Using synthetic nutes with organic

Sirdankz

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I've been using worm castings/bone meal/ kelp meal/ and bat guano + calmag plus for feeding my girls in coco coir. I just started feeding them compost tea made from the ingredients listed above but have been feeding them before still just mix in water no aerator. I just ordered flora grow nutes can I use these nutes along with organics? And this is my first grow is the current ingredients I have for organics enough nutes to grow my girls?
 

Richard Drysift

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I wouldn't use synthetic nutes with organic soil but if you are growing in coco then you'll definitely need nutrients. Compost teas supply and increase activity of microbial populations but salt based nutrients will kill them. Go with one or the other; don't try to mix the two.
In your other thread you say you've got soil to recycle. I would simply amend and recycle the soil you have and give them clean water. Add in your kelp & bone meal, guano, and EWC. Let it set for 30 days and reuse. Save your nutes in case your mix falls off. Once you start giving nutrients though there's really no going back. Hard to say if what you have added into the soil will sustain them the entire grow cycle. Learn about recycling and amending soil or just use nutes; it's just a matter of preference really but choose one path and try to stay on it....and get an airstone to bubble your teas!!!
 

Aladdin.khalifa

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I've been using worm castings/bone meal/ kelp meal/ and bat guano + calmag plus for feeding my girls in coco coir. I just started feeding them compost tea made from the ingredients listed above but have been feeding them before still just mix in water no aerator. I just ordered flora grow nutes can I use these nutes along with organics? And this is my first grow is the current ingredients I have for organics enough nutes to grow my girls?
Compost tea isn't meant to feed your plants, its purpose is to spur the growth of beneficial bacterias that will in turn help break down your organic matter making it available to the plant.

I personally wouldn't mix organic fertilizer with organic ferts. Organic fertilizer can be pretty powerful on their own. Synthetic ferts may be bad for the soil life.

Because they don't work the same way, I recommend sticking to organic feeding since that is what you started with.
 

Sirdankz

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Compost tea isn't meant to feed your plants, its purpose is to spur the growth of beneficial bacterias that will in turn help break down your organic matter making it available to the plant.

I personally wouldn't mix organic fertilizer with organic ferts. Organic fertilizer can be pretty powerful on their own. Synthetic ferts may be bad for the soil life.

Because they don't work the same way, I recommend sticking to organic feeding since that is what you started with.
Answered what I was asking. How should I feed my plants?
 

xtsho

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You might run into nutrient issues midway through flower with your current line up for feeding. It depends on your teas. But I would treat coco like hydro and use chemical salts.

You can feed synthetic nutes in coco. Calcium nitrate, monopotassium phosphate, trace elements, magnesium sulphate, and call it good. potassium sulphate weeks 4-6 in flower .
 

Sirdankz

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You might run into nutrient issues midway through flower with your current line up for feeding. It depends on your teas. But I would treat coco like hydro and use chemical salts.

You can feed synthetic nutes in coco. Calcium nitrate, monopotassium phosphate, trace elements, magnesium sulphate, and call it good. potassium sulphate weeks 4-6 in flower .
I have flora grow coming in this Saturday. Should I start using flora grow nutrients for my grow?
 

hillbill

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That “compost” tea is made from “ingredients above” (guano, bone meal, castings, Kelp and calmag) is a feeding tea. Top dress and water through and be done with chemicals. At best they will render your mix useless for recycling organic growing media.
 

xtsho

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I have flora grow coming in this Saturday. Should I start using flora grow nutrients for my grow?
If you're growing in coco you're best off treating it like hydro and using hydro nutrients/chemical salts. But if you're having good results so far it's hard to tell you to change. The issues will show up mid flower. I hope you prove me wrong. Good luck. Post some pics of the final product. I would like to see some organic coco grown weed.
 

Sirdankz

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If you're growing in coco you're best off treating it like hydro and using hydro nutrients/chemical salts. But if you're having good results so far it's hard to tell you to change. The issues will show up mid flower. I hope you prove me wrong. Good luck. Post some pics of the final product. I would like to see some organic coco grown weed.
 

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Sirdankz

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That “compost” tea is made from “ingredients above” (guano, bone meal, castings, Kelp and calmag) is a feeding tea. Top dress and water through and be done with chemicals. At best they will render your mix useless for recycling organic growing media.
So I should just start using my salt based nutes now instead of the feeding tea?
 

Sirdankz

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I wouldn't use synthetic nutes with organic soil but if you are growing in coco then you'll definitely need nutrients. Compost teas supply and increase activity of microbial populations but salt based nutrients will kill them. Go with one or the other; don't try to mix the two.
In your other thread you say you've got soil to recycle. I would simply amend and recycle the soil you have and give them clean water. Add in your kelp & bone meal, guano, and EWC. Let it set for 30 days and reuse. Save your nutes in case your mix falls off. Once you start giving nutrients though there's really no going back. Hard to say if what you have added into the soil will sustain them the entire grow cycle. Learn about recycling and amending soil or just use nutes; it's just a matter of preference really but choose one path and try to stay on it....and get an airstone to bubble your teas!!!
How much should I add if each?
 

JayBio420

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My mother always taught me that compost teas do many things. They can inoculate a substrate with beneficial bacteria, fungi and other microbes (the break down organics to plant available nutes). They also feed the plant directly, through water soluable broken down nutes, as well as feeding the current and future population of microbes.


I’ve used synthetic nutrients in a peat/coco/perlite soil that was amended with organic nutrients. I may or may not have “ideal” levels of microbes, but since I also use tea, there is always more being added. It’s definately working.
 
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