America Is a Failed State

[growingforfun]

what about when you tried to blame obama and hillary for trump's evil policy of separating children from their parents, even for legal asylum seekers?

Yep, how horrible of me to want easier immigration paths and to make it easier to legally become citizens.
That's that's something you never quote.

Remember, my wifes family is from south America. Many of my friends are too.

The differance between you an I is that I actually care about them getting a better life and you want to maintain the status quo.

 

[Herb & Suds]

aren't you a vietnam vet too? or did i read something wrong somewhere?

Drafted in 71 but I'm not particularly proud of that whole period

 

[UncleBuck]

Yep, how horrible of me to want easier immigration paths and to make it easier to legally become citizens.
That's that's something you never quote.

Remember, my wifes family is from south America. Many of my friends are too.

The differance between you an I is that I actually care about them getting a better life and you want to maintain the status quo.

no, you literally blamed legal asylum seekers, obama, and hillary clinton for trump's evil policy of family separation at the border

that was your introduction to the politics section

and you want us to believe you're not a trumptard?

 

[Fogdog]

Clearly haven't been banned, as I'm still here criticizing you. If I was worried about that, according to your logic, I'd use one of the other hundred or so sock puppet accounts you claim I've made.

Somebody get this guy a helmet!

You are mixing me up with Herb. I didn't accuse you of having other sock accounts. I think you are badly managing the one account you have and are not capable of carrying on with different personas.

As usual you just appeal to pity rather than discuss the real reason why you are still here and doughboy is gone. Doughboy was a fake account created to spread right wing propaganda. Rolli gave him warnings and when he showed his true colors was banned. I predict he will be back in another name. I do point out that you Progressives(TM) are very susceptible to right wing propaganda that doughboy was peddling. Of course you'll deny this. But others see it quite clearly.

 

[growingforfun]

no, you literally blamed legal asylum seekers, obama, and hillary clinton for trump's evil policy of family separation at the border

that was your introduction to the politics section

and you want us to believe you're not a trumptard?

You'll never understand, or do more than troll so theres very little point. I've explained Obama didn't help these people, theres photo proof of this. That's what makes you lose your mind. Everyone deserves better. You want everything to stay the way its always been. I want progress.

 

[UncleBuck]

You'll never understand, or do more than troll so theres very little point. I've explained Obama didn't help these people, theres photo proof of this. That's what makes you lose your mind. Everyone deserves better. You want everything to stay the way its always been. I want progress.

obama united 60,000 unaccompanied minors with family here in the states, dumbass

trump decided to take legal asylum seekers, rip them apart from their crying toddlers, and throw them in separate concentration camps. you blamed obama and the asylum seekers for that.

and you really expect us to belive that you're not a trumptard?

 

[Fogdog]

Yep, how horrible of me to want easier immigration paths and to make it easier to legally become citizens.
That's that's something you never quote.

Remember, my wifes family is from south America. Many of my friends are too.

The differance between you an I is that I actually care about them getting a better life and you want to maintain the status quo.

LOL

#notracist #9
https://www.theroot.com/notracists-be-like-the-top-10-phrases-used-by-peop-1819142064

9. “I dated a black guy/girl ... ”
A few days ago I received a message from a not-racist woman who genuinely wanted to know why I used the phrase “white people” (and its more hilarious cousin, “wypipo”). I patiently replied to her (I don’t always clap back, but when I do, it’s in the mailbag), and she wrote back that she understood. She explained that she wasn’t racist because her ex-husband was black and she had half-black children. Which left me wondering:

• Who are these black men and women dating these clueless white people and leaving them as unwoke as they found them?
• You gon’ let her raise your kids, bruh? For real?
• Who told wypipo that when a black penis enters a white vagina (or vice versa), the orgasm gives them a special immunity to being a bigot?
• If so, where does it go? (The racism, not the penis, stupid.)
• Instead of the March on Washington or the Montgomery Bus Boycott, should we have just marched around the country having orgies?

That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.

 

[growingforfun]

Except its married not dated.

Been with her about 10 years, and like most south American families, with her family. Most days we spend the day together hanging out relaxing. An guess what, the old timers also want a end to illegal immigration an easier paths to legal citizenship. It makes everyone sad to see what people go through sneaking here.

Everyone except people like buck apparently, who would rather they die in the desert or are raped countless times by coyotes.

LOL

#notracist #9
https://www.theroot.com/notracists-be-like-the-top-10-phrases-used-by-peop-1819142064

9. “I dated a black guy/girl ... ”
A few days ago I received a message from a not-racist woman who genuinely wanted to know why I used the phrase “white people” (and its more hilarious cousin, “wypipo”). I patiently replied to her (I don’t always clap back, but when I do, it’s in the mailbag), and she wrote back that she understood. She explained that she wasn’t racist because her ex-husband was black and she had half-black children. Which left me wondering:

• Who are these black men and women dating these clueless white people and leaving them as unwoke as they found them?
• You gon’ let her raise your kids, bruh? For real?
• Who told wypipo that when a black penis enters a white vagina (or vice versa), the orgasm gives them a special immunity to being a bigot?
• If so, where does it go? (The racism, not the penis, stupid.)
• Instead of the March on Washington or the Montgomery Bus Boycott, should we have just marched around the country having orgies?

