HPS heat vs led heat

CCCmints

CCCmints

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growingforfun said:
2 things.
First, did I miss something? I feel like I saw someone say hey man long time no, good to have you back, and since then you've basically been saying fuck you to him in every post. Anyways...
And second, I see where hes coming from. Many of the pictures of quantum board grows are foxtailed buds. I've heard several times QBs encourage foxtailing.

Foxtail buds are one of those things that some people love or at least dont care, and some hate and wont allow in the garden.

A Mongo frog seems to be in the camp he wont allow them in his garden and as a result wont use a QB.

What's wrong with any of this?
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Yes, you're missing something. I don't know how that's your perception. Try reading the thread.

Mongo frog follows me around everywhere I go and trolls me until he gets embarrassed and disappears. Very strange man. He built a COB light, and failed to produce good cannabis with it. If you think that's the techs fault, you don't know much about this either.
 
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growingforfun

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I used to grow a Afghan that was extremely popular and much loved. It grew a distinct compact pinecone shape and a nug was generally 2-3 g and dense as a motherfucker. If I changed lights and it went all foxtailed on me i may be extremely mad on that alone. I may not care so long as it didn't upset others, but this was just a dream to trim and much loved by everyone. I can easily see it being the type of thing where someone has a crop "ruined" and holds a grudge over it
 
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growingforfun

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CCCmints said:
Yes, you're missing something. I don't know how that's your perception. Try reading the thread.
. If you think that's the techs fault, you don't know much about this either.
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Based on this right here I think your a asshole an i dont think i like you either. I wanted to give you a shot but every post I've seen from you is shitty an aggro.

Diff tech does preform and grow differant kinds of bud. That's well known. CFL, floro tube, my, hps, burple from my experiance all grow differently. I have not personally used a QB, and it's something I'm interested in... but like I said before I've heard several times it tends to make buds foxtail.

Now if that's not the case, is it wrong to ask for photos showing otherwise? Honestly what's the problem asking for photos showing non-foxtailed bud?
 
CCCmints

CCCmints

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growingforfun said:
Based on this right here I think your a asshole an i dont think i like you either. I wanted to give you a shot but every post I've seen from you is shitty an aggro.

Diff tech does preform and grow differant kinds of bud. That's well known. CFL, floro tube, my, hps, burple from my experiance all grow differently. I have not personally used a QB, and it's something I'm interested in... but like I said before I've heard several times it tends to make buds foxtail.

Now if that's not the case, is it wrong to ask for photos showing otherwise? Honestly what's the problem asking for photos showing non-foxtailed bud?
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Well you want to be snarky and say stupid shit, you're going to get a snarky stupid response. Give me a shot? Who are you? Idk why you people on this forum start shit and then get wrecked and cry about it.

Thinking a photograph can tell you jack shit about the quality of bud is ludicrous. If you can't understand that, just move along.

Btw, I don't support QBs. I think they're trash. I'm saying, if he failed with a custom COB rig, its his fault. There's really no other way around it.
 
Overgrowthegov

Overgrowthegov

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growingforfun said:
I used to grow a Afghan that was extremely popular and much loved. It grew a distinct compact pinecone shape and a nug was generally 2-3 g and dense as a motherfucker. If I changed lights and it went all foxtailed on me i may be extremely mad on that alone. I may not care so long as it didn't upset others, but this was just a dream to trim and much loved by everyone. I can easily see it being the type of thing where someone has a crop "ruined" and holds a grudge over it
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Yo dude, I think this might have been the "Christmas tree" bud we had all through the 90's?
 
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growingforfun

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CCCmints said:
Well you want to be snarky and say stupid shit, you're going to get a snarky stupid response. Give me a shot? Who are you? Idk why you people on this forum start shit and then get wrecked and cry about it.

Thinking a photograph can tell you jack shit about the quality of bud is ludicrous. If you can't understand that, just move along.
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Yep looks like your a total dumbass. Look dude you've done nothing but look like a bitch so eat shit. I tried being friendly with you, I wanted to give you a shot since I'd never interacted with you before, but there it is. I've seen mongo frog all over these forums being nice an helping people out
 
Johnny Lawrence

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Lucky Luke said:
@kinggrow1 To prove HPS is as cool as LED you need to prove it to us. Photographic proof.

We need a picture of you holding a turned on warmed up HPS bulb in your hands. Just a little 250W is fine.
Then a pic of you holding a switched on 250w LED in your hands.

Hot tip: You may want to hold the LED one first.
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If you push a COB to 250, it's gonna burn your hand.
 
Kushash

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Kingrow1 said:
You can substitue ir with warm air temps.... omg never heard such obvious bs.
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OK. Your responce only made me sad.

I can break my post down for you and we can go through each sentence one at a time for clarity and I could dispute your BS claim. If you can't see what is BS and what is not in such simple sentences how can you discuss and understand complex subjects.
I think you are tired (hopefully) or sometimes age changes us (sad reality).
The second is what has me worried and sad.

