Would you be growing weed if it weren't legal

Serious question; do you think their lives were ruined by weed or the criminal Justice system? Or to put it another way, is the punishment worse and more abusive to people's lives and futures than whatever harm might have been caused by the use of cannabis?
They were absolutely ruined by harsh laws.
Oklahoma seems to have corporate prison meat grinders funded by young people.
 

Lucky Luke

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Sticking my toe back in the water for clarification's sake. :

I live in probably the harshest state for marijuana convictions in the US.
The good ole boys down here do not play.
Got busted/profiled/demonized several times as a teenager.
Found out first hand you are the sum total of the company you keep.

Got married at 21, we had a kid; told my wife I had decided I wouldn't do it anymore until it was legalized.
Didn't want to jeopardize anything good going on in my life.
Getting high was not worth losing everything.

Fast forward 33 years later:
Medical marijuana just passed in Oklahoma.
I was one of the first to beat feet down to the clinic.
Grandpa has arthritis in his back it seems.

During that interim I held down several good paying jobs which required pee testing.
I now own my own business free and clear and work from home; semi-retired.
I have a beautiful house on the lake with lots of acreage - all completely paid for.
I have a net worth of about 1.5 million bucks.
My kids are clean, decent, happy people with no problems.
They married clean, decent, happy people and they have good jobs they love.
My grand kids are a joy to behold.
All done on the straight and narrow.

Did I miss getting high?
Yes, a lot sometimes.
Life is hard.

Was it worth the sacrifice?
I think so.

Was my family's outcome due to the decisions I made as a young man?
I think YES.

To each his own I reckon,
But sometimes I look at the County Sheriff's blotter page with all the otherwise okay kids rotting in their jail;
ham-strung the rest of their lives with felony possession convictions.
We are a product of the decisions we make.

I might have ended up being divorced, alone, in a dead-end job, scraping just to get by and pay the land lord.
I don't know if that's the case of course.
But that's exactly what happened to my best friend in high school.

Okay- now you can call me a dumb-ass. :)
Nice story and glad it all worked out well for you.

I smoked on and off all my life and got into trouble as a teenager. At 21 went backpacking through Europe, went round Australia twice and lived in the dessert and by the side of crocodile and shark in festered waters. Slept in parks and in the dunes of deserted beaches. Never had trouble finding work whenever I felt motivated to.

Life has never been hard, although its had its tough times. Life is awesome.

My net worth is not as much as yours...probably about 600k. (could of easily been a millionaire but jumped out of the Sydney property market 5 years to early but no real regrets) I live in a pretty large home on 1 1/2 acres. Semi retired at 40 and also own my own business's and work from home. Im not a fan of work so I work to live not live to work. Got married in my mid 40's.

My point is pot has no bearing on were you end up in life. That's you, your outlook and what choices you want to take. For eg a very good friend of mine is an alcoholic, has been an alcoholic since he was about 20. He came to Australia with 1/2 a pack of cigarettes and $5. In 10 years he turned that into well over a Mill (in fact he lost a million in one weekend once..but that's another story) and has comfortably won the "He who has the most toys wins" race. He is still an alcoholic.
 
My point is pot has no bearing on were you end up in life.
I can dig it.
My point is - here where I live pot possession can ruin your life in a hurry.
The cops here thrive on drug busts.
It's their bread and butter.

I chose to stop so I could stay free and provide for my wife and kids the best way I knew how.
I chose to stay here in this horrible place because of our family ties.

Now that it's legal, I'm all in.
But I still have to wait till I get my medical card in September or cultivation is a felony.
I choose to wait.
After all these years what's another month?
 

too larry

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I can dig it.
My point is - here where I live pot possession can ruin your life in a hurry.
The cops here thrive on drug busts.
It's their bread and butter.

I chose to stop so I could stay free and provide for my wife and kids the best way I knew how.
I chose to stay here in this horrible place because of our family ties.

Now that it's legal, I'm all in.
But I still have to wait till I get my medical card in September or cultivation is a felony.
I choose to wait.
After all these years what's another month?
I stopped growing and smoking for 11 years because my wife had a chance at a big time job. She made a bunch of money, and I got to be respectable just by hanging on to her coat tails. She retired and I've eased back into the grow game. Florida has medical, but there is no home growing permitted. So I'm still out in the bush.
 

Gbuddy

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You can tell your government that the use of mj changed my mind when I was armed with a pumpgun ready to pump some not so loyal familymembers into hell.
Not bad for a classified illegal drug!

