Do you miss obama?

do you miss obama?

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JAMO_Grow

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I would say I do not miss Obama, although his public speaking was greatly entertaining to watch.By no means do I think Trump is a perfect president either.Both have their positives and negatives, with Obama I found their was a lot of hope but not nearly enough application of his aspirations (Not to say that the republicans made it easy for him.). I miss the solidarity of his presence in America, however I think that unity that seemed so strong from a distance was never really there to being with.Under Trumps administration these problems just became more evident, whether it is due to his tweets or just general behavior that escalated these tensions.I miss the united America, even if it was just a mirage.I find the divisive nature of the USA just to much, not to blame it all on Trump (Although his own behavior as a president does not help one bit) but just to re-evaluate the public behavior, it is almost like the majority have forgotten that they live in a democracy.The public's behavior from both sides (eg. Trump supporters and Hilary supporters.) tends to be so aggressive (of course this is a generalization) towards each other to the point of hatred, for America to even start progress on a path of unification I think there need to be more mutual respect for every demographics views and more tolerance in general.

Hope this sparks further discussion and I am interested to hear what everyone else is thinking/feeling about Obama.
Happy Toking. :bigjoint:
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Or it smacks of how the laws work in your country. Do you advocate for no laws?
Describing the details of how a law works isn't the same thing as justifying why there is a particular law in place.

I advocate for the end of prohibition of substances and more freedom from government aggression for all individuals.


Obama, a hypocritical thug, believes some people have the right to forcibly prevent or limit other people concerning what they can or cannot do with their own bodies. He's a blatant prohibitionist and with his mindset he probably would have owned slaves if he had been alive in the 1800s.


 

Budley Doright

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Using just one of many scenarios, we (elected government) say the use and manufacture of ice is fine, have at it. Now we have a generation of ice heads because it’s ok to use ice. Now we have a health crisis but no money to pay for crisis due to everyone barters and no one pays taxes. Gee sounds like a lovely place to live. You really need to find a like group of people and move to a island and see how this all plays out for you. I believe Lord of the flies was mentioned lol. You will need money to buy said island, sounds like that may be your biggest hurdle lol.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I would say I do not miss Obama, although his public speaking was greatly entertaining to watch.By no means do I think Trump is a perfect president either.Both have their positives and negatives, with Obama I found their was a lot of hope but not nearly enough application of his aspirations (Not to say that the republicans made it easy for him.). I miss the solidarity of his presence in America, however I think that unity that seemed so strong from a distance was never really there to being with.Under Trumps administration these problems just became more evident, whether it is due to his tweets or just general behavior that escalated these tensions.I miss the united America, even if it was just a mirage.I find the divisive nature of the USA just to much, not to blame it all on Trump (Although his own behavior as a president does not help one bit) but just to re-evaluate the public behavior, it is almost like the majority have forgotten that they live in a democracy.The public's behavior from both sides (eg. Trump supporters and Hilary supporters.) tends to be so aggressive (of course this is a generalization) towards each other to the point of hatred, for America to even start progress on a path of unification I think there need to be more mutual respect for every demographics views and more tolerance in general.

Hope this sparks further discussion and I am interested to hear what everyone else is thinking/feeling about Obama.
Happy Toking. :bigjoint:
everyone is on edge..i'm on the road with work most days. people are quiet yet hypersensitive. bumper stickers are all gone too. god forbid if someone not of your race thinks you did them wrong in some small way like cutting in line. it's easy to see the trump-effect of divisiveness now more and more every day.

i find myself turning and walking out for whatever i came- just leave it's not worth the stress.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Using just one of many scenarios, we (elected government) say the use and manufacture of ice is fine, have at it. Now we have a generation of ice heads because it’s ok to use ice. Now we have a health crisis but no money to pay for crisis due to everyone barters and no one pays taxes. Gee sounds like a lovely place to live. You really need to find a like group of people and move to a island and see how this all plays out for you. I believe Lord of the flies was mentioned lol. You will need money to buy said island, sounds like that may be your biggest hurdle lol.
yes. that was my mention..nailed it didn't i?:wink:
 

Popeye_

Well-Known Member
The statement you made that I highlighted in red requires more back up information. There are others but your whole argument depends on this statement and that video contained nothing pertinent to it.
Can you here me know? “I’m mu Brock lesnar voice”
 

Olive Drab Green

Well-Known Member
I would say I do not miss Obama, although his public speaking was greatly entertaining to watch.By no means do I think Trump is a perfect president either.Both have their positives and negatives, with Obama I found their was a lot of hope but not nearly enough application of his aspirations (Not to say that the republicans made it easy for him.). I miss the solidarity of his presence in America, however I think that unity that seemed so strong from a distance was never really there to being with.Under Trumps administration these problems just became more evident, whether it is due to his tweets or just general behavior that escalated these tensions.I miss the united America, even if it was just a mirage.I find the divisive nature of the USA just to much, not to blame it all on Trump (Although his own behavior as a president does not help one bit) but just to re-evaluate the public behavior, it is almost like the majority have forgotten that they live in a democracy.The public's behavior from both sides (eg. Trump supporters and Hilary supporters.) tends to be so aggressive (of course this is a generalization) towards each other to the point of hatred, for America to even start progress on a path of unification I think there need to be more mutual respect for every demographics views and more tolerance in general.