If you ever want to set up a private conversation and go through my post line by line, I'll be here.
I wouldn't mind if MMG sat in and read along.

At least the guys I know are giving you space.

You once advised me to take a break from the sections that had me triggered in a bad way. You told me to come hang out in the General Section with you. I didn't listen and did it my way.

My advice to you is to take a break from the General Section.
Maybe hang out in Pweezy's thread in Newbie Central.
Maybe take a break.

I didn't listen, you won't listen. At least we have this in common Brother.

Others are reading along and will judge for themselves how each individual is treating you and as a group RIU members have a very good memory even when stoned lol. I was happy to see a member try to talk one of your opponents down yesterday in another thread.

At the beginning of this thread I posted:
I'm going to have a toke and add this to my watch list for entertainment value.
It's no longer entertaining or fun to read, just sad.

Maybe we will chat at a later date.
 
dubekoms

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growingforfun said:
Based on this right here I think your a asshole an i dont think i like you either. I wanted to give you a shot but every post I've seen from you is shitty an aggro.

Diff tech does preform and grow differant kinds of bud. That's well known. CFL, floro tube, my, hps, burple from my experiance all grow differently. I have not personally used a QB, and it's something I'm interested in... but like I said before I've heard several times it tends to make buds foxtail.

Now if that's not the case, is it wrong to ask for photos showing otherwise? Honestly what's the problem asking for photos showing non-foxtailed bud?
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I think it really depends on the strain or even pheno. I've had some that do and some that don't under led(qb and cobs) each pic is a different plant
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ttystikk

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growingforfun said:
Here's the thing, one of the biggest factors is in fact BAG APPEAL. It's like presentation with food. Know we all know theres bud out there that's 1000x better than it look at first glance. As a personal grower it's easy to overlook the bag appeal aspect because hey, you know what's good, and you like what you like an that's all there is to it. However let's say someone walks into the dispo, they have let's say 30 options to pic from. They are likely going to look at each jar, pick out 5 that look good, maybe smell em, an buy what they want.
After 8 years of growing I def have a bud structure I'm after.
Imo your buds DO look good. However it's also not the structure I would be thrilled to pull from my garden as a monocrop. As part of a few strains, sure, because it does look good imo.

All that said I have never used QBs, would love to give em a shot. I used to have a 600 true watt burple but it was stolen... that burple was a good tool and grew bud, and truly shined as a SUPPLIMENT to hps.
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Blurple does work well as a supplement to HPS.

Fortunately, LED technology has moved on and modern designs don't need to be combined with other lighting for optimum results.
 
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growingforfun

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ttystikk said:
Blurple does work well as a supplement to HPS.

Fortunately, LED technology has moved on and modern designs don't need to be combined with other lighting for optimum results.
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All I'm sayin is I've never used it, an if for some reason, any reason, I didn't like it for one task, I could probably find a way to make it work.

I dont think there would be any issues, I'm already getting fantastic results with the lightbulb style leds.
As you may remember from a couple weeks ago when it came up lol.
Those plants are now in "medium veg" lush, not stretched, leaves an nodes all doing well. Last week I added 30 more watts of led as it entered what I call medium veg.
I increase the watts slowly to keep pace with where the plant is. Cuts need very very little, young veg needs more etc etc.
Plants have all been topped now, and need transplanted to the 2 qt containers

As about half the plants have been already transplanted the second level of the veg area is active, and I'll also turn on a 45 watt cfl 12 hours a day. Both levels get crossover light, the top light isnt "needed" just extra.
It's going to be too hot here to turn on any more lights for veg let alone flower for another month an a half, so this Is all they get for a while and I'm gonna have to try to keep them contained
 
Lucky Luke

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thumper60 said:
LOL ya my legal state sucks who thought up this shit LOL u greedie fker!!View attachment 4166118
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You and I have been on this roundabout before. You like legal due to the harsh laws you had. And you happy with paperwork and licensing and plant counts and and, and. I dont know why you didn't just decriminalize it and make cannabis just like growing a vegetable or herb or flower. We don't have harsh laws around it were I am and its a good way to make some pocket money.

What you selling ounces for and do you have to worry about bag appeal and foxtailling buds? That was the context it was said in.
I'm getting an easy $250 (with no fluctuation in price) and its gone as soon as its dry with an extremely rough trim.

Greed? I'm very reasonably priced.
Greed is good. Americans even elected a greedy fkr, maybe a Russian greedy fkr as Leader of the free world. How is that for irony?
 
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growingforfun

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dubekoms said:
I think it really depends on the strain or even pheno. I've had some that do and some that don't under led(qb and cobs) each pic is a different plant
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That last photo is what I try and keep in my garden. The first ones look good also, but going to be a pain to trim more so than the last photo.

The first ones remind me of some of the tga strains I used to grow, he has good genetics, flavorful, frosty, but gas a bud structure I'm not always thrilled on. Ya theres lots of exceptions, he does have all kinds of strains of course. His 3rd dimension grew fuckin marbles for example..
 
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