That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.

 

[Fogdog]

Yep, how horrible of me to want easier immigration paths and to make it easier to legally become citizens.
That's that's something you never quote.

Remember, my wifes family is from south America. Many of my friends are too.

The differance between you an I is that I actually care about them getting a better life and you want to maintain the status quo.

Hmm

Yes I mocked you in the last post for using your marriage to somehow immunize you from being racist. That's one point in your message that I can laugh at. The other is disturbing to me if true.

Your reply was to Buck's post where he said:

you tried to blame obama and hillary for trump's evil policy of separating children from their parents, even for legal asylum seekers?

Your response? "How horrible of me to want easier immigration paths and to make it easier to legally become citizens."

Are you really saying that the policy to separate children from parents seeking legal asylum at the border is justified because Trump's administration will make "easier immigration paths and to make it easier to legally become citizens."

I'm just checking to make sure that I understand what you just said..

Edit after much back and forth with "not having much fun": Yep, he in fact is supporting every last bit of Trump's immigration policies including child-parent separations for asylum seekers. He's a strange amalgam of Bernie bot and Trumper. Unhinged from reality too.

 

[Fogdog]

Except its married not dated.

Been with her about 10 years, and like most south American families, with her family. Most days we spend the day together hanging out relaxing. An guess what, the old timers also want a end to illegal immigration an easier paths to legal citizenship. It makes everyone sad to see what people go through sneaking here.

Everyone except people like buck apparently, who would rather they die in the desert or are raped countless times by coyotes.

logical fallacy.

Marrying some special woman doesn't mean you can't be racist.

 

[UncleBuck]

this is the first post he made in the politics section.

the parents broke the law, and the kids cant go to jail with them.

Litterally this exact same thing is happening every day to kids in foster "care" and nobody is screaming about that.

Maybe the dems should agree to a border wall budget, should make this happen a little less. Or maybe the conditions in mexico should be worked on, so they dont need to flee.

But no. Its like, totally popular to like, omg, blame trump.

blames legal asylum seekers for trump's evil policy, says democrats should fund the wall trump said mexico would pay for, then mocks anyone who blames trump for trump's evil family separation policy

but he's totally not a trumptard

 

[UncleBuck]

logical fallacy.

Marrying some special woman doesn't mean you can't be racist.

i remember when spandy said he couldn't be racist because he married an italian

 

[growingforfun]

Awe soon as you cant understand a topic somebody is a trumptard. Cute.

 

[Fogdog]

this is the first post he made in the politics section.



blames legal asylum seekers for trump's evil policy, says democrats should fund the wall trump said mexico would pay for, then mocks anyone who blames trump for trump's evil family separation policy

but he's totally not a trumptard

Progressives(TM) can sound a lot like Trumptards. I've seen Pad, tty and especially sky say similar things.

 

[UncleBuck]

"my wife is the granddaughter of nazis who fled to argentina, so how can i be racist?"

 

[growingforfun]

logical fallacy.

Marrying some special woman doesn't mean you can't be racist.

I guess I'm just really bad at being a rasict. Spending all day with the people I apparently hate so much. Eating all my meals with them, spending all my free time with them. Ya....

It probably woulda been better to be like you and not associate and love them from afar. Because that's totally better.

 

[Fogdog]

Awe soon as you cant understand a topic somebody is a trumptard. Cute.

Did you say that Trump's administration's policy to separate children from parents seeking asylum at the border is justified because his administration will streamline legal immigration?

 

[UncleBuck]

"democrats should fund trump's border wall and you all need to stop blaming trump for his family separation policy. how can you possibly call me a trumptard?"

 

[Fogdog]

I guess I'm just really bad at being a rasict. Spending all day with the people I apparently hard so much. Eating all my meals with them, spending all my free time with them. Ya....

It probably woulda been better to be like you and not associate and love them from afar. Because that's totally better.

logical fallacy. You can and probably are still racist.

Did you say that Trump's policy to separate children from parents seeking asylum at the border is justified because he will streamline the legal immigration process?

 

[growingforfun]

Did you say that Trump's administration's policy to separate children from parents seeking asylum at the border is justified because his administration will streamline legal immigration?

It's a lot more complicated than that.

I think we should do everything we can to slow down illegal immigration and the practice of smuggling people as if they are products and not human beings.
The worst part is the people who have to make a long hard journey and end up raped or worse along the way.

If that means a wall, fine. It's not a perfect solution but its effort.

We need to work on easier paths to citizenship and jobs, legal jobs not this under the table crap that takes advantage of people. Not the fake ssn crap where they pay tax but get no benefits.

They only good reason to separate children from legal asylum seekers at the boarder is for DNA testing to be sure the people are the parents and it's not child trafficking. This could be done in hours not days, the whole process needs overhauled from top to bottom.