Budrot starting, suggestions?

[fantasyNugs93]

Hey guys, ive got some plants outside right now, theyre all covered except for one because it was too tall to get a cover made like other others quickly so its my last one left to cover.

Ive been quite busy this week, and had enough time to just go out and check them yesterday morning, and noticed some bud rot starting in a single spot on the uncovered one. i removed that cola and brought it in and trimmed the small bit of bud rot that was starting out. and started drying it.

I got a chance to go check right now, and noticed that now there were atleast 3 other spots that had bud rot tonight starting.

Its been rainy and cold recently, which is why i covered the other ones.

Just wondering if you guys think i should harvest it now, or if i should cut the bud rot out, where i can find it and get a cover built and it dry ASAP.

Ill get some pictures here shorly as i go back out to remove the parts i noticed the rot starting.
thanks for any suggestions before i get back in - and ill have pictures when i get back. Thanks guys.

 

[too larry]

Spray H2O2 on the rotten buds before you clip them from the plant. {remove all rot from patch} Make sure you take a couple of buds above and below the bad spot. I would wash those in a H2O2/H2O bath as well. Spin them dry in a salad spinner, then dry as you normally would and they will be as good as new.

It's a tossup on early harvest. I've gambled and lost more times than I have gambled and won. Here is my Poly Shunk 1.5 from Thursday morning. This is one of the losses.

 

[fantasyNugs93]

Mine hasnt gotten this advanced yet.
Im only losing about 1g on each bud that has it once i trim it out.

ive snipped what i could off of the one that had a bunch. but its still not covered.

 

[fantasyNugs93]

Spray H2O2 on the rotten buds before you clip them from the plant. {remove all rot from patch} Make sure you take a couple of buds above and below the bad spot. I would wash those in a H2O2/H2O bath as well. Spin them dry in a salad spinner, then dry as you normally would and they will be as good as new.
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Because there isint too much i was considering trimming out the parts that have rot and just water curing those parts then just using them for bubble hash. and then drying the other parts of the buds normally.

Should i spray the other parts i dry normally with H2O2 to prevent further growth over the next few days on the ones i plan to smoke?

H2O2 is fine on freshly cut buds to smoke after dried/cured?

It's a tossup on early harvest. I've gambled and lost more times than I have gambled and won. Here is my Poly Shunk 1.5 from Thursday morning. This is one of the losses.

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Ive cut all the buds with bud rot and theyre just done now. im trimming them normally and cutting out the parts with rot as we speak. then was going to dry the parts that were unaffected normaly. and water cure any parts with rot.
What im wondering is if i should cut the rest of the plant thats still out in the rain i guess before it develops more rot and begin its drying porcess now?
Ive got some of it inside, ill upload a better pic of one of the tops and a microscope pic of its tricomes too. ust give me 20 mins or so.

 

[TheUrbanFarmer]

Good advice with the peroxide. I would cut the bud rot then spray with h202 tho just me.

If I ever get bud rot I like to use a ozonator in the room to kill off all the extra mold spores.

After spraying with h202 it’s def fine to smoke prob the safest thing you could spray on your plants. Love hydrogen peroxide.

 

[too larry]

Because there isint too much i was considering trimming out the parts that have rot and just water curing those parts then just using them for bubble hash. and then drying the other parts of the buds normally.

Should i spray the other parts i dry normally with H2O2 to prevent further growth over the next few days on the ones i plan to smoke?

H2O2 is fine on freshly cut buds to smoke after dried/cured?



Ive cut all the buds with bud rot and theyre just done now. im trimming them normally and cutting out the parts with rot as we speak. then was going to dry the parts that were unaffected normaly. and water cure any parts with rot.
What im wondering is if i should cut the rest of the plant thats still out in the rain i guess before it develops more rot and begin its drying porcess now?
Ive got some of it inside, ill upload a better pic of one of the tops and a microscope pic of its tricomes too. ust give me 20 mins or so.

If there is any rot on the plant, I wash all the bud. Just to be on the safe side. I use about 1/4 - 1/2 cup of H2O2 in a gallon of water. Then rinse in clean water. Just a few swishes will do it.

I wouldn't spray anything but the area with the bad spots.

Cutting the plant is up to you. They can meltdown in a hurry. How much loss can you handle without pain? I've got so much early pot this year I will be up to my ears in oil. {I'm already up to my ears in oil from the last two season's leftovers anyway} That is why I could take my chances. If it was my only plant, I would have chopped last week.

