Cannaventure seeds thread

[Thegermling]

If that's so , I'm sure that's the problem because ive had this tote sitting out back getting rained on for a long time, long time! I was watching Everest's YouTube video about coco runoff EC and decided to ck mine and it was awful straight out if the bag, so I threw my new and used in that tote thinking I was doing the right thing. I guess I made things worse.

I like everest hes a cool smart ass dude. Did your seedlings look like they had burnt tips? How often did you feed the seedlings?
Yes, you cant use plain water BUT I do so only in the first couple days before I even present the coco with nutrients. Whenever you flush, dont use only water because it causes osmotic stress in the root zone. You need about a weak (0.5EC) solution to flush and thats only if you have nutrient burn meaning theres a salt buildup in the coco. If you decide to multifeed later on try not to go above 1.2.

 

[boybelue]

I like everest hes a cool smart ass dude. Did your seedlings look like they had burnt tips? How often did you feed the seedlings?
Yes, you cant use plain water BUT I do so only in the first couple days before I even present the coco with nutrients. Whenever you flush, dont use only water because it causes osmotic stress in the root zone. You need about a weak (0.5EC) solution to flush and thats only if you have nutrient burn meaning theres a salt buildup in the coco. If you decide to multifeed later on try not to go above 1.2.

Nope there wasn't no burn to them at all they just sorta shrunk if that makes any sense ,but they was still green out to the tips. Then the stem just sorta shriveled up and dried out, but not damping in like one area, the whole stem. What y'all all been saying makes sense because I imagine it got way over leached and I only used 5ml to a gal of the clonex and it normally calls for 5-10ml per Qt/L and then at the end I used straight RO so that made it worse. I was thinking "hell yea this stuffs gonna be leached out good" didn't realize what I was doing.

 

[CAPT CHESAPEAKE]

Nope there wasn't no burn to them at all they just sorta shrunk if that makes any sense ,but they was still green out to the tips. Then the stem just sorta shriveled up and dried out, but not damping in like one area, the whole stem. What y'all all been saying makes sense because I imagine it got way over leached and I only used 5ml to a gal of the clonex and it normally calls for 5-10ml per Qt/L and then at the end I used straight RO so that made it worse. I was thinking "hell yea this stuffs gonna be leached out good" didn't realize what I was doing.

I vote Starvation !

 

[CAPT CHESAPEAKE]

Nope there wasn't no burn to them at all they just sorta shrunk if that makes any sense ,but they was still green out to the tips. Then the stem just sorta shriveled up and dried out, but not damping in like one area, the whole stem. What y'all all been saying makes sense because I imagine it got way over leached and I only used 5ml to a gal of the clonex and it normally calls for 5-10ml per Qt/L and then at the end I used straight RO so that made it worse. I was thinking "hell yea this stuffs gonna be leached out good" didn't realize what I was doing.

That PPM meter will scare the shit out of you with the Clonex at full strength

 

[Thegermling]

Nope there wasn't no burn to them at all they just sorta shrunk if that makes any sense ,but they was still green out to the tips. Then the stem just sorta shriveled up and dried out, but not damping in like one area, the whole stem. What y'all all been saying makes sense because I imagine it got way over leached and I only used 5ml to a gal of the clonex and it normally calls for 5-10ml per Qt/L and then at the end I used straight RO so that made it worse. I was thinking "hell yea this stuffs gonna be leached out good" didn't realize what I was doing.

Im not familiar with using clonex so I wouldnt know (shocker). How often did you water them and what were temps and humidity like?

 

[boybelue]

Im not familiar with using clonex so I wouldnt know (shocker). How often did you water them and what were temps and humidity like?

I put the coco in dixie/beer cups and it was damp then I run the clonex solution through it enough just to barely get any runoff, mainly to wet it down good, then transplanted the sprouts and they had gotten pretty good size. Then I sit them in a small tray with the dome opened up and propped up a little, humidity in the room stays around 60 and temps stay around room temp , may fall under a little but hardly ever gets under 70. Had two of the little sun blaster 18 inch t5s sitting on the dome sideways, its one of the domes with the grooves made to sit the t5s in. Then around 48 hrs I noticed they were headed downhill and I run some RO through it thinking maybe the pH might be off or the nutes a little high but it was already to late. Dang I wrote all this yesterday and thought I posted it! Crazy! Lol

 

[boybelue]

I'm not really noticing anything special about the Clonex. Just the Clone and seedling nutrient, their other products I feel are ok. I just haven't noticed any advantages over any other mild nutrient solutions.

