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GreatwhiteNorth

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My favorite was in the RHIB just off the beach - probably around 1/2 mile from the pad itself. It was like being in the middle of the most intense non-stop lightning storm ever & you could feel it thundering in your thorax.

Once had an all black Huey bounce up over the berm right on top of us bristling with door gunners - they scared the living shit out of us, thank God they realized who we were.
 
BudmanTX

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GreatwhiteNorth

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BudmanTX said:
it is, very rare...

now there is a part of a science community that actually want to bring them back, it's nice to see how they are looking for them and other things. Me and the wife watched an episode of expidition unknown, where there is a company that wants the clone one and bring it back....

https://www.travelchannel.com/shows/expedition-unknown/episodes/woolly-mammoth-part-1

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The Athabaskan people of Alaska's interior still have an oral history of hunting them.
Some of the places I've seen up here I just would not be terribly surprised to see one walking around.
 
BudmanTX

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GreatwhiteNorth said:
The Athabaskan people of Alaska's interior still have an oral history of hunting them.
Some of the places I've seen up here I just would not be terribly surprised to see one walking around.
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there is another oral history out of Siberia with the people there. and it seems there is an area there where the permafrost is melting, that area is exposing more Mammoth bones and there fresh too....it in the Batagaika crater......you know you can actually see that crater in google earth......

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170223-in-siberia-there-is-a-huge-crater-and-it-is-getting-bigger
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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BudmanTX said:
it is, very rare...

now there is a part of a science community that actually want to bring them back, it's nice to see how they are looking for them and other things. Me and the wife watched an episode of expidition unknown, where there is a company that wants the clone one and bring it back....

https://www.travelchannel.com/shows/expedition-unknown/episodes/woolly-mammoth-part-1

ck it out
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that would be cool, i'd like to see a live mammoth. i know a lot of things from older eras couldn't survive with the oxygen levels we have now, but mammoths should be modern enough to adapt
 
BudmanTX

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
that would be cool, i'd like to see a live mammoth. i know a lot of things from older eras couldn't survive with the oxygen levels we have now, but mammoths should be modern enough to adapt
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hmmm how to put this......if you look at a darwinistic evolutionary approach to that, they already have, they just don't have hair, in this day we call them elephants
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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BudmanTX said:
hmmm how to put this......if you look at a darwinistic evolutionary approach to that, they already have, they just don't have hair, in this day we call them elephants
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yes, but i was referring to one of the impossibilities of jurassic park. dinosaurs would have a very hard time surviving today, because the current oxygen level is much higher than it was then. it hoverd around 30% for a long time, then it dropped down to 10 percent at the end of the Permian era. no one is sure exactly why, but it caused a massive extinction event. it has slowly risen over the last 200 million years to about 21%, which is pretty much twice the level as during the jurassic...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity.....so a cloned dinosaur would have a problem adapting to breathing twice as much oxygen as they were designed to....mammoths are more modern, and shouldn't have as much of a discrepancy to deal with......is what i meant....i'm aware of evolution.....
 
ANC

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asian elephants are weird.
I went on an elephant safari in Zimbabwe in 2000. It is an amazing feeling riding on one of these beasts.
It ripped a small tree from its roots as it walked by without even a tremor of the power carrying through its body.
It was a big 12-year-old male called Big Boy, he was a rescue from a circus.
 
cannabineer

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
that would be cool, i'd like to see a live mammoth. i know a lot of things from older eras couldn't survive with the oxygen levels we have now, but mammoths should be modern enough to adapt
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If you inspect this graph, oxygen levels for the last 10 million years have been stable. Mammoths lived from ca. 5 MYa to 10 thousand Ya. So how possibly would oxygen levels have anything to do with the fitness of a mammoth to survive? That pesky science keeps getting in the way. Mammoths would find today's climate just fine.
 
cannabineer

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
yes, but i was referring to one of the impossibilities of jurassic park. dinosaurs would have a very hard time surviving today, because the current oxygen level is much higher than it was then. it hoverd around 30% for a long time, then it dropped down to 10 percent at the end of the Permian era. no one is sure exactly why, but it caused a massive extinction event. it has slowly risen over the last 200 million years to about 21%, which is pretty much twice the level as during the jurassic...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity.....so a cloned dinosaur would have a problem adapting to breathing twice as much oxygen as they were designed to....mammoths are more modern, and shouldn't have as much of a discrepancy to deal with......is what i meant....i'm aware of evolution.....
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The dinosaurs happened after the Permian. They effectively define the Mesozoic Era. 245 to 65 MYa
 
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