You lot complain about Trump and US politics?

ttystikk

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The "pressure" has been no different to any other time since the Cold War started at the end of WW2, the US/UK/Europe have been just as bad insofar as interfering with other countries, and even within themselves as we saw Obama take one stance regarding Brexit, which did piss off a lot of Brits and may well have done more to affect the end result than any Russian activity, and Trump take another. The only difference is that there has been decisions taken by voters which have returned results that a shouty minority did not want, and rather than admit that they fucked it all up on their own with no help from anyone else they invent a Bogeyman, which just makes them look even more ridiculous than they already did thanks to the ever-increasing hysteria as, despite the time and money spent on investigating such things in numerous countries, no evidence that Russia or any other country had a direct and/or significant effect on the outcome of any election or referendum in the last 3 years.

And the worst thing about it is that the average intelligence across various countries has dropped significantly as they would rather believe any old lies and propaganda on Facebook than actually spend a few minutes looking at what has actually happened.
The only part of this I disagree with is the idea that the West has been as bad as Russia in meddling in the affairs of other Nations.

No, we've been far, far worse. It could very fairly be said that whatever minor nudging the Russians may be guilty of- and it couldn't be much or it would have been much easier to find- we are getting just the barest taste of our own medicine.

It will never be forgotten by Russians that Boris Yeltsin was a Western stooge. Few know about it on this side of the pond, however.
 

londonfog

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Enlighten me.

Seriously, I'm all ears.
I will tell you one detail.
Drones operate on radio signal and can be hijacked rather easily in countries with the tech. Manned air crafted can most certainly avoid this and override.
Unmanned aircraft right now can only fly in uncontested airspace. Kinda hard in a dogfight.
I beg of you to stick with conversations and things you know about.
If someone asked you to explain the specs of a F35 vs MQ-1C Grey Eagle, you would be at a lost
 

londonfog

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Enlighten me.

Seriously, I'm all ears.

UCAVs can already deliver ordinance to a kitchen table anywhere on the planet and they can already outturn a meatbag. The F-16's greatest performance limitation was the pilot, that's not news.

AI now beats the world's best at Chess and Go, the mechanics of furballs aren't that complicated.

Even if it hasn't all come together just yet, it will happen soon.

What say you?
and you had to add more to make you appear more foolish ? NO... UCAV cannot deliver payloads anywhere in the world.
Tech today does not allow unmanned aircraft to make complex independent judgements in an unknown environment . Please STFU
 

MichiganMedGrower

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and you had to add more to make you appear more foolish ? NO... UCAV cannot deliver payloads anywhere in the world.
Tech today does not allow unmanned aircraft to make complex independent judgements in an unknown environment . Please STFU

Finally a subject you know something about. Good job!
 

ttystikk

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and you had to add more to make you appear more foolish ? NO... UCAV cannot deliver payloads anywhere in the world.
Tech today does not allow unmanned aircraft to make complex independent judgements in an unknown environment . Please STFU
Intolerant Liberal, still trying to tell others to shut up because you can't handle debate.

Tell us where a drone can't fly, Spaceman Spliff?
 

ttystikk

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I will tell you one detail.
Drones operate on radio signal and can be hijacked rather easily in countries with the tech. Manned air crafted can most certainly avoid this and override.
Unmanned aircraft right now can only fly in uncontested airspace. Kinda hard in a dogfight.
I beg of you to stick with conversations and things you know about.
If someone asked you to explain the specs of a F35 vs MQ-1C Grey Eagle, you would be at a lost
AI is coming for the jet jock- and not even Top Gun will survive when a machine that can think in terraflops and turn at 15g comes for him.

Your assumption that telepresence is required is already quaint and outdated.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-1C_Gray_Eagle

The Grey Eagle isn't a UCAV- and it's a 20-30 year old program. The notion that I'm talking about its like is as quaint and outdated as your argument.
 

londonfog

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You start telling me about aircraft and I will listen.

Every other subject you seem a two dimensional crybaby.
Cool
and if you tell me about meth, I will listen as well. Why does that shit make you pick at your face ? Does meth prevent one from having children. Does it fuck up your appetite? Is it really as easy to make as they say. Why do people do that shit. Is the rush like cocaine.
Oh I also hear you are an expert with crack as well. Do you prefer meth of crack ? What is the most meth you have done in one sitting. What about crack. Which one you think made your poor bones so brittle ?
 