 

[socaljoe]

I put the coco in dixie/beer cups and it was damp then I run the clonex solution through it enough just to barely get any runoff, mainly to wet it down good, then transplanted the sprouts and they had gotten pretty good size. Then I sit them in a small tray with the dome opened up and propped up a little, humidity in the room stays around 60 and temps stay around room temp , may fall under a little but hardly ever gets under 70. Had two of the little sun blaster 18 inch t5s sitting on the dome sideways, its one of the domes with the grooves made to sit the t5s in. Then around 48 hrs I noticed they were headed downhill and I run some RO through it thinking maybe the pH might be off or the nutes a little high but it was already to late. Dang I wrote all this yesterday and thought I posted it! Crazy! Lol

You do the paper towel method for sprouting seeds, correct?

Do you use hydrogen peroxide when sprouting them? I ask that because I was having an issue with seedlings damping off, so I started soaking the seeds in a weak hydrogen peroxide and water mix for 18-24 hours then planting them in my media, had much better results. I can't say it was 100% the h2o2 that did it or if I changed something I was doing, but it can't hurt to try if you're not already using it.

 

[Thegermling]

I put the coco in dixie/beer cups and it was damp then I run the clonex solution through it enough just to barely get any runoff, mainly to wet it down good, then transplanted the sprouts and they had gotten pretty good size. Then I sit them in a small tray with the dome opened up and propped up a little, humidity in the room stays around 60 and temps stay around room temp , may fall under a little but hardly ever gets under 70. Had two of the little sun blaster 18 inch t5s sitting on the dome sideways, its one of the domes with the grooves made to sit the t5s in. Then around 48 hrs I noticed they were headed downhill and I run some RO through it thinking maybe the pH might be off or the nutes a little high but it was already to late. Dang I wrote all this yesterday and thought I posted it! Crazy! Lol

Did you ever test the runoff ec of the coco you left outside? If you left the coco outside maybe it was a perfect breeding groud for something like pathogens to grow in. But you said your seedlings didnt look like they had anything they just shrunk. If you still have the coco try checking the runoff ec.

 

[CAPT CHESAPEAKE]

I'm not really noticing anything special about the Clonex. Just the Clone and seedling nutrient, their other products I feel are ok. I just haven't noticed any advantages over any other mild nutrient solutions.

Just curious boybelue have you been using the clonex at full strength 10ml per liter

 

[boybelue]

You do the paper towel method for sprouting seeds, correct?

Do you use hydrogen peroxide when sprouting them? I ask that because I was having an issue with seedlings damping off, so I started soaking the seeds in a weak hydrogen peroxide and water mix for 18-24 hours then planting them in my media, had much better results. I can't say it was 100% the h2o2 that did it or if I changed something I was doing, but it can't hurt to try if you're not already using it.

Most of the time for indoor i do the paper towel, outside i normally just plant em straight in peat pellets. Now that you mentioned it I may start mixing a small amount of peroxide with ro and dampen my towels with it. I've seen peroxide help with seedlings I've left in towels to long, like where they start damping off and get that sorta transparent look on the stem. Sprayed 3% on em and they get that bright white healthy look back. So yeah I think I'll start doing a weak peroxide soak or just dampen towel with it.

Did you ever test the runoff ec of the coco you left outside? If you left the coco outside maybe it was a perfect breeding groud for something like pathogens to grow in. But you said your seedlings didnt look like they had anything they just shrunk. If you still have the coco try checking the runoff ec.

I'll ck that runoff tomorrow , I'm really thinking my leaching it out so much screwed it up. I really didn't notice anything out of the ordinary, no larva ,smelled ok and all but still could have been something I wouldn't have noticed. I'm really wanting to use this coco, ive got some new bales but theres a lot of coco in that tote, think its 50gal tote. Biggest one lowes had at the time.

Just curious boybelue have you been using the clonex at full strength 10ml per liter

Nah i just mixed 5ml to a gallon that first time. They were just out of the napkins and I thought that little bit wouldn't hurt. Thanks guys for the help, I'm gonna try to use it but I'm gonna start my CV gear in peat pellets and get em up a bit before transfer. Cant stand losing seedlings, I always think that could've been the one, the Grail! Sorry for this huge post.

 

[slow drawl]

Chopped the girls at day 68, been hanging for about a week.
I did a reckless job at pollinating my Golden Nuggets and have ended up with a sprinkling of seeds randomly placed everywhere. What happens when you get seeds from an S1 crossed with a reg?
Albert Super Tramp
Cheap Thrills
Had to cut the LVTK a little earlier than expected, found a few small spots of PM on a couple leaves.
It's really nice smoke though, she's close enough to suit me....got a bag o bud

 

[thenotsoesoteric]

Chopped the girls at day 68, been hanging for about a week.
I did a reckless job at pollinating my Golden Nuggets and have ended up with a sprinkling of seeds randomly placed everywhere. What happens when you get seeds from an S1 crossed with a reg?
Albert Super TrampView attachment 4226956 View attachment 4226958
Cheap ThrillsView attachment 4226959 View attachment 4226960
Had to cut the LVTK a little earlier than expected, found a few small spots of PM on a couple leaves.
It's really nice smoke though, she's close enough to suit me....got a bag o budView attachment 4226962

Looks good man, gotta love harvest time!

