Powder nutrients for hydro

JSB99

JSB99

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George2324 said:
I don’t know what it is about where I live but I cannot for the life of me find any products for sale.

I have a massive hydroponic greenhouse that I use for a commercial business I run supplying veg to local resteraunts and I even struggle to find suppliers. When doing a simple google search even for cannabis nutes max bottle size is like 5l in rare cases 10l.

Cannot find a simple jacks water soluble fert anywhere at all.

The raw products available only in 2lb bags and only 10lb bags for the grow and bloom from just 1 supplier.

Only 1 shop in the whole country has that maxigro and it’s only a max size of 1kg

I’ve considered looking into buying the basic salts like phosphoric acid calcium nitrate etc etc but I’m only unsure of how much to add in those situations atleast the raw product line has a dosage guideline.

Although I havnt even looked into sourcing the salts I wouldn’t be surprised if I can’t fnd them either

For the rooting fert id just buy pure NAA and and IBA mix my own solution like in dyna grow KLN slightly. Low dose nitrogen potassium with slightly higher phopshorous to encourage root growth. No idea if that’s the best or not but it’s what I intend to try out once I figure out my source of the nutes
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Amazon.com and 2-day free shipping with Prime! Almost as quick as driving to the store!
 
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George2324

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rkymtnman said:
he's in the UK.
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Yeah I found a grow shop that’s willing to sell me the raw line at wholesale prices which puts it at around 400 usd a grow.

Dutch pro is 10x cheaper though I guess that’s because it’s manufactured very close to here.

Can get it for around 4 usd a litre I’ll give the raw additives a go whilst using Dutch pro base for now I think and see how it goes
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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that's what i was going to ask:

how about a quick ryanair flight to holland and a train back to the UK with an assload of Hesi nutes? they are supposed to be top notch nutes.
 
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George2324

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rkymtnman said:
that's what i was going to ask:

how about a quick ryanair flight to holland and a train back to the UK with an assload of Hesi nutes? they are supposed to be top notch nutes.
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I’d probably be detained and questioned at customs as to why I have nutes and actually aren’t nutes classed as explosives?

I had never actually heard of hesi nutes I can actually get them here but quite expensive similar in price to dyna gro and such can buy a 50l drum of Dutch pro gro and bloom delivered free at about 4 usd a litre. The ratios of Dutch pro just confuse me massively.

Only difference that I can tell between Dutch pro grow and bloom is the bloom has more nitrogen which doesn’t make sense lol
 
Kami Samurai

Kami Samurai

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I’d just look around at your variety of products available I mean dutchmaster and canna are already up products. Some company out where you live probably produces large scale dry nutrients that aren’t cannabis specific that are used to grow fields per say so you could try and find your version (that’s what jacks is). Then see if you can find ingredients list make sure they are hydro compatible.
Then make sure your products combined hit a good ratio 3-1-4-2-2-2 for example
You can look up combining product ratios.
 
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George2324

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Kami Samurai said:
I’d just look around at your variety of products available I mean dutchmaster and canna are already up products. Some company out where you live probably produces large scale dry nutrients that aren’t cannabis specific that are used to grow fields per say so you could try and find your version (that’s what jacks is). Then see if you can find ingredients list make sure they are hydro compatible.
Then make sure your products combined hit a good ratio 3-1-4-2-2-2 for example
You can look up combining product ratios.
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I think I’ll just stick with Dutch pro for now as they are the only product I can seem to get a decent wholesale price of.
 
JSB99

JSB99

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George2324 said:
Yeah I found a grow shop that’s willing to sell me the raw line at wholesale prices which puts it at around 400 usd a grow.

Dutch pro is 10x cheaper though I guess that’s because it’s manufactured very close to here.

Can get it for around 4 usd a litre I’ll give the raw additives a go whilst using Dutch pro base for now I think and see how it goes
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I don't get this (about Amazon.com). You would think that Amazon would have set up shop in Canada, England, and some other countries.

Next you're going to tell me there are no Walmarts outside the US!

