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CoB_nUt

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Nice girls BHB... I'm interested in the live resin process as well. Is it plausible to do for the average joe? ie...no highly expensive equipment to purchase.
 

NoWaistedSpace

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That's what I really dont like about RIU. Everyone is a master grower. I'll be the first to say I've been growing for over 20 years, 10 years before that I helped my dad daily. Learned everything he knew. I've spent countless hours reading, learning. And I still learn something new almost every day from someone even if they have less experience than i do. To me the minute you think you know it all, you know nothing.
I grew my first plant in 1974. Have grown off and on for over 40 years and am still learning. Got more serious about it right after 9/11. I bought ever 'Skunk' strain I could get my hands on at the time. Some of the 'Skunk' would make you sick at your stomach to smell it in full bloom.
 

Blake_n_Concentrates

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Hickok Haze @55 Days
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The little ones in front might finish before the HH

I’m thinking about turning a 1/3 of this crop into Live Resin (never done it)
Two harvests ago, I turned 90% of a 4x4 harvest into live resin sauce. The sauce turned out amazing and yielded surprisingly well for live resin. The real bummer is that almost every extractor out there wants to split the product as payment which is balls imo and it just isn't worth making yourself (dangerous, can lubricant oils, improper vac equipment, etc). This last harvest, I ended up getting a rosin press instead and doing flower rosin. Product wasn't quite as good obviously but the quality is all in my hands and I get to keep it all. I think the set up was about $1k all said and done but it is safe and will last forever basically. This next round, I am thinking of freezing some off the bat and trying bubble bags and making live rosin.
 

CoB_nUt

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Two harvests ago, I turned 90% of a 4x4 harvest into live resin sauce. The sauce turned out amazing and yielded surprisingly well for live resin. The real bummer is that almost every extractor out there wants to split the product as payment which is balls imo and it just isn't worth making yourself (dangerous, can lubricant oils, improper vac equipment, etc). This last harvest, I ended up getting a rosin press instead and doing flower rosin. Product wasn't quite as good obviously but the quality is all in my hands and I get to keep it all. I think the set up was about $1k all said and done but it is safe and will last forever basically. This next round, I am thinking of freezing some off the bat and trying bubble bags and making live rosin.
Thanks, yea I have a rosin press. I love my rosin. I have an associate that buys "sauce" regularly.The shits is maddd tastey, It's too expensive IMHO. He gets it from out of state as Noone in my neck of the woods produces as of yet.
 

Blake_n_Concentrates

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Thanks, yea I have a rosin press. I love my rosin. I have an associate that buys "sauce" regularly.The shits is maddd tastey, It's too expensive IMHO. He gets it from out of state as Noone in my neck of the woods produces as of yet.
Have you looked into the live rosin process? Wouldn't take too much more to get there except for bags and technique and I've seen some amazing results!
 

BigHornBuds

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Nice girls BHB... I'm interested in the live resin process as well. Is it plausible to do for the average joe? ie...no highly expensive equipment to purchase.
From what I’ve read, I don’t see why an average guy with common sense n a little skill couldn’t do this.
The biggest problem I see is keeping everything cold with no fancy gear.
So timing will be important from chop to wash. But I live in Canada, it gets pretty cold here so itll probably be easier in the winter. 80-90% of the hash I make is in the winter because I get better results n it’s easier to work with . I’m guessing this will be no different, I’m a hands on learner
And don’t mind fucking up, if I learn something from it. Got to start somewhere
 

NoWaistedSpace

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My interest is peaked. Is there good info on COBS on this site? Didn't Heisen post a pic with some cobs on a rail recently?
RapidLed has the kits to build your own diy. Same kit as Heisen has. I purchase everything from them. I think I have close to 50 Vero 29's now. I use 5.88' bar heatsinks from Heatsink USA.
Visit "growmau5" on youtube. Watch his Led how to vids and you will be able to build your own with confidence. Start with a basic design and you will be on your way to up to 20% increase in yield. Also, no replacing LED's for years to come.
They do create a lot of heat. But the heat is above the light, not below like HPS and MH lights. Heat is what destroys LED components,so you have to keep the heat down and you should have no problems.
Growmau5 is the LED expert. He is easy to understand too.
 
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BigHornBuds

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Two harvests ago, I turned 90% of a 4x4 harvest into live resin sauce. The sauce turned out amazing and yielded surprisingly well for live resin. The real bummer is that almost every extractor out there wants to split the product as payment which is balls imo and it just isn't worth making yourself (dangerous, can lubricant oils, improper vac equipment, etc). This last harvest, I ended up getting a rosin press instead and doing flower rosin. Product wasn't quite as good obviously but the quality is all in my hands and I get to keep it all. I think the set up was about $1k all said and done but it is safe and will last forever basically. This next round, I am thinking of freezing some off the bat and trying bubble bags and making live rosin.
I have an education in hydrocarbons n LELs
Also a completely vented (down draft) area.
It’s a about hazard control.
I thought about pressing but don’t wanna bother with packing the little bags,
I can wash a lot faster.
When I can squish QPs (without taking out a loan) I’ll be more interested.
 

