This discussion leads to nothing. Yes, it could be even better, but if I look at the board and know beam angle and efficiency I don't need a PAR map. The numbers for 1 or 2 boards could have been easily estimated.
It depends on so many things like number of boards, distance from sensor, walls or not, degree of reflection if, etc., etc.
A few general PAR maps would only provide clues but says not what I would get in my own enviroment. You would need the exact same tent to get the same measurments.
The criticism itself is good, bro, only the rude undertone in which you utter them leads to endless discussions and in the end all offend each other and it is called, ehh typical RUI. Thats unneccessary and leads to nothing.
You are correct, this discussion leads to nothing. A company has to want to do the right thing for its customers, which starts with providing basic info about it’s products’ performance. I challenge anyone to show where the average pot grower can find out how these bds should be configured, positioned, or powered for even spread of intensity, for common footprints, on hlg’s site!
The argument that competitors don’t provide the info, or that performance of basic components doesn’t need to be provided, or that they have more important things going on, are just plain bs, but more importantly are lost opportunities in becomng a successful company.
I can guarantee you that hlg demands basic performance info on Samsung and Lumiled components, why shouldn’t hlg’s customers be justified in making the same demands on hlg?
And, telling a customer, who calls you on it, that they don’t deserve a straightforward answer, is just plain stupid customer service.
As far as you not needing a par map, it is completely understandable, you are practically a lighting engineer. Most mere mortals aren’t as capable as you and want the info - even if they know it may not perfectly fit their setup. Hence this and many other threads about intensity spread maps; and the interest in them, here and elsewhere - if not for any other reason than in positioning multiple light sources, which hlg has not provided the slightest info.
As for the “rude undertone”, you may be a saint, i am a pissed off customer, with legitimate concerns.
You and others may not see it, but i am actually trying to help hlg...sometimes executives need an intervention, with tough love...
Please do not address any further comments pertaining to me here, as i am done with this thread.
You know where i am if you have anything more to say to me about this or other topics.