Chunky Stool
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Yeah, a 5X5 isn't great for 1,200 watts plus co2.
I'd ditch the co2 and just run dual 600s plus a carbon filter and vent outdoors.
Run em at night and it should work great!
I just got to week 4 of flower, and I’d like to get some hardness to my harvest.
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I'd ditch the co2 and just run dual 600s plus a carbon filter and vent outdoors.
Run em at night and it should work great!
Strudelheim
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Yeah you have a few options. You can get a better exhaust fan and keep temps down which you should do regardless of what you decide to do with your lighting if you reach 85F often. And yes you should be running at night, at least during summer. And if you have your intake directly from outside you will have no issues with high temps guaranteed. You can use a speed controller to dial in temps essentially this way.
Add a second 600W (problem i see with 2X600W HPS is that Im not sure how you would make a even 5 by 5 footprint with them),
Switch to a 1000K which is perfect for 5 by 5, depending on the reflector hood used. ($400)
Switch to new quantum board, which uses 550W and puts out same light as a 1K-low heat/even light spread/most efficient. ($1000-$1500)
Switch to 630W CMH which also is same output as 1000W HPS. ($650)
Add a second 600W (problem i see with 2X600W HPS is that Im not sure how you would make a even 5 by 5 footprint with them),
Switch to a 1000K which is perfect for 5 by 5, depending on the reflector hood used. ($400)
Switch to new quantum board, which uses 550W and puts out same light as a 1K-low heat/even light spread/most efficient. ($1000-$1500)
Switch to 630W CMH which also is same output as 1000W HPS. ($650)
reallybigjesusfreak
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I'm not speculating, I'm telling you. You need more light. Invest in more light and a better vent system. Get something that can draw 5-600 CFM. I run anywhere from 800-1000k in my 4x4 and never get above 80 because my vent system is decent.
Dialing in your environment isnt just throwing the cheapest exaust fan to a hood.
Fatleg77
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Cannabis loves a consistent environment
Tx-Peanutt
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Yeah I use a 600 watt hps in a 3 x3 and get good results
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MichiganMedGrower
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You sure do!
Tx-Peanutt
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I ran into a cal/mag problem because I mixed urb and Mammoth P together trying to see if they would work .. It didn’t so I’m trying to get it back to normal again.. We will see
reallybigjesusfreak
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The most benificial part I’ve found of running Mammoth P is it seems to do a really good job of making them money, and that’s about it. I’ve ran it, did a side by side, noticed no difference.
Tx-Peanutt
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The URB seems to be performing really well .. I didn’t buy any of the bottles they sent me testers .. The first pic is June 22 2nd is June 25 last July 1st .. There is a big difference in them
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DinoTech
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I say keep the CO2. It definitely cant hurt.
Light energy is what is going to help you achieve the results you are looking for as long as you have the genetics. Some buds just don't dense up like others. Indicas are what you should focus on or a hybrid.
I hate to tell people to go out and buy new stuff unless that is what they are asking. Since everyone has suggested new lights, I want to jump on that band wagon. LED lights will produce much better results and a whole lot less heat issues.
Sorry about the purple, I took the pics with my phone. These 4 plants are in 7 gallon pots inside an area that is 3.5' x 4.5', With the LED's I use, I can enlarge the space to 6'x6' if needed.
Front left plant is a rare Indica phenotype of the Jack Herer strain. It will produce dense hard buds, but the one in the back to the right is a Sativa dominant (Golden Goat) and it produces fluffier buds. Although the LED still tightens them up good. In the other pictures you can see the dense growth and fat stalks these lights produces.
LED's produce 90% light and 10% heat. Those HID lights are just the opposite. 90% Heat and 10% light. Plus only a small % of the HID is usable to the plant. Unlike the LED which is spectrum tailored so the plants uses most of the light produced. Very efficient plus LED lights last on average for 5 years, so no bulb changes and one of these lights I use produces 400 true watts of completely usable light for only $500-$600.
Light energy is what is going to help you achieve the results you are looking for as long as you have the genetics. Some buds just don't dense up like others. Indicas are what you should focus on or a hybrid.
I hate to tell people to go out and buy new stuff unless that is what they are asking. Since everyone has suggested new lights, I want to jump on that band wagon. LED lights will produce much better results and a whole lot less heat issues.
Sorry about the purple, I took the pics with my phone. These 4 plants are in 7 gallon pots inside an area that is 3.5' x 4.5', With the LED's I use, I can enlarge the space to 6'x6' if needed.
Front left plant is a rare Indica phenotype of the Jack Herer strain. It will produce dense hard buds, but the one in the back to the right is a Sativa dominant (Golden Goat) and it produces fluffier buds. Although the LED still tightens them up good. In the other pictures you can see the dense growth and fat stalks these lights produces.
LED's produce 90% light and 10% heat. Those HID lights are just the opposite. 90% Heat and 10% light. Plus only a small % of the HID is usable to the plant. Unlike the LED which is spectrum tailored so the plants uses most of the light produced. Very efficient plus LED lights last on average for 5 years, so no bulb changes and one of these lights I use produces 400 true watts of completely usable light for only $500-$600.
Tx-Peanutt
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What kind of light do u have ?? How old are your plants ??
xtsho
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"Plus only a small % of the HID is usable to the plant. Unlike the LED which is spectrum tailored so the plants uses most of the light produced."
That quote sounds like it came straight from the marketing material of "Insert LED Light Company Here". This is getting ridiculous with people coming on here raving about very expensive LED lights and slamming HID's. Almost like a combined effort by LED light companies to spread disinformation. People have been growing excellent quality weed with HID's for decades. Now they suck according to some LED fan boys.
Look, LED's work and they might have a lower heat imprint. But you can grow just as good of weed and better with HID's. I haven't seen any LED grows that are any better than HID grows. All I see is people paying tons of money to get the same results as I get with a $200 600 watt HID. Most serious LED growers have moved beyond those blurple lights you're using. If you paid $500 - $600 each for those lights you spent too much money on them.
Tx-Peanutt
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That’s what I’m talking about .... Cobs is where it’s at when it comes to leds
reallybigjesusfreak
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Can you mention the brand? As a HID runner I think you’re talking out of your ass. Heat is 0 issue if you know what you’re doing.
DinoTech
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Wow. you can actually feel the saltiness around here. LMAO> You are entitled to your opinion, but you know what they say about those!
reallybigjesusfreak
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I’m not salty. What brand of led?
DinoTech
Member
LOL, well it didnt. Like I said you can almost taste the salt in the air around here. You don't have to like it but I made that up all on my very own. See i'm a big kid too!
P.S> I never said they suck! Why is it people put their own words to other peoples post in an attempt to make them look right/intelligent?
reallybigjesusfreak
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YO. Answer the question, okay sure I’m salty. Whatever. Now address what LED you “don’t want to come off as a shill for”