macsnax

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Two harvests ago, I turned 90% of a 4x4 harvest into live resin sauce. The sauce turned out amazing and yielded surprisingly well for live resin. The real bummer is that almost every extractor out there wants to split the product as payment which is balls imo and it just isn't worth making yourself (dangerous, can lubricant oils, improper vac equipment, etc). This last harvest, I ended up getting a rosin press instead and doing flower rosin. Product wasn't quite as good obviously but the quality is all in my hands and I get to keep it all. I think the set up was about $1k all said and done but it is safe and will last forever basically. This next round, I am thinking of freezing some off the bat and trying bubble bags and making live rosin.
I just made some fresh frozen last week, superb flavor. I've been seriously thinking about getting a rosin press and squishing some of this stuff.
 

robert 14617

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I have to make a clarifacation ,my tomahawk seedlings came out perfect ,the tops curled and were bleached .....I had the t5 grow lamp too close these plants would have been perfect I made a mistake , sorry I suggested poor phenotypes, the fact they survived me speaks volumes
 

40AmpstoFreedom

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I have to make a clarifacation ,my tomahawk seedlings came out perfect ,the tops curled and were bleached .....I had the t5 grow lamp too close these plants would have been perfect I made a mistake , sorry I suggested poor phenotypes, the fact they survived me speaks volumes
Hmmm heat can definitely make the sides start to go up to dissipate heat but man it mirrors pH exactly with the whorling. I have 'burnt' mine on a T5 before long ago and they didn't whorl at all they burnt and had raised edges. It took them growing directly on to the tubes of the T5 to burn and turn to just brown dead matter. Room was air conditioned well though.

Those lowers would not yellow like iron deficiency from a T5 either pH off definitely will though (it can from over watering though why i asked). Glad they came out of it, but I would definitely pH your soil in a slurry, pH runoff as well, and make sure whatever you are using to check it is on point. The smaller plants are much more susceptible to it and can acclimate sometimes depending on genetics as they get bigger.
 
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hillbill

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I have to make a clarifacation ,my tomahawk seedlings came out perfect ,the tops curled and were bleached .....I had the t5 grow lamp too close these plants would have been perfect I made a mistake , sorry I suggested poor phenotypes, the fact they survived me speaks volumes
Thanks for the explanation and having the personal courage and humility to do so. Just that much honesty is sometimes scarce. Breeders like that, I am sure.
 

SoHappy101

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Question for some of the LED-heads, anyone have any experience with HLG300 qb’s or something equivalent?
Are COB’s the way to go? Curious if the qb’s are as awesome as the cob’s that everyone speaks of.

Not trying to strong-arm the thread, but it’s so hard to get a honest opinion whilst shuffling through the arguing/mayhem on all the other threads.
This thread is by far the best one on here....much more respectful, informative and insightful.
 

hybridcheef

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is this all under one light for real lol? i cant tell in the picture if theres another one. the buds look huge for that many plants under that light. how many watts you running it at?
 

Blake_n_Concentrates

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I have an education in hydrocarbons n LELs
Also a completely vented (down draft) area.
It’s a about hazard control.
I thought about pressing but don’t wanna bother with packing the little bags,
I can wash a lot faster.
When I can squish QPs (without taking out a loan) I’ll be more interested.
That is a good start but you need the proper equipment too. Can you use a glass or stainless tube and canned butane still? yes. Does it leave can oils and other contaminants that you don't want to smoke in your oil? hell yeah! Honestly, it just isn't worth doing if you don't have the closed loop, vac oven, and all other proper equipment to go with it which can be big money. I think ice wax to live rosin is a lot more realistic for home growers or small guys.

I just made some fresh frozen last week, superb flavor. I've been seriously thinking about getting a rosin press and squishing some of this stuff.
That sounds fantastic! If you are in norcal, come use my press! lol I really want to get the bags and try it myself, I am just nervous to commit crop to it given that I have no experience with the process and then get shitty results. Maybe I'll just do a small amount for a small test run with some cheap bags.
 

Chunky Stool

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Hmmm heat can definitely make the sides start to go up to dissipate heat but man it mirrors pH exactly with the whorling. I have 'burnt' mine on a T5 before long ago and they didn't whorl at all they burnt and had raised edges. It took them growing directly on to the tubes of the T5 to burn and turn to just brown dead matter. Room was air conditioned well though.

Those lowers would not yellow like iron deficiency from a T5 either pH off definitely will though (it can from over watering though why i asked). Glad they came out of it, but I would definitely pH your soil in a slurry, pH runoff as well, and make sure whatever you are using to check it is on point. The smaller plants are much more susceptible to it and can acclimate sometimes depending on genetics as they get bigger.
I had whorled leaves on one of my 'half & half' plants and it recovered without me really doing anything.
But she's a big girl. :wink:
 

Blake_n_Concentrates

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Question for some of the LED-heads, anyone have any experience with HLG300 qb’s or something equivalent?
Are COB’s the way to go? Curious if the qb’s are as awesome as the cob’s that everyone speaks of.

Not trying to strong-arm the thread, but it’s so hard to get a honest opinion whilst shuffling through the arguing/mayhem on all the other threads.
This thread is by far the best one on here....much more respectful, informative and insightful.
I love my QBs! I have some V2 and V1. I only have 975 watts (actual from wall wattage) over 40 square feet and I'm honestly amazed by the bud size and density for only 24 watts/sqft. Even the bottoms are pretty good size and dense and my canopy is stuffed. One huge advantage for me too is how cool they are. We have had a hot summer and I still haven't had to get an A/C going, as the temps are only ever a few degrees more than the outside when my exhaust fan is on full. My next move is to add far red and UV and see how crazy this shit can get.
 
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