So your willing to pay double for all their products? All the stuff your asking for is expensive. I'm pretty sure they are just trying to help growers out and innovate not be the leader of the market. A few years ago Stephen and Robin were just normal dudes on here experimenting with LED give them a break....an as far as common sense goes my common sense would say don't tape my driver's to a tent pole with painters tape even if its just for a day I guess you have a different kind of common Sense.
QB96 Elite V2 w/ SSTX heatsink question
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Stephenj37826
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The spirit of DIY is doing for yourself.. We have par charts for our complete fixtures.. I'm not real sure anyone has par charts for diy components ...
Or_Gro
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I think that comment says it all!
Thanks for the honesty.
Btw, it’s my attitude that’s doing your eff’ing job...maybe you guys just need a customer-centric attitude...what say ye?
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Or_Gro
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My point...
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Or_Gro
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I’m willing to pay for something the manufacturer alleges and stands behind...
Or_Gro
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i couldn’t give a crusty f for the diy spirit!
The purpose of all this work is to grow a weed...not to do YOUR job...
Then buy an hlg 550 you really lack common sense if you bought a bunch of diy parts and don't want to use them...
SB85
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The company was founded based on diy/making growing more affordable and simple, so really can't fault HLG for not having commercial pre built products with all the bells and whistles.
ANC
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My advice is to Stephen, I couldn't care less about your arse.
Or_Gro
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I have 2, from timber...
GreeneryBob
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I don't feel like an afterthought. How may companies do you know of that have this level of interaction with their customers? These guys have been sharing the experience of growing the company and the bumps down the road with us, listening to concerns and advice from people in the community, and are usually pretty quick to help folks learn to grow. Stephen is gracious enough to answer and return calls personally rather than assigning some call centre 'know nothing' to deal with pestering customers. I am more than happy with the service and product I have received and because of that, I recommend their product to any person or company I can.
Randomblame
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No, probably only a small amount gets absorbed but it will be converted.
Usually those silver looking tent materials have <80% reflection even if they call it mylar. The better ones have white walls which means up to 90% reflection if you keep it clean. This means at least 10-20% gets lost and is converted into heat. For this reason light feels warm and some rays gets reflected two times before they hit a leaf.
With COB's and 16-20" distance you have usually to calculate with 20% wall loss.
I would probably use even less distance without the T5 bulbs but I need at least 10-12" for even UVB coverage.
And about HLG..
Yeah, maybe not all is perfect and some things could be better.
But these company started from 0 and exsist since only a few years now and for their 2nd generation QB's they already got Samsung itself on board. I see a golden future for them... they steadily grow at a time when many US companies are not doing well.
They could give away a few boards to one of their favored customers and ask him to create a few PAR maps so that even the last one is happy. Many do it this... Theoretically you can also simulate them then the whole thing goes even faster. The most important data like efficiency and such are available for the most products... Is this perfect already? Nope, its not but the products are and thats much more important to be successful.
I'm a strip & DIY fetishist and not so long ago I had to calculate all the efficiency numbers myself. In contrast, you get today much more information. Give them some more time they have more important things to consider than PAR maps..
Stephenj37826
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He did the par maps which is appreciated I'm sure by everyone. But going off the deep end and basically trashing our company because we haven't provided par charts for diy components is all on him. @Or_Gro your par maps are appreciated but you do get a little bent out of shape sometimes.... That thread about HLG cutting off Timber comes to mind here.
Your such a fucking idiot we don't need your ghetto maps and I'm sure hlg doesn't need your couple hundred dollars. Your clearly bipolar or have some sort of mental disorder.
How does hlg even know if those number are accurate? His ghetto par map does nothing for hlg and does not warrant a thank you from them.
Nice I didn't know they did full par maps an all that crap you were crying about...
pulpoinspace
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stephenj if you need more hands in your factory i'll quit my job and come work for you!
i've built a few lights now and i gotta say i love this stuff.
spread love on the forums boys. there's enough hate out in the real world.
i've built a few lights now and i gotta say i love this stuff.
spread love on the forums boys. there's enough hate out in the real world.
maxlev
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typical?
But you had the spare surplus dosh to splash out on toys, so we could regard you as a self taught backyard cowboy expert "world leader" on QB96 elite
You gunna shoot through & hide from the cheering & rude hand gestures