 

[fantasyNugs93]

Good advice with the peroxide. I would cut the bud rot then spray with h202 tho just me.

If I ever get bud rot I like to use a ozonator in the room to kill off all the extra mold spores.

After spraying with h202 it’s def fine to smoke prob the safest thing you could spray on your plants. Love hydrogen peroxide.

They're outdoor plants, so i cant control the environment as much as i like until this winter when i start my first indoor!

And okay thats great to know! thanks.

If there is any rot on the plant, I wash all the bud. Just to be on the safe side. I use about 1/4 - 1/2 cup of H2O2 in a gallon of water. Then rinse in clean water. Just a few swishes will do it.

I wouldn't spray anything but the area with the bad spots.

Cutting the plant is up to you. They can meltdown in a hurry. How much loss can you handle without pain? I've got so much early pot this year I will be up to my ears in oil. {I'm already up to my ears in oil from the last two season's leftovers anyway} That is why I could take my chances. If it was my only plant, I would have chopped last week.

okay, that pic is all of what i had to cut out from bud rot, its probally about 30% of the uncovered plant. and all the other plants im probally getting high 80%-100% of because theyre covered from the rain now atleast.
so im not too worried. but the uncovered one is also showing signs of finishing. so just wondering i guess. idk ahah.
The tricome pic os from a clean part of the uncovered plant that had most of the bud rot. and id say its about 75% of the haird dead and curls. maybe a bit more. and a strong kush odor, although its been present for a while now.

 

[too larry]

You need to keep a sharp lookout, even for the ones under cover. The cover is great for keeping rain off, but it can also trap moisture under it.

It's hard deciding what to do. I have an old 1980's sativa leaning strain that never had problems. I'm going to cross all my heavy budded strains with it to see if I can get some rot resistance.

 

[TheUrbanFarmer]

They're outdoor plants, so i cant control the environment as much as i like until this winter when i start my first indoor!

And okay thats great to know! thanks.








okay, that pic is all of what i had to cut out from bud rot, its probally about 30% of the uncovered plant. and all the other plants im probally getting high 80%-100% of because theyre covered from the rain now atleast.
so im not too worried. but the uncovered one is also showing signs of finishing. so just wondering i guess. idk ahah.
The tricome pic os from a clean part of the uncovered plant that had most of the bud rot. and id say its about 75% of the haird dead and curls. maybe a bit more. and a strong kush odor, although its been present for a while now.

I’m starting to see some clouding in those tricomes def keep a close eye and if you see anything harvest them the smoke will be great still.

Nice job catching it early. A lot of people will wait to see what happens and it always gets worse. Nice!

 

[fantasyNugs93]

You need to keep a sharp lookout, even for the ones under cover. The cover is great for keeping rain off, but it can also trap moisture under it.

Thats actually what happend with my first appeareance, the first night we were supposed to get a heavy rain i threw up a quick cover on most of them and a couple were too close and herdened off a few tops. and one didnt let enough air by and i got a bit of bud rot starting in it. i cut it right away and dealt with it,

but ive since built actual proper structures with 6" clear poly pulled tight around and an angled roof. the poly only goes 15" down the sides and they're about 36-48 inches long. so theres lots of room at the bottom to let the wind blow through fairly nicely.
I had been watching them multiple times a day, but ive been working alot since wednesday and havent had as much time from tuesday night on.

It's hard deciding what to do. I have an old 1980's sativa leaning strain that never had problems. I'm going to cross all my heavy budded strains with it to see if I can get some rot resistance.

Yeah that would be nice to get, but im going to beed some more experience and seasons first !
i do have some nice traits i would like to try my hand at crossing. and i also secluded 2 males and collected a few grams of their pollen, dried and froze it with a bit of rice to save it until i can pollinate some. i unfourtnatly only got males from the one strain i was really looking forward too. so thats what i did. and now ill try my hand at crossing it with some of the others that had nice traits to get those traits, with its taste hopefully on a few of the new pheos, and see where that takes me haha.

 

[fantasyNugs93]

I’m starting to see some clouding in those tricomes def keep a close eye and if you see anything harvest them the smoke will be great still.

Nice job catching it early. A lot of people will wait to see what happens and it always gets worse. Nice!

Thanks, There kinda my babies, so im upset i didnt get this last one covered, it was just harder to figure out what to do for it i guess and work suddenly popped up. along with the rain and cold lol....

im having a hard time differentiating because ive only got a cheap us microscope for now. im going to order a loupe this weekend. but, i cant tell if im seeing white starting, or seeing the reflection of the 8 LED lights on the microscope.

