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sourgummy

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Better according to who?
I'm not about to pull out tweezers and turkey basters just to take some cuttings. And I would never pull my cuttings up by the stem to check for roots. I pull up the entire plug because I don't want rip and destroy any new roots that may have begun. The tiny slit is made for the sole purpose of keeping it secure rather than opening the hole larger. I don't why anyone who's every worked with peat plugs would think a making a slit would compromise the integrity of the plug, lol.
And I don't have time or desire to make a video to explain.
If you like messing around with clones this way, cool.


Damn, LOL
not pull out tweezers, but pull out scissors? Really so hard. This is what i am talking about. That is not better, just different. But anyways, not really much to discuss here so I will not clog up the thread.

Edit: i on the other hand rock an aerocloner so I can put them in there and forget about them for 2-4 weeks if needed.
 

hillbill

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Its really fucked when growers cant even make suggestions without "right fighters" stomping their feet and showing off their bruised ego.

Tips and suggestions are just that. Nothing more.
If Heisens method works well for him, cool. But a video in no way quantifies this as "the best". There are countless cloning methods that all work very well.
Same with growing. Yet the tent growers always get targeted with insults. Which is kinda comical considering the incredible finished bud pics I've seen from those tents.

Some growers like simple
Some like to get very elaborate

I don't see the need for overinflated egos taking over a thread with toxic nonsense.

And I'm in no way "sticking up" for Hotwired.

As far as asking for free shit? Some members entire grow is built from "free" shit.
*SMFH*
Farmer Market prime time right now and it seems some of the smaller growers provide some of the very best produce and it is the same with our favorite plant. Not everyone here has any desire to grow huge amounts and most may never sell a gram. Personally, it is just about me and mine. Some may grow for just themselves.

I use two tents and they serve me well. When I get plenty ahead I stop germing seeds. If it bothers anyone that I grow in tents it don't bother me. Stuff it, I guess.
 

Tangerine_

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Farmer Market prime time right now and it seems some of the smaller growers provide some of the very best produce and it is the same with our favorite plant. Not everyone here has any desire to grow huge amounts and most may never sell a gram. Personally, it is just about me and mine. Some may grow for just themselves.

I use two tents and they serve me well. When I get plenty ahead I stop germing seeds. If it bothers anyone that I grow in tents it don't bother me. Stuff it, I guess.
The smaller veggie stands around here do very well and they all work on an honor system. Everything I've bought has been delicious...which is good because we didn't plant much at all this yr.
We still have to deal with the blueberry fields and then the cranberry bogs but after all these yrs its become redundant and not really something I consider "gardening". Mr Tang would argue different though :wink:.

Tents are awesome, convenient and extremely easy to maintain. I have a couple and love em.
Rock on
 

Coloradoclear

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Heating mats are awesome for sure. Don't always need em but when you do, great to have. I have one that heats two nursery trays, think it was like $20.
I actually float a sealed container (seeds) in another container full of water. The water is kept at 78 degrees with an aquarium heater. This keeps the seeds at a constant temperature and I use distilled water. Sounds odd, works well, especially for tough or old seeds.
 

40AmpstoFreedom

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At the END of the day....just flip the damn plug over,No need to lift to see roots..
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1,000,000 ways to skin a cat,it's still a cat
Your stem is in the plug at a 94.237 degree angle. This will not work. It is always best to have it at a 160-280 degree angle as the light rays from the light bounce at different intervals which allows all the plants stonalatarsis to divestify at a better monochronosis rate. This results in better roots.
 
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nobighurry

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Speaking of small grows, I recently acquired a homemade undercurrent hydro setup, pump, air pumps and cooler for cheap, this is my first attempt at hydro always been a organic soil guy, my question is the guy built it with 8 13gal buckets, I am thinking they maybe overkill for my needs?, thinking 5gal should be adequate, I grow trees outside, indoors I need to limit them to 4-5ft if not doing Scrog, you guys that use this kind of setup agree?
 

ahlkemist

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sounds bout right. I been getting beautiful looking plants up, even get good germ rates, and every pack has at most 3 females seems like. This is why fems and autos are popular, no wasted space or time. Thinkin of startin to try to fem one female out of every pack and see what happens, just as a small project. People mentioning the bean size, etc. I took the three smallest and palest Copper Chems and got two up lookin good and one CV LA Pure Affie and it was a small, pale bean and it come up and is startin to look good. I did it just because I was leaving the better looking beans till later. We'll see if they are something special.
This is what I do to every pack I open when I don't use all of them. :-)
 

ahlkemist

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Im aware that the majority of gps strains stretch. But had anyone experienced a somewhat similar profile of a short or shorter size growth pattern in any certain variety?? I think @hillbill has said butch Cassidy?
Really intrigued thinking about this iron horse, kosher and the NO review.
Also the coal creek kush cross.... I cannot find legit information on the coal creek not cold creek. Anything that anyone knows would severely be appreciated.
 

