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Chunky Stool

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That's correct. Everyone has to have the same organized morals, if we let anyone do what they want without consequence, we have nothing but state of complete chaos. Only when we agree on some sort of humanism based religion, can we all live in peace. The moment one group considers their views over those of society, virtuosity disappears.

Whether you call your religion secular humanism, Buddhism, Hinduism, or any of the Abrahamic religions, they're all a form of religion. All that's required for religion is belief in a higher power. It doesn't matter if it's for better good of humanity, the Dharmic universal laws, a divine creator, or the uncaring cosmic consciousness.


Marxism is an atheist propaganda death trap psy-op. The only way to make communism "work" is by banning religion and instead making the worship of the state as provider mandatory. There has never been one communist nation based upon the writings of the lunatic Karl Marx which weren't based on veneration of then state.
You obviously haven't studied the history of religion. :dunce:

Do we really need an adult version of santa claus to teach us that murder is wrong?

Generally speaking, I don't think humans are born with a desire to murder each other.
There are occasional bad apples, but rolling the genetic dice is always a gamble.

You do believe in DNA, yes?
 

Buddha2525

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You obviously haven't studied the history of religion. :dunce:

Do we really need an adult version of santa claus to teach us that murder is wrong?

Generally speaking, I don't think humans are born with a desire to murder each other.
There are occasional bad apples, but rolling the genetic dice is always a gamble.

You do believe in DNA, yes?
Yes we do need Santa. The arabs did experiments where they put children in with other children and only fed them. When they became adults they were exactly like animals.

You couldn't teach teach anymore than what a wild dog could. No language nor morality, and they would kill you for food.

DNA has jack to do with what we think is right or wrong if not taught within a certain young age.
 

Chunky Stool

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Yes we do need Santa. The arabs did experiments where they put children in with other children and only fed them. When they became adults they were exactly like animals.

You couldn't teach teach anymore than what a wild dog could. No language nor morality, and they would kill you for food.

DNA has jack to do with what we think is right or wrong if not taught within a certain young age.
So you need santa to teach children not to murder each other.

Wow.

That may be the dumbest thing I've read this month...
 

Bbcchance

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Yes we do need Santa. The arabs did experiments where they put children in with other children and only fed them. When they became adults they were exactly like animals.

You couldn't teach teach anymore than what a wild dog could. No language nor morality, and they would kill you for food.

DNA has jack to do with what we think is right or wrong if not taught within a certain young age.
My kids go to Catholic school and if I leave them alone in a room for more than 7 mins they revert straight back to animal behavior.
 

Buddha2525

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So you need santa to teach children not to murder each other.

Wow.

That may be the dumbest thing I've read this month...
"Santa" is society of some sort. We aren't born with morality we ape it, since we're apes.

When given a thought experiment to neurotypical adults whether a person gives another person a poison which was accidentally mislabeled if that person is responsible, they'll tend to say no. While an neuroatypical, such as an autistic will more likely, due to their degree of lacking social mirroring capability, will tend to blame the person rather than being an accident.

The more mirroring ability an autistic has, the more likely they can correctly determine accidental bad outcomes and show empathy towards the accused.

If at a young age we don't learn socially acceptable behavior, the older one is before learning that behavior, the less moral they become.

"Children born among the Han or Yueh people of the south and among the Mo barbarians of the north cry with the same voice at birth, but as they grow older, they follow different customs. Education causes them to differ." Hsun Tzu.

What is considered murder is from culture. So "Santa" is needed, we don't have "better be good for goodness sake" from birth, we learn that as a learned social behavior, as social creatures.

After a certain age with no human interaction with other humans who already learned proper behavior we become unable to learn that behavior.

As a grower you should know this. If a newb grower is given superior genetic seeds, than a seasoned grower, the newb will produce lesser quality flowers than seasoned one. DNA is only potential. Without a proper Santa nuturing environment we become no better than wild animals.
 
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