link to the regs if anyone is still looking.
There's no restriction that micro growers have to sell to LP's, both LP's & micros are covered by the same restrictions for selling. Which ultimately the distribution is determined by how the province sets it up.
I seriously doubt LP's will take over. The key in the new market is genetics & underground growers/the community have the advantage there. Since all it takes to make plants/seeds legal is a declaration in the application, whoever has the fire now holds the power. Does anyone think LP's have better genetics then the community? That's laughable.
I'm sure LP's will try to poach as much as they can by enticing growers to join them or co-brand with them (like zenabis, they've had a site recruiting micro's for months now). Partnering up with established seed companies like Greenhouse will probably be another strategy. I assume most micro's realise that building a brand is a lot more profitable the selling at the get go. That's if they're interested in selling at all, I expect most would rather keep growing. Regardless I expect the market will be flooded with competition in a year or two and that'll sort out the survivors.
There's a link to the regs if anyone is still looking.
There's no restriction that micro growers have to sell to LP's, both LP's & micros are covered by the same restrictions for selling. Which ultimately the distribution is determined by how the province sets it up.
I seriously doubt LP's will take over. The key in the new market is genetics & underground growers/the community have the advantage there. Since all it takes to make plants/seeds legal is a declaration in the application, whoever has the fire now holds the power. Does anyone think LP's have better genetics then the community? That's laughable.
I'm sure LP's will try to poach as much as they can by enticing growers to join them or co-brand with them (like zenabis, they've had a site recruiting micro's for months now). Partnering up with established seed companies like Greenhouse will probably be another strategy. I assume most micro's realise that building a brand is a lot more profitable the selling at the get go. That's if they're interested in selling at all, I expect most would rather keep growing. Regardless I expect the market will be flooded with competition in a year or two and that'll sort out the survivors.
GroErr
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Thanks, saw that link it's not the full regulations, a summary and highlighting some changes. You're right though, ultimately the province you're in will determine options for selling direct to consumers. Along with the federal regulations, each province will have a site e.g. Ontario's is: https://www.ontario.ca/page/cannabis-legalization
R.Raider
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Great, wonder how long that'll take to work out?
Somatek
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Clicking on the link pulls up the full 390 page regulations for me. The same ones HC mailed me that'll be printed in the Canada Gazette on the 11th. Not sure what summary you're talking about.
The big question in Ontario is whether Ford will license private sales as well as having the OCS. So far all he's said is he's going to consult people before deciding. With town's like Smith Falls pushing for private sale to boost local tourism I don't think anyone can sure 100% what he'll do. I believe the OCS hiring freeze is over again, they have a lot of work to do. So far all that's happened at the local location is a table & chairs apparently appeared.
In terms of the new regs, a microgrower would be allowed to sell directly to the OCS or private companies from my quick reading. How much space stores give to local micro's is another issue.
Somatek
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One of the license classes is for analytical testing, it's probably a safe bet that's who'll be doing the testing if they created a class specific for it separate from a research license.
If you read the regs it's pretty obvious they're creating a free market so that any interested party can get involved & compete. It's entirely possible to set up a micro that's vertically integrated by stacking nursery, production, processing, testing & sales. Still haven't read exactly what a federal sales license allows since provinces control distribution. Other then there's a sub-class for medical sales, which could mean direct medical sales if you can out produce the LP's.
GroErr
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That's bizarre, once I downloaded the document I got the full doc, although they claim the final version is to be published tomorrow on the site. Likely just a stamped version of this doc. Will have to do some reading, keeping in mind everything here is at the federal level. Not a lot of details on the ON site.
It is unfortunately going to be province by province. Haven't heard much about Ford's stance in ON other than pre-election comments, he's been fairly quiet since he was elected on this subject. He claims he's all for open market but it depends who signed what contracts prior to him being elected. Not interested in growing nor selling weed other than personal, just seeds directly to consumers or retailers. It's wait and see how it develops for now, maybe a move is in order, timing is right for me anyhow as I'm just a few years to retirement. Some clear options/documentation by province would be nice if anyone finds any.
GroErr
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If I wanted to run a BM seed company I wouldn't be here discussing legal options, I'd be selling seeds while looking over my shoulder every 10 minutes, taking cash or bitcoin only because the banks and card brands won't allow BM businesses to use cards, have no insurance because I couldn't get insured, get my drift?selling privately is the way to go...
if the y dont like your business model..
Somatek
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The official release is on the 11th but anyone who emailed & ask for a copy was emailed the PDF awhile ago. Took less then 24 hours for them to reply to my email asking for a copy.
Since being sworn in Ford has confirmed he will continue with the OCS plan but that he'd consult his party & vested interests about the possibility of private licenses.
A nursery license by itself is pretty limiting as they only allow something like 50sq m of canopy for flowering. Which is why most people are talking about stacking at least a nursery/production license. Use the whole production license to flower/make selections, nursery provide the veg space/gene bank & a bit of space for seed production. If you aren't interested in selling bud you could always just offload to a processer to be used in edibles. That's the beauty of what they've done, it's open & flexible (especially being able to produce co-ops) so there's lots of room for innovation.
R.Raider
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Well that's lame, I've been waiting since last week to hear back from them. Oh well, I can wait another day or two until they post it I suppose.
bigmanc
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interesting about the nurseries allowing flowered product
Somatek
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Or just download a copy from the link provided above.
Somatek
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Gotta be able to produce seed somehow, which is hard if ya can't flower at all.
bigmanc
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Yeah I get that I just want a license to sell whatever I want and grow whatever I want
R.Raider
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Oh I didn't realize that was the final regs. Thx for the heads up.