Useful Seeds
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Useful Seeds
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Strange things happening with my posts.
Frank Nitty
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Like what?
Useful Seeds
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Well I posted a couple of things...or thought I did, I live so far out in the sticks, I am stuck with satellite internet that is horrible,I get 1/4gig allowance a day,I will blame my issues on that...lol
Frank Nitty
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Like i said before, modern technology is not what its cracked up to be...
Useful Seeds
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You got that right!!! I reckon I should not complain, living in the sticks can't be beat.
Frank Nitty
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Tell me about it!!! I just wish I had more privacy...
SmokeAL0t
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http://www.dragonflyearthmedicine.com/ DEM Homepage
As for the potcasts- there's a gentleman from Australia that does a decent job interviewing and I listen to his shows regularly. In addition to Bodhi and Dragonfly Earth, he's amassed a nice list of shows, including Subcool (formerly of TGA), BOG, Duke Diamond, Bob Hemphill, Madd Farmer, Skunk VA, etc. etc. He's also interviewed some of the Build-A-Soil crew, seed vendors, etc.
For the time being, you won't find better canna entertainment (on the web).
His channel: https://soundcloud.com/user-928350579-16614181
Also - someone mentioned selecting fathers and traits to look for.... If you'll study more, you'll find that many breeders select different traits. Some (Subcool, for example) believe that males (typically) pass down certain traits and females pass down others (ie the male passes down structure and the female passes potency, etc.).... Through the massive lists of interviews that're available these days, you can learn what many of the top breeders look for these days and several of them mention the books/authors/mentors they learned from.
.... on a side note, I'd suggest taking notes, if you're serious, while listening to these clips.
Moving on - Josh and Kelly are a married couple from Canada that own Dragonfly Earth Medicine and their interview is episode 25 on the link above and the direct link is:
https://soundcloud.com/user-928350579-16614181/josh-kelly-of-dragonfly-earth-medicine
A little more about their story and SUPER PASSIONATE HEARTS can be heard here:
They encourage (and educate) others to create your own plant foods and soils from resources native to your area. They do sell a few products on their website but their goal is to educate others rather than sell them nutrients. If you have the better part of a day to research/stalk 'em, I highly suggest it. I've only ever listened to the Dunn show with Bodhi and Josh/Kelly because I kinda geeked out on learning from them when I found 'em.
I can't recommend these guys enough and anyone who listens to their interviews might stumble onto certain plants/teas/etc. that can fix your soils with PURE practices.
=]
Blessings!
As for the potcasts- there's a gentleman from Australia that does a decent job interviewing and I listen to his shows regularly. In addition to Bodhi and Dragonfly Earth, he's amassed a nice list of shows, including Subcool (formerly of TGA), BOG, Duke Diamond, Bob Hemphill, Madd Farmer, Skunk VA, etc. etc. He's also interviewed some of the Build-A-Soil crew, seed vendors, etc.
For the time being, you won't find better canna entertainment (on the web).
His channel: https://soundcloud.com/user-928350579-16614181
Also - someone mentioned selecting fathers and traits to look for.... If you'll study more, you'll find that many breeders select different traits. Some (Subcool, for example) believe that males (typically) pass down certain traits and females pass down others (ie the male passes down structure and the female passes potency, etc.).... Through the massive lists of interviews that're available these days, you can learn what many of the top breeders look for these days and several of them mention the books/authors/mentors they learned from.
.... on a side note, I'd suggest taking notes, if you're serious, while listening to these clips.
Moving on - Josh and Kelly are a married couple from Canada that own Dragonfly Earth Medicine and their interview is episode 25 on the link above and the direct link is:
https://soundcloud.com/user-928350579-16614181/josh-kelly-of-dragonfly-earth-medicine
A little more about their story and SUPER PASSIONATE HEARTS can be heard here:
They encourage (and educate) others to create your own plant foods and soils from resources native to your area. They do sell a few products on their website but their goal is to educate others rather than sell them nutrients. If you have the better part of a day to research/stalk 'em, I highly suggest it. I've only ever listened to the Dunn show with Bodhi and Josh/Kelly because I kinda geeked out on learning from them when I found 'em.
I can't recommend these guys enough and anyone who listens to their interviews might stumble onto certain plants/teas/etc. that can fix your soils with PURE practices.
=]
Blessings!
Useful Seeds
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Thanks a bunch for posting that!! I wish I could watch the potcasts.
SmokeAL0t
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You bet, man. Josh and Kelly are on my very short list of remaining people to meet in the industry.
To keep my ramblings short, ORGANIC doesn't mean what it used to... and maybe never did. DEM has developed its own Pure certification that truly encompasses what many of us believe in (when the think "organically") and I believe they're the first real reason to get excited (industry-wide/globally) in the canna industry in a long time... Through learning of their living soils, I've realized that very few gardeners see true expressions from their genes (cuts or beans) and that a true living soil, in addition to the health benefits, is far superior to most any other style of farming... closed loop farming in the truest form.
To keep my ramblings short, ORGANIC doesn't mean what it used to... and maybe never did. DEM has developed its own Pure certification that truly encompasses what many of us believe in (when the think "organically") and I believe they're the first real reason to get excited (industry-wide/globally) in the canna industry in a long time... Through learning of their living soils, I've realized that very few gardeners see true expressions from their genes (cuts or beans) and that a true living soil, in addition to the health benefits, is far superior to most any other style of farming... closed loop farming in the truest form.
