zypheruk
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Will they be fully certified for use in the UK ?, as I know chill ain't.
HLG or chilLED
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Stephenj37826
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We are working on CE. Yes it will in a few extra weeks. A couple of extra tests for CE.
zypheruk
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Excellent work. From what I hear chill ain't doing ce so their loss.
OLD MOTHER SATIVA
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thats not me dumbassSo hows it going Old Med User?
Ouch
OLD MOTHER SATIVA
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water cooled lights are fiddly
Yeah true my thought was greenhouses already use swamp coolers if you could plug your water-cooling system into that you could probabaly have a really small led pushing alot of power. Some people do some crazy shit for effeciency haha. There's a farm I watched a video on that uses a boiler to heat their greenhouse with radiant floor heat then stores the co2 from running the boiler to use for the plants water cooling some led has to be easier than all that haha
PilouPilou
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Sry it's what I have read here. Sad you made not more vids in the US factory that assemble your PCB.. the only one I've seen is a "zoom" video on a smt machine (with chinese words on it). Easy to ask to a chinese supplier to make a video and add your voice! But I believe you because you say it.
Why didn't you start by the most important thing of your buisness: certifications and electrical safety!
For the CE: CE means nothing! There are a lot of directives for electrical products, especially grow lights:
CE for domestic use or for greenhouse use, it's different. Damp location or not.
For CE certification forget:
- serie wiring for domestic use (no more than 54V, 24V in damp location, a grow tent/room is a damp location for authorities and insurance)
- parallel wiring without a pcb relay in an insulated box.
- "open air" +/- connector.
- no cover or non coated chips (like fluence do with sillicon added on their chips)
- serial number and specifications for each light on a special sticker that can resist to humidity and heat.
- etc etc
A lot of different directives in the CE certification.
I think he meant they designed the product here the first boards were made in China and sold under a different company name. I'm personally glad they sold boards before certification id rather build my own stuff vs waiting years for someone to tell me I can use it in a damp location. If it were easy you would see more companies using the latest diodes.
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PilouPilou
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I'm not a consultant, I just tell what I think and incidentally what I know. Sry fanboy.
maxlev
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Apologies if you forgot to engage brain & were sucked in by a slippery shady dude from the land of "cheap & nasty" blatant copies
diyled
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We are not dealing with a luminaire for wet locations here. I've had no problem (so far) with ce on strip lights.
The standards that apply from the LVD are basic and for these products requires no 3rd party testing. Self certification is fine.
Your comment about a special name plate did make me laugh.
PilouPilou
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All components are CE certified but it doesn't mean that the final product is CE certified: the most important thing is if the final assembly is CE certified.
Self certification is possible for companies that are based in Europe but you must publish publicly your own certification (todogrow do it for their COB procucts), outside Europe it must be certified by a 3rd party. There are others rules, like stickers, serial number if authorities want follow what you sell, status of your company (re seller or manufacturer) etc.
I remember you telling here that you don't sell chinese PCB because it's not CE marked and not legal.. so the hlg board you sell are CE marked? Just a question...
diyled
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I have ce being done for the final assembly of the strip lights so they can be sold as luminaries rather than kits.
I wouldnt sell chinese crap, apart from it being crap, its not got rohs. Parts only require rohs to be sold as a components and the v2 boards have that. I am going to talk to hlg about getting full CE on the kits soon as it's cheap enough to do.
PilouPilou
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Which CE directive? For domestic use, for damp location in a domestic use, for greenhouse use, etc etc... there are a lot of directives - globally, CE means nothing, even a dildo can be CE certified! you must certify the directives that you want to choose for the use of the product you sell, that is the most important thing if you want to respect CE laws and the security of your clients: you need to read and understand all CE directives that are affected to the product you want to sell and how you want it must be used by your clients.
I could speak you too about the anodized frames that you use to make lights that are electrically class 0 and don't allowed because it's dangerous. Just test your anodized frames with a ohms meter... it's not electrically conductive, so it's dangerous because no connection with ground.
A lot of pple sell low priced lights saying it's top level quality but they forget the basic rules of the security of the end user.. it's why some companies sell more expensive products but 100% secured because they have in their team real engineers! price or security.. make your choice!
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PilouPilou
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Last video of Greengenes - a viewer asked him why he doesn't sell components in europe: Greengenes replied it's not legal to sell components that come from us or from china to europe because it's not CE certified... I'm sure you are more pro than Greengenes and I'm sure too that you will explain me (us) why... it begins at 15mn40sec
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PilouPilou
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All your plug'n play lamps are illegal in Europe... all your components non CE certified are illegal in Europe.. that's it. You're not ok with that, give me a (legal) proof... you said I made you laugh, make me laugh now, pls!
PilouPilou
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Sub market with sub laws with sub security and sub respect of the end user.. it's a choice! It's not the choice of the majority of brands that try to make money legally.