Fighting spider mites for over a year!!!

[Greenthumbs256]

OK guys unfortunately I still have spider mites! It's been about 3 maybe 4 cycles since I first noticed them! I have tried everything from azamax to green cleaner, lady bugs, pred mites! It's seems nothing works for long! All these products do work I don't deny that but none of them have 100% solved the problem! Every cycle they keep coming back even with a ipm regime! As some of you have seen I have managed them and still came out with a great product, but that's all I've done is managed them! I want them dead for ever 100% annihilation!!!!

So I've put all my new seeds on hold stopped taking clones and now flowering everything even my baby clones, the mothers everything!(no point in wasting them) the goal is to finish everything I have to the point where absolutely zero plants are growing and then bleach and scrub with napalm!

But I have a few questions! Will this guarantee they won't come back? I plan to continue using azamax through veg every weeks or so! But what else can I do to make sure they stay gone! I like to do perpetual grows and stopping like this is really going to hurt me so needless to say I don't wanna do it again!

 

[Greenthumbs256]

Does anyone have some advise? Or maybe want to share their ipm schedule?

I'm worried after I have zero plants and scrub and clean everything that will still come back next cycle! There has to be a way to be rid of them for good! No I don't have a surgically cleaned grow space and it's not 100% sealed bc it's in my house but still there has to be a way!

 

[Gorillaglue4u]

I've used mighty wash with good success. Spray bottoms of all leafs really well then repeat on tops of leafs and everything else. I sprayed mine 3 days apart a total of 4 sprays and knock on wood have not had them in a few years.

 

[pulpoinspace]

If they are two spotted mites they develop resistance so YOUR mites are probably resistant to Azamax by now. its important to hit them with different shit. I use Spinosad and Neem oil (natural azamax) during veg and green cleaner and purecrop1 during the stretch. your idea of scrubbing the room is great. clean with bleach and set off a doktor doom pyrethrin fogger and dont grow any mite food in there for a couple weeks too!

hit them hard and with a variety of products!

 

[pulpoinspace]

as for schedule i spray with neem oil early in their life, a couple times 5 days apart. then with spinosad later in veg same thing twice 5-7 days apart. then i usually just spray with purecrop1 for good measure sometime during the stretch 1-2 times they seem to like being sprayed with that. also i put diotamaceaus earth around the top of the pots too especially when i'm transplanting or moving them

 

[Greenthumbs256]

This was a good read for anyone else dealing with this problem!

https://www.maximumyield.com/grfighting-spider-mites-in-the-growroom/2/3961

 

[~MoE~]

I'd say your problem starts out of your grow room/space. You say this has been happening for over a year and it looks like you always clean after each round, so I'd say theres a infectious somewhere you go often, the problem is their so f-in small you could walk past hundreds and not even know, even thou there small they can travel far, and I believe that's what is happening to you as the mites had to come from somewhere right, if they were only in your grow room/space you would of eliminated them the first round, I think there recurring because their coming from somewhere else first.

 

[xtsho]

Cleansing depends on how your growing. If you have separate veg and bloom then finish bloom and stop. Everything in veg spray with neem. Clean flower room thoroughly. Clean again. Run flower lights without plants for a couple nights. Neem plants in veg again. . Clean flower room thoughtfully with bleach. Pull plants from veg and clean grow area with bleach. Neem plants again before putting back. Wash clothes with hot water. Maybe not in that exact order but if you have any chance of beating those demons you need to be aggressive immediately. Been there done that. Complacency is your enemy. Offense is the only way to beat them.

I don't even look at friends grows anymore because they all have bugs and I don't want them on my clothes.

Sometimes it's better to cull the herd and start over.
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By cull the herd I mean shut down, clean up, and start again after a period of time where you know everything is clean and bug free.

 

[Greenthumbs256]

Cleansing depends on how your growing. If you have separate veg and bloom then finish bloom and stop. Everything in veg spray with neem. Clean flower room thoroughly. Clean again. Run flower lights without plants for a couple nights. Neem plants in veg again. . Clean flower room thoughtfully with bleach. Pull plants from veg and clean grow area with bleach. Neem plants again before putting back. Wash clothes with hot water. Maybe not in that exact order but if you have any chance of beating those demons you need to be aggressive immediately. Been there done that. Complacency is your enemy. Offense is the only way to beat them.

I don't even look at friends grows anymore because they all have bugs and I don't want them on my clothes.

Sometimes it's better to cull the herd and start over.
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By cull the herd I mean shut down, clean up, and start again after a period of time where you know everything is clean and bug free.

I love this idea and thats pretty much my goal! I plan to take turns hitting that ass with azamax and mighty wash so I can make it through flower! My veg room is almost empty and I'm going to leave it empty until the harvest is over! Once I've salvaged what's left from this grow and everything is gone and tons and tons of bleach and cleaning I'm actually going to bomb both rooms then clean again and start fresh with new seeds and start my perpetual all over again! This time I'll be much more harder with my ipm!