quiescent

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Speaking of small grows, I recently acquired a homemade undercurrent hydro setup, pump, air pumps and cooler for cheap, this is my first attempt at hydro always been a organic soil guy, my question is the guy built it with 8 13gal buckets, I am thinking they maybe overkill for my needs?, thinking 5gal should be adequate, I grow trees outside, indoors I need to limit them to 4-5ft if not doing Scrog, you guys that use this kind of setup agree?
If you can fit them all in your space, have enough lights and enough space to walk around the edge I'd keep it the way it is. Construct individual scrogs for each plant to make the system easier to maintain.

Use the fact it's hydro to your advantage, veg for a shorter time period and just fill up a screen with a couple weeks of the stretch. Genetics are gonna play a huge role in that system working efficiently. You're looking for some stretchy plants with a more open node structure. You're in luck, most gps gear is what you're after. Avoid plants like obs, hibernate or purple badlands; think more og, diesel, cookies, haze crosses, etc.
 

whytewidow

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Im aware that the majority of gps strains stretch. But had anyone experienced a somewhat similar profile of a short or shorter size growth pattern in any certain variety?? I think @hillbill has said butch Cassidy?
Really intrigued thinking about this iron horse, kosher and the NO review.
Also the coal creek kush cross.... I cannot find legit information on the coal creek not cold creek. Anything that anyone knows would severely be appreciated.
My jelly pie pheno didnt hardly stretch at all. I put her in flower at 25" tall in a 2gal ig I remember correctly. And she was under 31" at finish. But her side branching stretched. Almost clear to the top of the main. Kindve like a mainline plant. It was actually kinda nice. I didnt have to pull stuff down and tie it, or bend anything over.
 

quiescent

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Im aware that the majority of gps strains stretch. But had anyone experienced a somewhat similar profile of a short or shorter size growth pattern in any certain variety?? I think @hillbill has said butch Cassidy?
Really intrigued thinking about this iron horse, kosher and the NO review.
Also the coal creek kush cross.... I cannot find legit information on the coal creek not cold creek. Anything that anyone knows would severely be appreciated.
Doc Holiday, Sundance kid, hibernate, orange blossom special are about as low stretch as I've seen from gps. Obs stretched a fair amount but it's pretty reasonable.
 

Chunky Stool

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Doc Holiday, Sundance kid, hibernate, orange blossom special are about as low stretch as I've seen from gps. Obs stretched a fair amount but it's pretty reasonable.
Good to know!
I may run another indoor crop this fall and prefer less stretch.
Have you ran any cult classics gear?
I'm thinking about growing 'Gleemonex' this fall (CBD) and would rather not do a scrog...
 

whytewidow

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You don't even stake your clones stfu.
I dont stake my clones. Hell I dont even plant my clones most of the time lol. I throw em jn a solo.of water and they usually get forgotten and they root. I end up having to cut a bunch of roots off to get the clones apart. Like right now in my veg tent I have a solo with about 8 clones in it. 4 of them are rooted. Jus waiting till I get that boost of energy to plant them. Lol
 

Heisengrow

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Its really fucked when growers cant even make suggestions without "right fighters" stomping their feet and showing off their bruised ego.

Tips and suggestions are just that. Nothing more.
If Heisens method works well for him, cool. But a video in no way quantifies this as "the best". There are countless cloning methods that all work very well.
Same with growing. Yet the tent growers always get targeted with insults. Which is kinda comical considering the incredible finished bud pics I've seen from those tents.

Some growers like simple
Some like to get very elaborate

I don't see the need for overinflated egos taking over a thread with toxic nonsense.

And I'm in no way "sticking up" for Hotwired.

As far as asking for free shit? Some members entire grow is built from "free" shit.
*SMFH*
No offense man but you started with the pap smears comments.i was just simply saying it's easy and takes a half a second to put the tweezers in.
I noticed the tighter the plug is around the stem the faster I get roots.i also find it easier to lift the cut by the stem to check for moisture.
Moisture levels in the root riots can have a big impact on clones rooting.if it's to wet and roots begin to form the clone will look like shit cause theres not enough air to the new roots.
To dry and they stop roooting.
I dont have nothing against tent growers or people who do it different.this is just the way I do it and I was just explaining it before you and the noob hotwire made your comments.
The video was just for fun.
 
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