Ive been trying to judge based more on overall look & feel, hairs, and tricomes, and calyx's thatve swolen up instead of honing in on just one. and that plant and another are definatly my closest.
75% of the hairs on it seem to be curled. and i also took a sample branch from the other one thats close, and i trimmed it first. no rot in it seems to have a very early flowering start( i swear it had pre flowers in june) and is just finishing about now. about 50% of its fan leaves turned yellow over the last 3 days. ( but its been really cold too. 5C at night i think is our lowest. felt like 3C. so im getting alot of purpling coming out aswell.

 

[TheUrbanFarmer]

Sweet keep up the good work best of luck with the harvest!

 

[fantasyNugs93]

Thanks! hoping I haven't bitten off more than i can chew.... aha

 

[fantasyNugs93]

Hey guys, I have all the parts with bud rot trimmed now. Ive seperated anything that had any rot in it into a mason jar, and have all the rest that was salvageable just on a screen for now because i have to run.
just want to make sure before i fill this jar with water that water curing the stuff with bud rot and then using it in bubble hash is an okay option for it.
i have sime full nugs in there i didnt want to even try to take apart, and others that i was able to keep it isolated and trim it off. theres about 80g wet i would say so i dont want to lose it and would love to salvage it so i can use it in hash. so - should i water cure. should i fil htis jar with water now?

also im still unsure on your suggestions lastnight. i should spray the buds that dont have bud rot that were close to it with the h2o2 as thayre starting to dry right now? and the stuff that has bud rot just leave for the water cure to deal with, correct?

 

[too larry]

I can not answer any questions about the water cure. I've never used the rotten bud. Always just tossed it.

MIddler had a thread with this question. Someone posted a link. Let me go find it, and I'll post it here.

 

[too larry]

https://skunkpharmresearch.com/salvaging-moldy-material-2/

Good luck.

 

[fantasyNugs93]

https://skunkpharmresearch.com/salvaging-moldy-material-2/

Good luck.

Thanks a ton! ill check that out now.
I's rather not just toss it as i have caught it quite early and done a good job separating it i believe.

How about as for the ones that were rot free but off the same branches or close to parts i cut. can you elaborate on your peroxide/h2o2 suggestion?

like that was supposed to be mixed and sprayed on the ones that are still good right now to prevent any stray spores from taking hold on them too, correct?

ill have pictures as soon as my phone stops being dumb of the two piles.

 

[too larry]

I do a quick wash of all the bud near a plant with bud rot. 1/4 cup H2O2 per gallon of water. Swish it around a few seconds, then rinse in clean water for a few seconds. You will be surprised at the amount of shit that comes out of your clean bud.

I spray straight H2O2 on the rotten bud before clipping. This keeps the spores from spreading while you remove it. I take a couple of buds above and below that spot, spraying the stem pretty good, and misting the closest buds on the stem. I don't spay the whole plant, or even the whole limb.

 

[too larry]

You need to get the water out of the bud after washing. With smaller amounts a salad spinner is great. Larger limbs you just sling out as much as you can. But with pot that has had some rot, I always buck the buds off the limbs to check them all for signs of rot. I have lost too many in the drying bins to try to save the long pretty cola buds. I strip them all off.

 

[fantasyNugs93]

I do a quick wash of all the bud near a plant with bud rot. 1/4 cup H2O2 per gallon of water. Swish it around a few seconds, then rinse in clean water for a few seconds. You will be surprised at the amount of shit that comes out of your clean bud.

I spray straight H2O2 on the rotten bud before clipping. This keeps the spores from spreading while you remove it. I take a couple of buds above and below that spot, spraying the stem pretty good, and misting the closest buds on the stem. I don't spay the whole plant, or even the whole limb.

Thanks, il incorperate this into my process from now on!

ill spray them when i get back today. i dont have time right now.

and as for the swishing around, do you mean to like fill 2 jars, one with that mix and one with water and do that with my harvested buds, then get out as much water as i can and dry normally?

Thanks again for the quick reply, i have to run now. but ill be back later on today!

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The screen on the rubbermaid is good buds that had no rot. and the ones on the box are the ones that had rot. i had them in a mason jar, but figured that was a bad idea while im gone for the day and i can figure out what to do when im back. but not to just leave them in the jar for now.