 

[Greenthumbs256]

I think the problem is small enough to handle as finish my grow! I don't have webs and it's not like a crazy infestation but they are there and they are eating leaves! So if I can finish this harvest I'm going to take a few weeks break! And repeatedly clean over and over maybe even talk the ol lady into helping me Clean lol

 

[Greenthumbs256]

I have a question tho can I clean and restart the veg room with ipm while I'm finishing the flower room or will that be pointless bc the rooms are in the same house! I'm worried they will just find a way to live If I don't completly quit growing while I clean and get rid of them?

 

[somebodyhearted]

I dont use sprays, I dont have mites in over 10 years, how does this happen? buddies I think

 

[somebodyhearted]

Cleansing depends on how your growing. If you have separate veg and bloom then finish bloom and stop. Everything in veg spray with neem. Clean flower room thoroughly. Clean again. Run flower lights without plants for a couple nights. Neem plants in veg again. . Clean flower room thoughtfully with bleach. Pull plants from veg and clean grow area with bleach. Neem plants again before putting back. Wash clothes with hot water. Maybe not in that exact order but if you have any chance of beating those demons you need to be aggressive immediately. Been there done that. Complacency is your enemy. Offense is the only way to beat them.

I don't even look at friends grows anymore because they all have bugs and I don't want them on my clothes.

Sometimes it's better to cull the herd and start over.
.
By cull the herd I mean shut down, clean up, and start again after a period of time where you know everything is clean and bug free.

dont forget to stop inviting friends/clones into the space, and avoid other grow spaces....

 

[Bernie420]

I have a question tho can I clean and restart the veg room with ipm while I'm finishing the flower room or will that be pointless bc the rooms are in the same house! I'm worried they will just find a way to live If I don't completly quit growing while I clean and get rid of them?

I wouldnt shut down they are just going to come back. The trick is to spray all the time consistently get 100% coverage and break the life cycle of the bug. Imo you need to use neem once a week they smell that and say to themselves lets not go there. Foliar feeding anything even just water will kill the adults if it hits them and thats the trick so to do that you need to not be lazy and do it all the time.

Its best to spray when they are little plants to get the coverage... whats the coverage 100% then when you go into flower you know you dont have bugs and can stay on top of it through flower.

I can get into it more later on but I want to see pics of your grow if possible and pics of what you spray with / the sprayer / what sprayer do you use. Pics of your grow is for me to see what we are spraying / how big and the room. If not then a pic of what your spraying with definitely want to see that rig. I can help you build a better / easier sprayer.


But no cutting down to clean isnt the answer they will just return and you'll be pissed.

 

[Greenthumbs256]

I wouldnt shut down they are just going to come back. The trick is to spray all the time consistently get 100% coverage and break the life cycle of the bug. Imo you need to use neem once a week they smell that and say to themselves lets not go there. Foliar feeding anything even just water will kill the adults if it hits them and thats the trick so to do that you need to not be lazy and do it all the time.

Its best to spray when they are little plants to get the coverage... whats the coverage 100% then when you go into flower you know you dont have bugs and can stay on top of it through flower.

I can get into it more later on but I want to see pics of your grow if possible and pics of what you spray with / the sprayer / what sprayer do you use. Pics of your grow is for me to see what we are spraying / how big and the room. If not then a pic of what your spraying with definitely want to see that rig. I can help you build a better / easier sprayer.


But no cutting down to clean isnt the answer they will just return and you'll be pissed.

I appreciate the advise and I'll post pics of everything in just a second!

 

[Greenthumbs256]

OK got pics of the sprayer the azamax that I use, neem oil, I also top dress with D.E. and have some mighty wash that will be here tomorrow! Also my sprayer is pictured, also threw in a pic of one of my veg plants and the flower room!

 

[Greenthumbs256]

The veg room is about a 12 x 12 spare room no tent and only use two walls, the flower room is about the same size but with a 5x5 tent and 1k hps! If u need any more info just let me know!

 

[Gorillaglue4u]

I can't see very well but does the sprayer have a 360 rotating head on it? Makes it so much easier when having to spray the under sides of the leafs.
Make sure to hit every 2-3 days with mighty wash

 

[Greenthumbs256]

I can't see very well but does the sprayer have a 360 rotating head on it? Makes it so much easier when having to spray the under sides of the leafs.
Make sure to hit every 2-3 days with mighty wash

No the nozel doesn't turn like u saying! It does twist to change the type of spray like either mist or a beam of water! I hope that answers ur question but no other than that no kinda spinning!

 

[Gorillaglue4u]

It made my life way easier if you can get one it's worth the 4 bucks I paid for a hydrofarm one