Ziggyman22
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Hey useful! When’s the sale start I’m definitely in on grabbing something something x gorilla glue for sure! Please lmk a link would be great! Thanks man appreciate your time
Useful Seeds
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I shipped them yesterday, so it should start sometime next week. Great Lakes Genetics will have them. Thank you for the support.
MustangStudFarm
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The thing that I am really stuck on is my compost always comes back really high in phosphorus and low in trace minerals like Mn and Zn. This batch was Mn and B, but it is always low in one or more. P is 15x too high, is it locking out the micros? This is a solubility test, much like a saturated paste test.
Different batch of soil and a different soil test(Mehlich 3), very similar results. It's hard to read a Mehlich 3 test, but after getting a solubility test I was able to see that micros are most likely getting locked out by excessive P. The Mehlich 3 test doesn't show it nutrient lockout like the Soil Savvy test above.
I've tried my hardest to work with compost, but these P #'s are too excessive. Maybe I misdiagnosed my problem, but every soil test that had compost was usually 10-15x too high in P. It would be different if everything was in the same ratio... I'm looking at growing companion plants like comfrey and nettle for the trace elements.
I stopped using so much rabbit bedding in my worm bin and compost. I made 3 different piles last Oct/Nov when the leaves were falling from the trees. I used a lawnmower with a bagger and I filled the stall with it and a little rabbit bedding. Then, a separate pile for pure leaves and one for rabbit bedding. I recently added lawn clippings to speed up the leaves in the worm bin.
These leaves are going pretty slow. I expected it from the pure leaf compost, but it seems like manure helped speed things up. I have been using less manure though...
I feel like I am getting off track with this soil talk in a seed thread. I am talking about it because I did listen to one of Dragonfly's seminars and one of the first things that they talk about with soil health is phosphoric acid. Isn't that the same as high/excessive phosphorus, organic or not? H3PO4... If you look at the soil Ph on the tests, they are always low. I think below 6 and it starts killing microbes, I was at 5.8 most of the time.
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Spondylo Grow
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Agreed.
Useful Seeds
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You are welcome to post whatever you like in this thread. You have supported Useful Seeds in a big way!! I wish I could be of more help with your soil issues.
Useful Seeds
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All is well man, @MustangStudFarm is a cool cat ,he has supported Useful Seeds in a big way.
Jp.the.pope
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I'm enjoying it and the pot casts
quiescent
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I wouldn't worry about the excess phosphorus too much if the plants you're growing are happy. Are you experiencing problems in mid to late flower? Have you had a decline in quality or is it lacking from your expectations? I've chased my tail on soil tests before to no avail. I had plenty good product and healthy plants to start with, was just trying to "perfect" the mix.
Assuming you're reusing your soil in one form or another and not opposed to using animal meals, just avoid using bone meal and substitute seabird guano or even better, crab meal in it's place as a high Ca amendment. Are your piles getting fed any dry ferts and mineral dusts or is this straight compost? Do they get rained on regularly or do you have to wet them down?
I think you're totally on the right track with using some more mineral accumulating plants. Do you currently use azomite in your compost/soil mix? That could also help you out with your B and Mn issue assuming they're not actually being locked out by the high P.
The pH might be a tad low and could be harmful to some of the microbes but it could also be thinning out just enough of a couple varieties to let some more desirable/diverse microbe balance set in. The plant ultimately alters medium pH once it's in living soil so as long as you're very close I think it's no big thing. Could also be better than what they recommend, only way to really tell is a microscope and someone who knows what they're looking at.
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MustangStudFarm
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I'll admit that I didn't understand the importance of micro nutrients until a couple of months ago, been growing for 8yrs. So, I really don't know if I am experiencing a lack of micros or lockout from P. My old soil test suggest that I was lacking Mn in almost every test. I started to use rock dust like basalt and glacial rock dust, but they might take too long to break down. I heard that Azomite has aluminum in it, but I don't think that it should keep me from using it. However, plants like comfrey, nettle, and borage will not carry heavy metals and replace the kelp that I have been buying.
I was stuck on the high P and I assumed that was my biggest problems, I could be wrong. I kept reading about a plant with high N/P will keep the roots from producing exudes and that will keep the myco fungi from growing also... I want to say that you are right about the P though because my last harvest was one of my worst and the soil test shown that P was not excessive, the micros were low. Talk about a shitty harvest though!!! I'll post some horror pics, it looks worse than a micro def huh. Anyways, I hope everyone is bearing with me. I'm happy with the answer that I got, so I'll leave it alone. I shouldn't be so scared of Azomite and start growing comfrey ect.
THE WORST HARVEST SINCE SWITCHING TO ORGANIC- I don't get it, I used an ass load of kelp and the only thing showing from it is Na???
3 stages of growth:
I'm embarrassed of these pics, but I hope that someone picked something up from this. Micro def looks a lot like N def because it causes chlorosis(fade). I hit a low point and decided to donate my hard to find packs of Bodhi seeds. I don't want people to think that I feel entitled to any special treatment though. I'll stop clogging this thread with soil banter. I think that I am G-T-G!
MustangStudFarm
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I don't want to feel entitled either... The peeps over in the organic section are tired of me, they can't answer my questions... @quiescent made more sense than a lot of guys over there! Sounds like he has had his soil tested a few times also, I've been the point of ridicule in the organic section because of soil testing!