It took a great friend a couple of hours, a endless row of bonghits and countless bourbon shots to calm me down.
And it was the weed that made me hand out the ammo to my friend.

Weed makes no criminals only laws do that.

If everybody would smoke pot the world would be a better place.

But unrestricted unregulated totally decriminaliced is the only way to go.
Why because any blackmarket will play billions into the wrong hands.
Never legalize import hash/weed.
Why?
Because you want your Taliban to keep hiding under Rocks not driving Lasertanks and Warjets. NWFT would be a rich region if they could legally export.

Simple Math.
When I can grow 100 plants in my Garden no need for import.
If they sell hash and weed from the local farmer for 1$/gram no need for import.
Blackmarked and smuggling = dead
 
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fragileassassin

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Not at all!
Been dying to grow for years, but the state I lived in until recently has some of the strictest laws in the US and it wasnt worth 30 years.
Now that I am in a legal state I am still doing my best to stay legal and only growing what the county allows me to at home even though I was given a big ass extended count med card.
I am far too paranoid to be breaking the law to that extent.

Here in Florida you can shoot unarmed folks at gas stations as long as you say you were frightened. Yet they still put you in cages for growing weed.
My previous state was the same way!!
 

Gbuddy

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Not at all!
Been dying to grow for years, but the state I lived in until recently has some of the strictest laws in the US and it wasnt worth 30 years.
Now that I am in a legal state I am still doing my best to stay legal and only growing what the county allows me to at home even though I was given a big ass extended count med card.
I am far too paranoid to be breaking the law to that extent.



My previous state was the same way!!
MAAAAAAAAN!?
30 Fucking years for weed??
THAT LAWS ARE SICK!!!
You still live in that state and now its legal?
I wouldnt live there anymore not even if I'd got payd to stay!
Sorry but only sick brains can.burry a man behind bars for 30 years just for growing personal meds.

In my country you could grow a walmart.grow kill all cops who try to raid it and after that rape their families and after 15 years you back in the saddle.

For just growing weed if you have done no crime before, its hard to come into prison here.
And I am happy about that.
Other drugs is a other story.
But still I find its sick that they can raid your house if they suspect a lil grow.
Man my home is my castle.
Its way to small to grow a train load of weed in there, so stay the fuck away coppers!

Man how different places are!

I heard in India or asia you now can be killed by law for road traffic abuse.
So car crash at the wrong place. Headshot!
How nice a country.
Realy doesnt that sound inviting?
 

fragileassassin

Well-Known Member
MAAAAAAAAN!?
30 Fucking years for weed??
THAT LAWS ARE SICK!!!
You still live in that state and now its legal?
I wouldnt live there anymore not even if I'd got payd to stay!
Sorry but only sick brains can.burry a man behind bars for 30 years just for growing personal meds.
No lol, I moved half way across the country to get away from there. It'll likely be one of the last states to go full legal if we dont see national legalization. Ive seen first time offenders with relatively clean records get max sentence.


Distribution or Cultivation of Marijuana
Any amount (first offense) Not Classified 5* - 30 years $ 50,000
Any amount (subsequent offense) Not Classified 10* - 60 years $ 100,000
with the * being a mandatory minimum
 

Sour Wreck

Well-Known Member
MAAAAAAAAN!?
30 Fucking years for weed??
THAT LAWS ARE SICK!!!
You still live in that state and now its legal?
I wouldnt live there anymore not even if I'd got payd to stay!
Sorry but only sick brains can.burry a man behind bars for 30 years just for growing personal meds.

In my country you could grow a walmart.grow kill all cops who try to raid it and after that rape their families and after 15 years you back in the saddle.

For just growing weed if you have done no crime before, its hard to come into prison here.
And I am happy about that.
Other drugs is a other story.
But still I find its sick that they can raid your house if they suspect a lil grow.
Man my home is my castle.
Its way to small to grow a train load of weed in there, so stay the fuck away coppers!

Man how different places are!

I heard in India or asia you now can be killed by law for road traffic abuse.
So car crash at the wrong place. Headshot!
How nice a country.
Realy doesnt that sound inviting?
some american states are very draconian and need to be continually slapped into the present. they like to go backwards, fucking redneck , fake christian pieces of shit...
 

fragileassassin

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some american states are very draconian and need to be continually slapped into the present. they like to go backwards, fucking redneck , fake christian pieces of shit...
The state is broke AF too. Huge budget issues. They were presented a good plan to legalize and tax rec. It would have solved a lot of the states money issues. It pretty much wasnt even considered.

Those are the newer punishments they finally decreased to within the last few years, it was considerably worse before then.
 
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