My buds arent filling out

InTheValley

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he has more problems then just light schedule. Mag deficiency and to much nitrogen. Flush with PH water and calmag, 4ML per gallon. Your PH could be off too, so check that first. Should be 6.5-6.7
 

whitebb2727

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Add my thought on light distance. I know limitations and have them. Topping and supercropping early control height well. Suggested. But in several cases lately I started thinking I'd yank that LED and put a T5HO fixture over them. Then it really can be close. If you doubt it can't be finished under the right T5 check out some sections of RIU.

No it won't be like HPS quality but no cheap LED is close either. Just a thought.
Be careful with t5. I used to use them. They will grow killer pot. I had a 4ft 8 bulb fixture. The bulbs were double stacked. 8 bulbs in the same space as most 4 bulb units. Any closer than 12-15 inches and I would get bleaching and light burn.

I used a 10,000k+uva bulb as well though. With regular bulbs it still needed 10-12 inches.
 
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whitebb2727

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Like everyone else said it's a reveg you should just chop them all down an start over....if your emotionally attached to the plant you could reveg it completely and flower again but in the 6 months that's going to take you could have had 2 other grows done
Why?

Reveg plants tend to.be monsters.

If anything cut them back down to a couple branches and keep vegging until they are grown out again.

I am sure that fxing those will be quicker than starting over.
 

Ryante55

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Why?

Reveg plants tend to.be monsters.

If anything cut them back down to a couple branches and keep vegging until they are grown out again.

I am sure that fxing those will be quicker than starting over.
I've done it didn't like the end product or how long it took they don't always rebound very fast you can veg for like 3 weeks an get big plants like I said if it's a plant you want to keep alive go for it but I'm pretty sure you would end up with more weed in less time from starting over. Do you reveg plants alot? Most people I have seen try it don't do it again for a reason
 
he has more problems then just light schedule. Mag deficiency and to much nitrogen. Flush with PH water and calmag, 4ML per gallon. Your PH could be off too, so check that first. Should be 6.5-6.7
We ph'd the water as soon as we transfered it inside.. We bought ph strips and made sure. It PH'd at 6.6
 

whitebb2727

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I've done it didn't like the end product or how long it took they don't always rebound very fast you can veg for like 3 weeks an get big plants like I said if it's a plant you want to keep alive go for it but I'm pretty sure you would end up with more weed in less time from starting over. Do you reveg plants alot? Most people I have seen try it don't do it again for a reason
Yes. I do it a lot. Some don't respond well to it. The ones in question started throwing single blades fast. That means they are a good candidate for reveg.

Every year when I used to guerilla grow I put my plants out early and then they would flower then reveg. It's called monster cropping. I take clones from flowering plants.

I've revegged probably a couple or three hundred plants.

I do admit some don't like it. The end result is more weed though. That I do know.
 

Ryante55

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Yes. I do it a lot. Some don't respond well to it. The ones in question started throwing single blades fast. That means they are a good candidate for reveg.

Every year when I used to guerilla grow I put my plants out early and then they would flower then reveg. It's called monster cropping. I take clones from flowering plants.

I've revegged probably a couple or three hundred plants.

I do admit some don't like it. The end result is more weed though. That I do know.
Outdoor is a little different in an indoor situation time is bud if your in a 4x4 you can pull 1.5-2lb from a 4x4 in 3 months if you have access to clones. i guess I just don't see that plant being ready to flower again in 3 weeks I could be wrong but when I've revegged it has taken 5-6 weeks to look ok enough to flower I would rather save the 2-3 weeks and reduced risk of something going wrong. To each their own monstercropped plants can be some crazy looking bushes
 

SB85

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Outdoor is a little different in an indoor situation time is bud if your in a 4x4 you can pull 1.5-2lb from a 4x4 in 3 months if you have access to clones. i guess I just don't see that plant being ready to flower again in 3 weeks I could be wrong but when I've revegged it has taken 5-6 weeks to look ok enough to flower I would rather save the 2-3 weeks and reduced risk of something going wrong. To each their own monstercropped plants can be done crazy looking bushes


How's the 321/recharge combo going?
 

tyke1973

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300w
I just moved the light up higher but its hanging from a shelf so it wont go much higher.
7/12 inch from the top of the plants,any lower you won't get the right spread of light.Its good to have it closer when there small ,but you need a bit of light spread.Just carry on they will full out be Patient
 

whitebb2727

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Outdoor is a little different in an indoor situation time is bud if your in a 4x4 you can pull 1.5-2lb from a 4x4 in 3 months if you have access to clones. i guess I just don't see that plant being ready to flower again in 3 weeks I could be wrong but when I've revegged it has taken 5-6 weeks to look ok enough to flower I would rather save the 2-3 weeks and reduced risk of something going wrong. To each their own monstercropped plants can be some crazy looking bushes
I do it indoors as well. I've shown it in my grow threads. It works just fine. Some stains don't work well. The plants in this thread responded quickly.

I'm not going to debate it anymore. Monster cropping is a thing for a reason.

My advice is to keep them. They responded quickly.

The op can take it or leave it.
 
Didnt get pics today.. I will get some tomorrow but it is growing really fast it has grown light green leaves that are about half an inch to an inch long.
 

althor

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The grow store told me LED was the way to go. So i just bought what he suggested. Like i said im completely new to this. I didnt even really mean to start growing those. But once i seen them I figured i would try.. But i feel like im screwing it all up lol
Yeah, of course when you ask an employee at a store "should I buy the 500 dollar LED or the 200 dollar HID"... I can pretty much guarantee what the answer will be 10 out of 10 times.

Not saying they are wrong or right, but that is going to be the answer. Buy my 500 dollar light.
 
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