Fixing root rot: Hydroguard v Southern Ag Garden Friendly Fungicide

dongle69

dongle69

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Quite a circle jerk going on here, fellas! :bigjoint:
Did you know Dr Pepper will make your cucumbers hard? (or you can use your favorite generic brand :D).user2563_pic34331_1266460491.jpg
 
Jypsy Dog

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Time to hit the TRUSTY............. IGNOR BUTTON!
Thanks for the story time, but your just too flakey and full of shit. C-YA.
 
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daadank

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kingtitan said:
OK so this may have been a bad idea. I had a nice sterile rez and i added that 3ml and within 10 hours everything went downhill. Water smelled like dirty aquarium, brown slime everywhere. I hit my 60 gallon rez with h2o2 for 5 hours and then drained and cleaned best I could spraying with 6% h2o2 and then scrubbing what I could, obviously pipes couldnt be and there was some remaining water in the pipes. I refilled with fresh solution and added a small concentration of h2o2. 4 days later and I seeing clear/light brown buildup at the pipe in/outs and roots.

I have noticed plants droopy and slowed/stunted growth this week. prior to adding this stuff they were accelerating.

Not sure what to do? There was probably left over bacteria from the 3ml/60 gal but at a very dilute amount. Is this slime the good stuff from AG and i should not try to sterilize and stunt more growth?
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What happen? Are you saying the ag caused your system to crash? I just ordered some...
 
GBAUTO

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daadank said:
What happen? Are you saying the ag caused your system to crash? I just ordered some...
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I switched over last run and I've has zero issues when diluting the GFF with water 20:1
I gave my friend a 250ml bottle of the diluted GFF(enough for her to run an entire cycle) and she then proceeded to add about 4x the rec. amount. Ran into the same issues as titan. My guess is that it will overwhelm the solution and then drown the roots, dunno...
Like I said, if you dilute and then add 2ml/gal it will work fine...
 
2.Cor4.16

2.Cor4.16

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Southern Ag definetly works, I find it works better in veg though and can cause almost thick strands of roots in flower but it didn’t seem to affect yield or potency (no root rot issue either, appeared to be a cosmetic issue). Comparable Hydroguard I find is more stable and easier to use. Southern Ag is a cheaper alt in the case of the 2 and can be used all the way up to harvest without an issue. The best product I’ve used for Root Zone and the only thing I use now is Heisenberg Tea ( 1/2 scoop Great White Shark, 30ml Hydroguard, 1 large handful ancient forest placed into a sock and tied off, and 1 tablespoon blackstrap molasses. All added to 2 gal de-chlorinated water and aeroratet for 48 hours) Added at 1 cup a gallon. There are only a few species of bacteria that can actually colonize the root zone of cannabis especially in Hydroponics. Your goal is to establish a hold by one of these species who names are away from me at the moment rhizo bacteria I want to say as well as another species. With Heisenberg tea you are growing/multiplying spores and bacteria which allows your product to extend its life a great deal. Rollitup has the best reference page to Heisenberg tea I’ve found although it has been a while. The author and all credit goes to our man Heisenberg as well.
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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Cold$moke said:
Ill be testing it for myself soon as my hydro gaurd is almost gone
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Brother @Cold$moke , did you ever try the Southern Ag product?

I would just add two more contenders to this thread that I have used and both are solid products.
If you want Clear Solution use the Orc, Companion has some Molasses color to it and stinks like soy amino's


https://www.grownovagreen.com/shopping/product_details_companion_liquid_biological_fungicide.asp?ProductNum=90259




https://www.plant-success.com/product/orca/
 
Cold$moke

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OneHitDone said:
Brother @Cold$moke , did you ever try the Southern Ag product?

I would just add two more contenders to this thread that I have used and both are solid products.
If you want Clear Solution use the Orc, Companion has some Molasses color to it and stinks like soy amino's


https://www.grownovagreen.com/shopping/product_details_companion_liquid_biological_fungicide.asp?ProductNum=90259




https://www.plant-success.com/product/orca/
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Not yet bud

My work schedule has pushed my room back a bit haha

I never did get anymore ag hopefully i wont need it


Thanks for the heads up
 
GBAUTO

GBAUTO

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Sounds right. 189ml of GFF added to enough water to make 1 gal will give you a 20:1 ratio. I then add the diluted mix @ 2ml/gal to my rez.
 
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pdasterly

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took 2.5 gallon empty hydroguard jug and filled with seachem prime treated water, added whole bottle of GFF(16oz size).
cost me $13 plus a empty hydroguard jug. hope this works cause i paid 100 for the HG
 
Jypsy Dog

Jypsy Dog

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pdasterly said:
took 2.5 gallon empty hydroguard jug and filled with seachem prime treated water, added whole bottle of GFF(16oz size).
cost me $13 plus a empty hydroguard jug. hope this works cause i paid 100 for the HG
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You just wasted the bottle of GFF. The bacteria are held in suspension until needed. They "Live" in a broth of food. Sorry Dude.
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/suspension+culture
https://www.researchgate.net/post/How_long_can_bacteria_non_spore_former_survive_in_a_liquid_medium_when_stored_at_room_temperature
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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depends, if you keep feeding them a little (i'd use non-sulphured molasses, or unrefined turbinado sugar.) you can probably keep them alive till you use it up, but next time, leave them in the original bottle and use as needed.
 
Jypsy Dog

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projectinfo

projectinfo

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Just bought some s. Ag.

Anyone bother making tea out of it to replace the hydroguard in hiesenburg tea?

This shit is so concentrated it probably doesnt matter if ya brew or not eh ?

I was going to bubble some great white and s, ag. Might try a some in a bubble bucket to see the effect .

Anyone figure out the foliar feed amount for s. Ag. Or great white to keep down blight and fungus/disease. ?
 
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