Hope this sparks further discussion and I am interested to hear what everyone else is thinking/feeling about Obama.
Happy Toking. :bigjoint:
Trump is infiltrating our government on behalf of the Russians. He is connected to the Genovese Crime Family since the ‘70s. The Five Families in NYC also work with the Russian Mob. The Russian Mob is run, at the top, by Putin.

You’re seemingly deluded and detached from the fact that Russia launched a worldwide Psychological Operation and Counterintelligence Operation, interfering in elections and social environments around the world to try to seize global power as well as retaliate against the UN for sanctions over Crimea and clandestine assassinations. The whole “division” is being provoked by the Russians injecting ultranational battlecries into the National Rhetoric, as in the UK, Catalan Spain, The Philippines, and as was attempted in France, Germany, and Canada.

Obama followed through on a lot. It’s why we even have legal pot in the US today. Meanwhile, your middle of the road stance is overlooking the most important aspects of this whole situation. It just shows you aren’t paying attention to the real issue. You’re probably even a Russiabot, testing waters for the upcoming elections.
 
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Popeye_

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Two totally different things. God you're dumb.
What the hell are you trying to say?

I was wondering the same thing
It’s the purpose of mass produce from transgenic species. And knocking all the male chromes to control sex is a good thing?
Well, I guess transgenics can help for profit on massive grows. Monsanto does well with this practice on seedless products. Cannabis strains seem to have many phenos so fem help stabilize crops and that helps for mass productions
Be it human or plant you dont want to be breeding or consuming hermy's and GMO on a constant basis and we do but some find nothing wrong with that or pimping out hermy's and GMO's. to each his own imo.. Myself, I see it as a standard practice in production crops..
The breeding with Feminized plants is a difficult practice. it might be used to protects some genetics but I just dont see many reasons for Fems for myself,, can save me the cost and time of finding some males ... some say I get less hermys with Fem plants. RITE THERE Tells us we have bad genetics if we dont know. or understand. Or one might say they found the holy grail pheno plant in hermy seed, which happens IMO more often than we'd like to admit.
*important! Read carefully*
Some Hermy strains produce champs, best legs contest at Daytona Beach - won 6 years by a man, cant see the contestant from the waist up....
Fems
Cannabis has many champs from hermy stains but chemically Feminized plants , how mundane , one just like the other with weak, sickly crappy offsring and the consumption disrupts chromosome to the consumer.

I know. I'm a pussy for saying that but we've all heard the saying: we are what we eat and that might go for smoking to.
 

JAMO_Grow

Well-Known Member
Trump is infiltrating our government on behalf of the Russians. He is connected to the Genovese Crime Family since the ‘70s. The Five Families in NYC also work with the Russian Mob. The Russian Mob is run, at the top, by Putin.

You’re seemingly deluded and detached from the fact that Russia launched a worldwide Psychological Operation and Counterintelligence Operation, interfering in elections and social environments around the world to try to seize global power as well as retaliate against the UN for sanctions over Crimea and clandestine assassinations. The whole “division” is being provoked by the Russians injecting ultranational battlecries into the National Rhetoric, as in the UK, Catalan Spain, The Philippines, and as was attempted in France, Germany, and Canada.

Obama followed through on a lot. It’s why we even have legal pot in the US today. Meanwhile, your middle of the road stance is overlooking the most important aspects of this whole situation. It just shows you aren’t paying attention to the real issue. You’re probably even a Russiabot, testing waters for the upcoming elections.
My response is not middle of the road, it may seem mild in comparison to someone who is directly affected by the issues in America currently.I do not live in the USA, so I do not think/view these matter with much passion/emotion, however I do follow the news and I think the matters faced in America form a sociological and economic stand point are extremely valid in the international context.(simply because they have such an impact). I am completely aware of the Russia being involved, but I was not discussing that at all in my thoughts earlier so to state that I am deluded or detached to Russia's involvement just underlines that you did not read (Deluded is a poor word to use due to it meaning believing something that is not true and stating that I am when I haven't discussed anything about Russia. So how can I be deluded?) .Ending your thoughts based on thinking I am a "Russian bot" also furthers my point of the aggression and almost hatred for a opposing line of thought that might differ to that of your own.To Obama's involvement in the legalization of cannabis, you seem to forget that he saw that matter as a joke in his first term.Although he did support individual states to make their own decisions around the legalization of cannabis and should be given credit for that initiative.I can squabble over the details of what Obama did do and did not, but that is counter intuitive to what I said earlier because it was not my argument.

