Question about nutes

[Seymour Green]

Sorry if this has been asked before, or if this is a dumb question, but I would like to feed (in coco for that matter) a lower ec in between my regular full strength feedings. My question is would it be wise to feed at full strength and just dilute with water or just use 1/2 strength or 1/4 strength nutes to my reg gallon of ro water. It seems to me it would make more sense to just conserve the nutes and go half or quarter strength. Or is this dumb all together? Any help is appreciated.

 

[MickFoster]

I feed daily with 1/2 the recommended dose, and twice a day in flower. No need for full strength with daily feedings. Good luck.

 

[Seymour Green]

I feed daily with 1/2 the recommended dose, and twice a day in flower. No need for full strength with daily feedings. Good luck.

Thanks Mick. This makes perfect sense to me.

 

[Seymour Green]

I feed daily with 1/2 the recommended dose, and twice a day in flower. No need for full strength with daily feedings. Good luck.

One more question, is that half strength on the cal mag also in ro water, or full strength on the calmag first, and then half on the rest? Thanks for your help.

 

[MickFoster]

One more question, is that half strength on the cal mag also in ro water, or full strength on the calmag first, and then half on the rest? Thanks for your help.

I don't use cal/mag, but if I did I would do 1/2 strength. Good luck.

 

[Seymour Green]

I don't use cal/mag, but if I did I would do 1/2 strength. Good luck.

Thanks again Mick.

 

[JohnDee]

Hi Seymour,
I've dabbled in coco but plan on using more. It's my understanding that you should feed the same nute strength each time. Daily or more frequently if doing hydro style. So keep it low but regular. Water to 20% runoff and you should be in the park.
JD

 

[Seymour Green]

Hi Seymour,
I've dabbled in coco but plan on using more. It's my understanding that you should feed the same nute strength each time. Daily or more frequently if doing hydro style. So keep it low but regular. Water to 20% runoff and you should be in the park.
JD

Thanks JD. I've been using heads 6/9 with GH nutes. I know it's an out dated feed schedule, but it's been giving me decent results. I did the past few feeds at 3/6, and 2.5 ml of calimagic to a gallon of ro water, but I'm starting to see what I think is the beginning stage of a mag deficiency. I would like to try Jacks 3-2-1 when I have a few bucks to spend, but not till the next run. Thanks for your help.

 

[JohnDee]

but I'm starting to see what I think is the beginning stage of a mag deficiency.

I still use what is essentially the Lucas formula...so I relate. You could bump up the Mg if needed and won't disrupt the core ratios. Especially if your using ro water. All marijuana like mg but some more then others.
JD

 

[Seymour Green]

I still use what is essentially the Lucas formula...so I relate. You could bump up the Mg if needed and won't disrupt the core ratios. Especially if your using ro water. All marijuana like mg but some more then others.
JD

Hi JD. I was thinking this and was wondering if I should use epsom salts. How much would you suggest to a gal of ro water? I also have a bottle of advance nutes bud candy which says is just magnesium, but I heard bud candy leaves a funky taste to the herb even if cured properly. Thanks again.

 

[JohnDee]

Hi Seymour,
You should evaluate your water and nutrients to be sure there isn't enough already.

But for maintenance I go 1/4 tsp/gal and upward to full on deficiency which needs 1 tsp/gal. On your plants I'd maybe go 1/2 tsp/gal...you'll see improvement if it's deficiency related...good luck.
JD

 

[Seymour Green]

Hi Seymour,
You should evaluate your water and nutrients to be sure there isn't enough already.

But for maintenance I go 1/4 tsp/gal and upward to full on deficiency which needs 1 tsp/gal. On your plants I'd maybe go 1/2 tsp/gal...you'll see improvement if it's deficiency related...good luck.
JD

Hey JD. I start with ro water that has 0 ppms. I used to use epsom salts but read on a forum that when using epsom, it threw the nute ratio out of whack with the 6/9 formula, so I stopped using it. I'm definitely seeing a mag deficiency though so I will use the epsom tonight when I feed. Thanks yet again. Here's a couple pics to show what I'm talking about. Sorry for the crappy quality, my camera sucks.

 

[rkymtnman]

used to use epsom salts but read on a forum that when using epsom, it threw the nute ratio out of whack with the 6/9 formula, so I stopped using it.

if you are talking about H3AD's formula, it's 6/9 with 1gram/gal of epsom. it only bumps up your Mg (and Sulfur too) but NPKCa stays the same.

 

[JohnDee]

Seymour,
I'm a minimalist regarding nutes. Been using Maxi for decades. I can't imagine any nute regimen that's so inflexible that it can't handle supplementation for a deficiency. I'd chalk that one up to "Bro science".

Lots of guys use calmag but if your Ca regimen is good...then using calmag is adding Ca that isn't really needed.. This is why I prefer Epsom salts. Anyway...I agree it looks like developing Mg def. So go for it.
JD

 

[Seymour Green]

if you are talking about H3AD's formula, it's 6/9 with 1gram/gal of epsom. it only bumps up your Mg (and Sulfur too) but NPKCa stays the same.

if you are talking about H3AD's formula, it's 6/9 with 1gram/gal of epsom. it only bumps up your Mg (and Sulfur too) but NPKCa stays the same.[/QUOTE. Thank you very much! I remember reading some say the gram of epsom was to much for the heads formula, so he cut it to a half gram. But anyway I just added a half a teaspoon of epsom on top of base nutes so we'll see how it goes.

 

[JohnDee]

@rkymtnman Hey Dude...hope you're well. Still pluggin' away, delay after delay. Electrical turned into a quagmire ...but I licked it today. Now ganja, kif and some Tequila!
JD

PS Sorry for the little hijack

 

[Seymour Green]

Seymour,
I'm a minimalist regarding nutes. Been using Maxi for decades. I can't imagine any nute regimen that's so inflexible that it can't handle supplementation for a deficiency. I'd chalk that one up to "Bro science".

Lots of guys use calmag but if your Ca regimen is good...then using calmag is adding Ca that isn't really needed.. This is why I prefer Epsom salts. Anyway...I agree it looks like developing Mg def. So go for it.
JD

Hi JD. I often think of switching to maxicrop just for ease of mixing nutes, but I hear so many different opinions on it that I get scared off lol! I will definitely try jacks next run if possible. I see great results from people using it and the herb I smoked grown with it was very flavorful. I hear its a pita to mix though and doesn't dissolve very easily.

 

[rkymtnman]

@rkymtnman Hey Dude...hope you're well. Still pluggin' away, delay after delay. Electrical turned into a quagmire ...but I licked it today. Now ganja, kif and some Tequila!
JD

PS Sorry for the little hijack

doing fantastic! just spent 2 weeks over in Portugal with the family. great trip. good to hear you're doing good! i just made me a Mojito. cheers!

 

[rkymtnman]

your reply came out messed up seymour.

for a quick fix of Mg issue, hit those ladies with a epsom foliar spray. that's the fastest way to fix it. i forget the mix ratio but google it. once tonite and once in the am and it should be fine.

 

[JohnDee]

Hi JD. I often think of switching to maxicrop just for ease of mixing nutes

Some people are so fixated on what they use that they aren't open to options. I had a guy call me a bad gardener solely because I use a 1 part powdered nute.

I'd switch to Jack's but I have 6 kilos of Maxibloom to use up first. I like their ratios a bit better (especially P).

On the hard to dissolve nutes I just warm up a gallon of water...and dissolve it first into that.
JD