ttystikk
Well-Known Member
The only part of this I disagree with is the idea that the West has been as bad as Russia in meddling in the affairs of other Nations.The "pressure" has been no different to any other time since the Cold War started at the end of WW2, the US/UK/Europe have been just as bad insofar as interfering with other countries, and even within themselves as we saw Obama take one stance regarding Brexit, which did piss off a lot of Brits and may well have done more to affect the end result than any Russian activity, and Trump take another. The only difference is that there has been decisions taken by voters which have returned results that a shouty minority did not want, and rather than admit that they fucked it all up on their own with no help from anyone else they invent a Bogeyman, which just makes them look even more ridiculous than they already did thanks to the ever-increasing hysteria as, despite the time and money spent on investigating such things in numerous countries, no evidence that Russia or any other country had a direct and/or significant effect on the outcome of any election or referendum in the last 3 years.
And the worst thing about it is that the average intelligence across various countries has dropped significantly as they would rather believe any old lies and propaganda on Facebook than actually spend a few minutes looking at what has actually happened.
No, we've been far, far worse. It could very fairly be said that whatever minor nudging the Russians may be guilty of- and it couldn't be much or it would have been much easier to find- we are getting just the barest taste of our own medicine.
It will never be forgotten by Russians that Boris Yeltsin was a Western stooge. Few know about it on this side of the pond, however.