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londonfog

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AI is coming for the jet jock- and not even Top Gun will survive when a machine that can think in terraflops and turn at 15g comes for him.

Your assumption that telepresence is required is already quaint and outdated.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-1C_Gray_Eagle

The Grey Eagle isn't a UCAV- and it's a 20-30 year old program. The notion that I'm talking about its like is as quaint and outdated as your argument.
General Atomics MQ-1C Gray Eagle - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-1C_Gray_Eagle
The General Atomics MQ-1C Gray Eagle (previously the Warrior; also called Sky Warrior and ERMP or Extended-Range Multi-Purpose) is a medium-altitude, long …

  • Maiden flight: Oct, 2004
  • Type: Unmanned combat aerial vehicle
  • Manufacturer: General Atomics Aeronautical Systems
WAIT maybe you don't understand what UCAV stands for...Unmanned combat aerial vehicle.
You do see that her maiden flight was Oct 2004. Are you dumb in math as well because that is not 20-30 years ago.

Really stick with shit you know. You are really sounding like @schuylaar. Learn to admit you are wrong. It will help your dumb ass learn
 

PetFlora

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Well, may I suggest you have a look at what is happening in the UK right now because, well, no matter what you people think, there's nobody that can create a clusterfuck like the UKGov hasover Brexit.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2018/jul/09/david-davis-resigns-as-brexit-secretary-live-updates

You guys have so much to learn about political incompetence...
It's to keep us distracted so we don't question events like Sandy Hook, Columbine MSF High... etc,

If you ever doubted whether it was a psyop. Notice it's on a new video channel which was started because of YT censorship. This is but one example of governments gun agenda, but ther are many in different categories exposing the lies and real intent of government) things that prove conclusively that our government (both parties) collectively want to control the crap out of us and will resort to this as well as real events oh and don't forget banksters wars, which keep them all in biness

https://www.real.video/5807994769001
 
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ttystikk

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General Atomics MQ-1C Gray Eagle - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-1C_Gray_Eagle
The General Atomics MQ-1C Gray Eagle (previously the Warrior; also called Sky Warrior and ERMP or Extended-Range Multi-Purpose) is a medium-altitude, long …

  • Maiden flight: Oct, 2004
  • Type: Unmanned combat aerial vehicle
  • Manufacturer: General Atomics Aeronautical Systems
WAIT maybe you don't understand what UCAV stands for...Unmanned combat aerial vehicle.
You do see that her maiden flight was Oct 2004. Are you dumb in math as well because that is not 20-30 years ago.

Really stick with shit you know. You are really sounding like @schuylaar. Learn to admit you are wrong. It will help your dumb ass learn
And you're seriously going to tell us that it sprang from the drawing board into production, fully formed, with no development prior to 2004? Even I know you aren't that stupid.

Big difference between a drone that drops ordinance and one that can take on fighter plane in a dogfight.

Your argument that they don't exist and won't for the next 20 years is simply not supported by the facts.

Your angry vitriol clouds your judgement and dulls your arguments.
 

londonfog

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And you're seriously going to tell us that it sprang from the drawing board into production, fully formed, with no development prior to 2004? Even I know you aren't that stupid.

Big difference between a drone that drops ordinance and one that can take on fighter plane in a dogfight.

Your argument that they don't exist and won't for the next 20 years is simply not supported by the facts.

Your angry vitriol clouds your judgement and dulls your arguments.
STOP. What about your comment that the gray eagle is not a UCAV.
Now you trying to change up your argument and still failing. Dude you a fucking joke
 

ttystikk

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It's to keep us distracted so we don't question events like Sandy Hook, Columbine MSF High... etc,

If you ever doubted whether it was a psyop. Notice it's on a new video channel which was started because of YT censorship. This is but one example of governments gun agenda, but ther are many in different categories exposing the lies and real intent of government) things that prove conclusively that our government (both parties) collectively want to control the crap out of us and will resort to this as well as real events oh and don't forget banksters wars, which keep them all in biness

https://www.real.video/5807994769001
Sandy Hook wasn't staged.

On the other hand, undercover police forces dressing up and acting as 'protesters' to commit violence, specifically so their departments can then use it as an excuse to crack down on peaceful protesters is a tactic that actually been promoted and has been in use for years.

See police actions at WTO protests in Denver and elsewhere.
 
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