Can drooping be caused by things other than watering

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budchemist

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So after struggling past an issue of deficiency I am not 100% sure of the cause of the issue that I am seeing.

I have noticed twice that I have drooping leaves. I know that it is not overwatering as I add water (no nutes) and the drooping goes away. The question I have is whether drooping can be caused by factors other than water (ie nutrient excess)? I have been flushing weekly with plain water (to runoff) to limit salt buildup in the soil.

Medium: Coco/potting soil
pH: 6-6.5
Calcium added: yes
Nutrient PPM: 480 ppm
Watering: Blumat System - nutrient drip fed
 

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PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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budchemist said:
So after struggling past an issue of deficiency I am not 100% sure of the cause of the issue that I am seeing.

I have noticed twice that I have drooping leaves. I know that it is not overwatering as I add water (no nutes) and the drooping goes away. The question I have is whether drooping can be caused by factors other than water (ie nutrient excess)? I have been flushing weekly with plain water (to runoff) to limit salt buildup in the soil.

Medium: Coco/potting soil
pH: 6-6.5
Calcium added: yes
Nutrient PPM: 480 ppm
Watering: Blumat System - nutrient drip fed
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You got twisted newgrowth aswell, could be many things, heatstress but unlikely, looks like a nute issue and looks like she's thirsty
 
PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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budchemist said:
So after struggling past an issue of deficiency I am not 100% sure of the cause of the issue that I am seeing.

I have noticed twice that I have drooping leaves. I know that it is not overwatering as I add water (no nutes) and the drooping goes away. The question I have is whether drooping can be caused by factors other than water (ie nutrient excess)? I have been flushing weekly with plain water (to runoff) to limit salt buildup in the soil.

Medium: Coco/potting soil
pH: 6-6.5
Calcium added: yes
Nutrient PPM: 480 ppm
Watering: Blumat System - nutrient drip fed
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check under the leafs for mites too/bugs
 
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budchemist

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PURPLEB3RRYKUSH said:
You got twisted newgrowth aswell, could be many things, heatstress but unlikely, looks like a nute issue and looks like she's thirsty
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Thanks. Heat stress not likely as my temp are 21C.
Checked underneath for mites. I have empty traps for fungus gnats. By nute issue do you mean excess or deficient in nutes?
 
PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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budchemist said:
So after struggling past an issue of deficiency I am not 100% sure of the cause of the issue that I am seeing.

I have noticed twice that I have drooping leaves. I know that it is not overwatering as I add water (no nutes) and the drooping goes away. The question I have is whether drooping can be caused by factors other than water (ie nutrient excess)? I have been flushing weekly with plain water (to runoff) to limit salt buildup in the soil.

Medium: Coco/potting soil
pH: 6-6.5
Calcium added: yes
Nutrient PPM: 480 ppm
Watering: Blumat System - nutrient drip fed
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Might be boron deficient, needs calcium aswell, boron, calcium work together
 
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SmileyBizz

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budchemist said:
So after struggling past an issue of deficiency I am not 100% sure of the cause of the issue that I am seeing.

I have noticed twice that I have drooping leaves. I know that it is not overwatering as I add water (no nutes) and the drooping goes away. The question I have is whether drooping can be caused by factors other than water (ie nutrient excess)? I have been flushing weekly with plain water (to runoff) to limit salt buildup in the soil.

Medium: Coco/potting soil
pH: 6-6.5
Calcium added: yes
Nutrient PPM: 480 ppm
Watering: Blumat System - nutrient drip fed
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Ur under watering ur plants dude, same thing almost happens when u underfeed and overfeed the plants. just feed more frequently (note i let my plants get dry where they are drooping quite a lot then feed, they drink it up better instead of it all flushing out the bottom.
stay high!
 
CFL MAGIC

CFL MAGIC

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See that "claw" look to ur leaves... Google it n research....that's nutrients n too much of em...not a water issue
 
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SmileyBizz

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CFL MAGIC said:
Nutrition issue....they hatin life right now...stop feedin
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it could be but his ppm is low.
why would you think his adding too much nuts as you can see hoe low ppm is? it could maybe his giving it a very light freed but i think its under watering as this has happened to me because i like to water when they are very very thirsty as i have noticed it works best
 
CFL MAGIC

CFL MAGIC

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SmileyBizz said:
it could be but his ppm is low.
why would you think his adding too much nuts as you can see hoe low ppm is? it could maybe his giving it a very light freed but i think its under watering as this has happened to me because i like to water when they are very very thirsty as i have noticed it works best
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Experience...I've seen underwatered plants n ive seen heat stressed plants n I've seen plants in hot soil...these look like the later to me
 
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budchemist

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CFL MAGIC said:
Under fed plants yellow n have other leaf probs they don't sag or claw
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Thanks for the advice (all round). She was definitely thirsty so tho watering solved most of the problem.

I decided to take a shot and go with stop feeding. It has the least potential to harm the plants. So I gave the plants a good water and switched my blumat reservoir to straight water with the exception of Cal-Mag. I will add some Borax (as soon as I get from Amazon).

Part of my issue was the soil choice. Never again will I mix soil and Coco.
 
PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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budchemist said:
So after struggling past an issue of deficiency I am not 100% sure of the cause of the issue that I am seeing.

I have noticed twice that I have drooping leaves. I know that it is not overwatering as I add water (no nutes) and the drooping goes away. The question I have is whether drooping can be caused by factors other than water (ie nutrient excess)? I have been flushing weekly with plain water (to runoff) to limit salt buildup in the soil.

Medium: Coco/potting soil
pH: 6-6.5
Calcium added: yes
Nutrient PPM: 480 ppm
Watering: Blumat System - nutrient drip fed
Click to expand...
Drop yah ph down a tad, 5.8 to 6.0 is perfect, watering at 6.5 your starting to lock nutes out
 
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