Keep it positive there is no need for personal attacks in a discussion.
 

srh88

Well-Known Member
It’s the purpose of mass produce from transgenic species. And knocking all the male chromes to control sex is a good thing?
Well, I guess transgenics can help for profit on massive grows. Monsanto does well with this practice on seedless products. Cannabis strains seem to have many phenos so fem help stabilize crops and that helps for mass productions
Be it human or plant you dont want to be breeding or consuming hermy's and GMO on a constant basis and we do but some find nothing wrong with that or pimping out hermy's and GMO's. to each his own imo.. Myself, I see it as a standard practice in production crops..
The breeding with Feminized plants is a difficult practice. it might be used to protects some genetics but I just dont see many reasons for Fems for myself,, can save me the cost and time of finding some males ... some say I get less hermys with Fem plants. RITE THERE Tells us we have bad genetics if we dont know. or understand. Or one might say they found the holy grail pheno plant in hermy seed, which happens IMO more often than we'd like to admit.
*important! Read carefully*
Some Hermy strains produce champs, best legs contest at Daytona Beach - won 6 years by a man, cant see the contestant from the waist up....
Fems
Cannabis has many champs from hermy stains but chemically Feminized plants , how mundane , one just like the other with weak, sickly crappy offsring and the consumption disrupts chromosome to the consumer.

I know. I'm a pussy for saying that but we've all heard the saying: we are what we eat and that might go for smoking to.
Female plants are just simple science.. no more. Nothing gmo about me hitting some plants with silver.
 

whitebb2727

Well-Known Member
It’s the purpose of mass produce from transgenic species. And knocking all the male chromes to control sex is a good thing?
Well, I guess transgenics can help for profit on massive grows. Monsanto does well with this practice on seedless products. Cannabis strains seem to have many phenos so fem help stabilize crops and that helps for mass productions
Be it human or plant you dont want to be breeding or consuming hermy's and GMO on a constant basis and we do but some find nothing wrong with that or pimping out hermy's and GMO's. to each his own imo.. Myself, I see it as a standard practice in production crops..
The breeding with Feminized plants is a difficult practice. it might be used to protects some genetics but I just dont see many reasons for Fems for myself,, can save me the cost and time of finding some males ... some say I get less hermys with Fem plants. RITE THERE Tells us we have bad genetics if we dont know. or understand. Or one might say they found the holy grail pheno plant in hermy seed, which happens IMO more often than we'd like to admit.
*important! Read carefully*
Some Hermy strains produce champs, best legs contest at Daytona Beach - won 6 years by a man, cant see the contestant from the waist up....
Fems
Cannabis has many champs from hermy stains but chemically Feminized plants , how mundane , one just like the other with weak, sickly crappy offsring and the consumption disrupts chromosome to the consumer.

I know. I'm a pussy for saying that but we've all heard the saying: we are what we eat and that might go for smoking to.
I'm not going to argue it anymore. Plants and animals are different. Making female cannabis seed in no way alters dna or harms the plant.
 

Olive Drab Green

Well-Known Member
My response is not middle of the road, it may seem mild in comparison to someone who is directly affected by the issues in America currently.I do not live in the USA, so I do not think/view these matter with much passion/emotion, however I do follow the news and I think the matters faced in America form a sociological and economic stand point are extremely valid in the international context.(simply because they have such an impact). I am completely aware of the Russia being involved, but I was not discussing that at all in my thoughts earlier so to state that I am deluded or detached to Russia's involvement just underlines that you did not read (Deluded is a poor word to use due to it meaning believing something that is not true and stating that I am when I haven't discussed anything about Russia. So how can I be deluded?) .Ending your thoughts based on thinking I am a "Russian bot" also furthers my point of the aggression and almost hatred for a opposing line of thought that might differ to that of your own.To Obama's involvement in the legalization of cannabis, you seem to forget that he saw that matter as a joke in his first term.Although he did support individual states to make their own decisions around the legalization of cannabis and should be given credit for that initiative.I can squabble over the details of what Obama did do and did not, but that is counter intuitive to what I said earlier because it was not my argument.

Keep it positive there is no need for personal attacks in a discussion.
It is not unreasonable aggression, you idiot. We were attacked. And now, we’re trying to undo the propaganda Russia pushed into this country.

Because you skirted around the RussiaBot comment, and because you live outside the US, I have to assume you are Russian. Not a bot, though. Probably an intelligent person with education and familiarization in the English language and Western/American culture, and nuance, from the Russian military or a contractor thereof. You are being careful about what you say, because everyone is being careful and you know that luke warm produces less stimulation than red hot. At least, until you can establish yourself in people’s heads. Fuck off.
 
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