We're so spoiled here in the US LOL!
 
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George2324

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JSB99 said:
I don't get this (about Amazon.com). You would think that Amazon would have set up shop in Canada, England, and some other countries.

Next you're going to tell me there are no Walmarts outside the US!

We're so spoiled here in the US LOL!
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Errrm yeah... I think Walmart’s are only in US lol we definitely have no shop in the UK that is anything remotely like a Walmart...

When I was in Florida 2 years ago went to a Walmart and It was insane it was atleast 20x bigger than the biggest shop I’ve seen in the UK

We have amazon but I think it’s due to our stupid import rules and the fact that we don’t have any factories here making anything.

Maxigro may be made in the USA so it may cost 5 usd a kg to manufacture then 1 usd to ship to a retailer they add double markup so 12 usd a kilo

Maxigrow made in the USA 5 usd a kilo 20 usd a kilo to ship to the UK plus 20% import tax on the product plus shipping cost becomes 30 usd.

Then the retailer here adds their double markup making it 60 usd plus shipping to the consumer in some cases
 
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George2324

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Atomizer

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If you buy it by the sack, half a kilo of calcium nitrate is 36p and a kilo of MKP (mono potassium phosphate) is £2.25. You need a lot more calcium nitrate than mkp which is the most expensive of all the common agro chems. Magnesium sulphate being the cheapest at 63p a kilo.
 
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George2324

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Atomizer said:
If you buy it by the sack, half a kilo of calcium nitrate is 36p and a kilo of MKP (mono potassium phosphate) is £2.25. You need a lot more calcium nitrate than mkp which is the most expensive of all the common agro chems. Magnesium sulphate being the cheapest at 63p a kilo.
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Don’t I need more than just those 3 Chems though?

Do you have a UK supplier for all the chems u need?

Is calcium nitrate the best option would it not cause calcium toxicity from so much calcium specially since my tap water comes out at 200ppm?
 
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Atomizer

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You need a minimum of 10 different chems to make nutes from scratch, Some come in 25kg, others in 1kg. The initial outlay isnt cheap so if you dont plan on needing a lot of nutes (tens of thousands of litres) it wouldnt be worth it. Other expenses include a couple of sets of digital scales, one needs to be capable of measuring down to 0.001g.
If you make nutes from scratch you should use RO water not tap. Tapwater will add a miriad of elemental unknowns to your otherwise perfectly crafted nutrient formulation ;) You`ll also need the RO to make up your stock solutions.
 
JSB99

JSB99

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George2324 said:
Errrm yeah... I think Walmart’s are only in US lol we definitely have no shop in the UK that is anything remotely like a Walmart...

When I was in Florida 2 years ago went to a Walmart and It was insane it was atleast 20x bigger than the biggest shop I’ve seen in the UK

We have amazon but I think it’s due to our stupid import rules and the fact that we don’t have any factories here making anything.

Maxigro may be made in the USA so it may cost 5 usd a kg to manufacture then 1 usd to ship to a retailer they add double markup so 12 usd a kilo

Maxigrow made in the USA 5 usd a kilo 20 usd a kilo to ship to the UK plus 20% import tax on the product plus shipping cost becomes 30 usd.

Then the retailer here adds their double markup making it 60 usd plus shipping to the consumer in some cases
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Let's hope Trump's trade war doesn't include nutrients LOL!
 
JSB99

JSB99

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Atomizer said:
You need a minimum of 10 different chems to make nutes from scratch, Some come in 25kg, others in 1kg. The initial outlay isnt cheap so if you dont plan on needing a lot of nutes (tens of thousands of litres) it wouldnt be worth it. Other expenses include a couple of sets of digital scales, one needs to be capable of measuring down to 0.001g.
If you make nutes from scratch you should use RO water not tap. Tapwater will add a miriad of elemental unknowns to your otherwise perfectly crafted nutrient formulation ;) You`ll also need the RO to make up your stock solutions.
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Yep, after years of research, development, and testing, they got the mix just right, so you don't have to ;)
 
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