(Pics) what’s my deficiency?

[Tuckatan]

Hold up brother: let's talk about your micro? Can you put up a label pic or more info?

Are you saying you're using GH Flora products? if so which products specifically, cuz unless I missed something your numbers aren't adding up

I was using hard water micros as I was using my tap water, but now I’m using de ionised water, maybe I should change micros?

 

[jtrizzy]

The damage is done though. Just work with what you have now.

 

[Tuckatan]

But if it’s coming out at 700ppm it has plenty of nutes left in the soil, why add more? I’d just chill with the nutes use plain ph’d water for awhile.

The coco/peat is pre fertilised which is giving me headaches now! Guano along with magnesium limestone and whatever else! Lol I think you are right dude plain water from now on!

 

[jtrizzy]

The coco/peat is pre fertilised which is giving me headaches now! Guano along with magnesium limestone and whatever else! Lol I think you are right dude plain water from now on!

The problem is, your gonna be chasing your tail now constantly. This is exactly why I don’t use all this Nute crap. I use 1 and 1 only. FFOF soil than tiger bloom during flower with ph’d tap water, done. I have other issues becuase I am a dumbass but that’s my fault.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

I mean, I’ve heard conflicting stuff about flushing but in all honesty it’s sounding like an option right now! My water was going in at 035ppm and runoff is around 800-1000ppm

flushing at harvest is a waste of time, a myth, and kind of stupid.
flushing when you have something in your pots that you don't want there is ok.
the actual practice is called "leaching" and the only time it's used in agriculture is when you have to remove something from your field. not from your plants. you can't remove anything from your plants once it's in there. if a field is mismanaged and over fertilized, it has to be leached to make it usable again. if it's contaminated during a flood or some other natural occurrence, they leach it, to remove the contaminants.
idiots at nutrient companies became aware of this practice and used it as a way to sell other idiots more of their useless shit products.
so, flushing at harvest, to remove anything from your plant, BULLSHIT. leaching to remove built up salts from your pot? perfectly acceptable, in fact, the only way to achieve your goal.

 

[Tuckatan]

The problem is, your gonna be chasing your tail now constantly. This is exactly why I don’t use all this Nute crap. I use 1 and 1 only. FFOF soil than tiger bloom during flower with ph’d tap water, done. I have other issues becuase I am a dumbass but that’s my fault.

For real, I already feel like I’m chasing my tail and don’t know what’s new issue, what’s old, what’s repairing and whats getting worse lol. I guess just plain water for a couple weeks and see what happens. Kinda wana flower it now but wana make sure it’s not deficient first. Know what I mean?

 

[jtrizzy]

For real, I already feel like I’m chasing my tail and don’t know what’s new issue, what’s old, what’s repairing and whats getting worse lol. I guess just plain water for a couple weeks and see what happens. Kinda wana flower it now but wana make sure it’s not deficient first. Know what I mean?

I Advise against flowering before issues have been resolved, but it’s your plant brother.

 

[Tuckatan]

I Advise against flowering before issues have been resolved, but it’s your plant brother.

Exactly that! I won’t flower it until it’s in good shape, but it’s grown pretty big so wana get these deficiencies sorted first but it’s being a pain in the ass, mostly because I’m such a N00b and don’t know what I’m doing, just winging it lol. I think you’re right though, plain water with no nutes and see what’s what. What should my run off ppm be around for it to not be too hot?

 

[Tuckatan]

flushing at harvest is a waste of time, a myth, and kind of stupid.
flushing when you have something in your pots that you don't want there is ok.
the actual practice is called "leaching" and the only time it's used in agriculture is when you have to remove something from your field. not from your plants. you can't remove anything from your plants once it's in there. if a field is mismanaged and over fertilized, it has to be leached to make it usable again. if it's contaminated during a flood or some other natural occurrence, they leach it, to remove the contaminants.
idiots at nutrient companies became aware of this practice and used it as a way to sell other idiots more of their useless shit products.
so, flushing at harvest, to remove anything from your plant, BULLSHIT. leaching to remove built up salts from your pot? perfectly acceptable, in fact, the only way to achieve your goal.

That sounds entirely logical so I will take your advice and get some water through it! For this, should I wait until it’s ready to feed or just do it asap?

 

[Tuckatan]

Hold up brother: let's talk about your micro? Can you put up a label pic or more info?

Are you saying you're using GH Flora products? if so which products specifically, cuz unless I missed something your numbers aren't adding up

Your piecemealing your newts; no wonder everything's off, just read the label and start using all three products according to label directions, but start at 50% dose.

I’ve been nuteing at probably around 25% of recommended due to my soul having some nutes in already!