 

[slow drawl]

Looks good man, gotta love harvest time!

Hey thx notso, heck yeah I've got 12 strains to smoke through this coming year.
This was as good a season as we could ever expect for this part of the country.
Shot of the LVTK definitely not the super frosty model, but the buzz is spot on, just a wonderful high..

 

[Mr Blamo]

Hey thx notso, heck yeah I've got 12 strains to smoke through this coming year.
This was as good a season as we could ever expect for this part of the country.
Shot of the LVTK definitely not the super frosty model, but the buzz is spot on, just a wonderful high..View attachment 4227029

Very nice!!
I should get my order from them this week.
Had a wonderful buying experience with Cannaventure seeds.
Rusty is a very nice person to deal with.

 

[PungentPete]

Bought 4 packs of cannaventure seeds.. LA affie, cheap thrills, arcata ghost and Albert Super Tramp.. was really pumped to do the super tramp first after seeing it..packs were perfect size as i can only grow 4 or 5 plants at a time. Only 2 of the 5 seeds germinated.. dont know what happened as i do it the same way everytime with very high rate of success.. kinda bummed me out. Thats my first exp with cannaventure.. i hope the others are not the same..

I would like to ammend this comment I made about my experience with cannaventure seeds. I continued to attempt to germinate the 3 seeds that did not open originally. After my original method of soaking overnight and then into some seedling media and not getting my usual results I took them out of the media and put them in some damp paper towels.
A few days like that with nothing happening I figured they were dead.. Last night I looked at the dead horses and they still seemed viable to me. They just wouldn't open. I picked up up each seed figuring I had nothing to loose and I pinched them until I heard the the seed crack along the seem where it should and put them back... Well I looked this morning and 2 more of the seeds now have a tap root showing. I think the seed shell was so hard that it was hampering their development and preventing it from opening up.
I would also like to apologize to @thenotsoesoteric if I offended you with my comment. It was not my intention but can see how it could be interpreted that way. Please accept my apology..
With that being said my advice is that patience is a virtue and that stepping out of the box and doing something you would not normally try can have positive results..keep an open mind and heart.... Looking forward to a great Albert Super Tramp grow... . Peace

 

[CAPT CHESAPEAKE]

Appreciate the help. Tryin to get a quick working vocabulary in Cannaventure dialect!

Usefull is doing a big drop in december at GLG if you are interested.I might buy some from him on that drop.

 

[thenotsoesoteric]

I would like to ammend this comment I made about my experience with cannaventure seeds. I continued to attempt to germinate the 3 seeds that did not open originally. After my original method of soaking overnight and then into some seedling media and not getting my usual results I took them out of the media and put them in some damp paper towels.
A few days like that with nothing happening I figured they were dead.. Last night I looked at the dead horses and they still seemed viable to me. They just wouldn't open. I picked up up each seed figuring I had nothing to loose and I pinched them until I heard the the seed crack along the seem where it should and put them back... Well I looked this morning and 2 more of the seeds now have a tap root showing. I think the seed shell was so hard that it was hampering their development and preventing it from opening up.
I would also like to apologize to @thenotsoesoteric if I offended you with my comment. It was not my intention but can see how it could be interpreted that way. Please accept my apology..
With that being said my advice is that patience is a virtue and that stepping out of the box and doing something you would not normally try can have positive results..keep an open mind and heart.... Looking forward to a great Albert Super Tramp grow... . Peace

You're good bro, glad too hear you got a couple more going. I can be a dick sometimes, dont take it personal. Cheers man

 

[socaljoe]

I would like to ammend this comment I made about my experience with cannaventure seeds. I continued to attempt to germinate the 3 seeds that did not open originally. After my original method of soaking overnight and then into some seedling media and not getting my usual results I took them out of the media and put them in some damp paper towels.
A few days like that with nothing happening I figured they were dead.. Last night I looked at the dead horses and they still seemed viable to me. They just wouldn't open. I picked up up each seed figuring I had nothing to loose and I pinched them until I heard the the seed crack along the seem where it should and put them back... Well I looked this morning and 2 more of the seeds now have a tap root showing. I think the seed shell was so hard that it was hampering their development and preventing it from opening up.
I would also like to apologize to @thenotsoesoteric if I offended you with my comment. It was not my intention but can see how it could be interpreted that way. Please accept my apology..
With that being said my advice is that patience is a virtue and that stepping out of the box and doing something you would not normally try can have positive results..keep an open mind and heart.... Looking forward to a great Albert Super Tramp grow... . Peace

Have you ever tried scuffing your seeds with sand paper before soaking? This can help if you have stubborn seeds with thick shells. Lot of people swear by it

 

[CAPT CHESAPEAKE]

Have you ever tried scuffing your seeds with sand paper before soaking? This can help if you have stubborn seeds with thick shells. Lot of people swear by it

Like This? I use it on all seeds before soak