 

[jtrizzy]

Exactly that! I won’t flower it until it’s in good shape, but it’s grown pretty big so wana get these deficiencies sorted first but it’s being a pain in the ass, mostly because I’m such a N00b and don’t know what I’m doing, just winging it lol. I think you’re right though, plain water with no nutes and see what’s what. What should my run off ppm be around for it to not be too hot?

I cannot answer that I have no idea. But adding no ppm and getting 700ppm out the other end tells you something.

 

[Tuckatan]

I cannot answer that I have no idea. But adding no ppm and getting 700ppm out the other end tells you something.

To be honest dude, 700 is the lower end, it’s usually 800/900, and more!

 

[Medicated Bonsai]

I would recommend an all purpose organic nute like MegaCrop. I only had real issues when using the synthetic stuff. I don't think it's the quality of the nutrients but rather our lack of knowledge. Sometimes, it's hard to pinpoint deficiency and toxicities so we end up giving the plants the wrong stuff. I hope I didn't offend you with the answer here. I just know that, for me, synthetic nutes is a recipe for failure haha.

EDIT :: A healthy soil is also a must. I think a lot of synthetic nutes kill the beneficial stuff in the soil. This will also effect your nutrient uptake. Good Luck Brother!

 

[Tuckatan]

I would recommend an all purpose organic nute like MegaCrop. I only had real issues when using the synthetic stuff. I don't think it's the quality of the nutrients but rather our lack of knowledge. Sometimes, it's hard to pinpoint deficiency and toxicities so we end up giving the plants the wrong stuff. I hope I didn't offend you with the answer here. I just know that, for me, synthetic nutes is a recipe for failure haha.

EDIT :: A healthy soil is also a must. I think a lot of synthetic nutes kill the beneficial stuff in the soil. This will also effect your nutrient uptake. Good Luck Brother!

Of course no offence caused bro! I like to get everyone’s opinions, what works for them, what doesn’t, all helps me build my extremely limited knowledge!

 

[jtrizzy]

Look I ain’t no expert, I am new to this as well, but I try and make this as simple as possible. YES, I still manage to make horrible decisions as well which affect the plants. I learned a lot this second go around that I am def going to avoid next grow:

1) I need to stop overwatering. Just because others can use 1 gallon of water every 3-4 days does not mean I can.
2) stop putting my plants outside for the free sun light, I ended getting aphids from a stupid bush it was close to.
3) I need to chill the fuck out and stop panicking.

If I didn’t do those first two I’d be in a lot better shape. The third is my personality, I am a worry ward, but I can work on that too.

 

[jtrizzy]

Anyway I am going to lounge in the pool
And drink a few brews, see y’all later.

 

[Tuckatan]

Look I ain’t no expert, I am new to this as well, but I try and make this as simple as possible. YES, I still manage to make horrible decisions as well wich affect the plants. I learned a lot this second go around that I am def going to avoid next grow:

1) I need to stop overwatering. Just because others can use 1 gallon of water every 3-4 days does not mean I can.
2) stop putting my plants outside for the free sun light, I ended getting aphids from a stupid bush it was close to.
3) I need to chill the fuck out and stop panicking.

If I didn’t do those first two I’d be in a lot better shape. The third is my personality, I am a worry ward, but I can work on that too.

Haha I hear you man. Mine stays indoors due to me being in not so sunny England. I mean I’m not sure if it may have had b toxicity and it’s just the already affected leaves yellowing off, I just don’t know but I’m kinda agreeing with the flushing the soil thing, at least It’s kinda like a reset button on the medium! And yea this is first grow, so I’m hoping the second will go much more smoothly lol

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

That sounds entirely logical so I will take your advice and get some water through it! For this, should I wait until it’s ready to feed or just do it asap?

the sooner the better, just make the last half gallon or so half strength nutes, then wait for it to dry out good before you do anything else

 

[Tuckatan]

the sooner the better, just make the last half gallon or so half strength nutes, then wait for it to dry out good before you do anything else

Cheers bud will do. Is there a rough guide of around what the Ppm of the runoff should be in the end? Only thing I’m thinking is as my medium has some guano etc, would I be better off not adding nutes as there is some in there, maybe check the ppm after the flush before adding anything extra?

 

[Blitz35]

Sorry all, I may have been slightly intoxicated whilest making the above post, and I’m not using flora grow, as I had an abundance of N, so have actually been feeding micro and bloom. Apologies for my drunken mistakes!
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Also it’s getting light nutes.. around 2ml/gallon micro 1ml/gallon grow and 1ml/gallon calmag.

No idea what to make of this post..one you say you don't use it..it was a mistake you mentioned it prior..then you follow up again with saying you're feeding it that lol. I don't know what you are doing...you keep mentioning you don't use the grow because of the excess nitrogen (2-1-6 npk)..but you're using micro which is 5-0-1 npk? Then you say you feed at 035 ppm? what is 035? coming out at 700+? Either way..i gave my answer to what element that yellowing is representing..best of luck..happy growing!