honest genetics
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Amos Otis
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You sound like a cat I could support. Good instincts.Let’s be real buddy you hit me up asking for seeds because you liked the photos, talked smack, and then had it thrown back in your face. I’m not desperate for business and I certainly don’t want yours
Stiickygreen
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FWIW....I personally was talking about a general Google search. Such a search definitely brings up a lot of info/pictures on other strains/breeders/etc.
As someone without a mobile device... I don't use hashtags or IG much. IG is basically a one way platform without a phone. You can set up a page but you can't post pics on it. I realize I'm probably in the minority on all of that...but it is what it is (and it's a choice). Either way...none of the pictures you speak to on IG seem to show up outside of IG ... so while it seems to be hot and the place to be right now for many...and there are thousands of pictures/etc. THERE.....it's not a banner of any sort on the Net to sell seeds or get pics/info out there to anyone outside of IG from what I can see. For me...there's too much BS/same old commentary and "like wow man..where can i get those seeds at?" idiocy on IG when most of the seeds being talked about can be purchased in a number of ways outside of IG if the person asking would only get the fuck off IG and stop openly groveling for seeds/kissing ass/etc...
As someone without a mobile device... I don't use hashtags or IG much. IG is basically a one way platform without a phone. You can set up a page but you can't post pics on it. I realize I'm probably in the minority on all of that...but it is what it is (and it's a choice). Either way...none of the pictures you speak to on IG seem to show up outside of IG ... so while it seems to be hot and the place to be right now for many...and there are thousands of pictures/etc. THERE.....it's not a banner of any sort on the Net to sell seeds or get pics/info out there to anyone outside of IG from what I can see. For me...there's too much BS/same old commentary and "like wow man..where can i get those seeds at?" idiocy on IG when most of the seeds being talked about can be purchased in a number of ways outside of IG if the person asking would only get the fuck off IG and stop openly groveling for seeds/kissing ass/etc...
HonestGenetics
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I first got on IG when it was all starting up and it was fun for awhile. Made me stop looking at any of the forums by about 2014 when it really started to blow up with the cannabis community. I definitely made some great connections and got linked with some awesome growers over the last few years. That said, when the pages of me and so many of my grower friends started getting hit this spring, summer, and fall, it was a real kick in the balls for sure. It’s an incredible chore to go through my phone now and try to find these pictures because they don’t have labels or good organization. Luckily my memory is solid on what they are when I see them, but it’s a real pain to do it. So I have to agree with you now, it would have been awesome to just go back in time and run a backup via the forums too. Hindsight is 20/20 on that choice. I’ll be sure and post more photos on here soon. So far file uploads haven’t worked off my phone. I will most likely need to do it from my computer. I haven’t thought about Rollitup in ages, didn’t know people were still on here lol
whytewidow
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I wasn't meaning you typed it all shitty. I mean when the email showed up. It all kinds of extra characters. Html code and stuff in it. So it wasnt legible. All I could make out were the prices from 100 to 150. None of the descriptions were in the right order so it didn't make any sense. And a simple search of you shows nothing. Instead of being just like every new breeder that pops talking. Post some of your pics here of your work. Not everyone is on IG. And there's no way to prove any of what you said as truth. I was interested in some of the crosses the OP posted. But you completely turned me and any of my circle off with your attitude. Thanks for the prices listed here. Makes a tad more sense.
HonestGenetics
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whytewidow
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Hahahaha yeah I'm good on some hermie city cookies. Now you've heard of riu. An hour ago you had never heard of it. Honest genetics huh. Happy ThanksgivingIn my circle we refer to this as Trollitup, not RIU. And it’s people like you that give the site its bad name, hence me never taking a moment to get on here. Before IG I was on Overgrow, and since that was pre 2012 when I changed my name to Honest Herbal that was indeed a different name. Let’s be real buddy you hit me up asking for seeds because you liked the photos, talked smack, and then had it thrown back in your face. I’m not desperate for business and I certainly don’t want yours
Amos Otis
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Tangerine_
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Thank you @min0r for starting this thread.
I've always been curious about the work but last year the only place I saw Honest Genetics listed was GLO and I haven't ordered from Rick in awhile.
Looks like their branching out which is great, and working with nice genetics at a decent price...also great.
And thanks Honest, for coming back to RIU. It clear from your post you knew it existed, just didn't realize it was active.
Its not as trolly as people make it out to be. Avoid the politics section and the scammers and just keeping doing your thing and let your work speak for itself.
After checking the pics on IG, that shouldn't be a problem at all.
I've always been curious about the work but last year the only place I saw Honest Genetics listed was GLO and I haven't ordered from Rick in awhile.
Looks like their branching out which is great, and working with nice genetics at a decent price...also great.
And thanks Honest, for coming back to RIU. It clear from your post you knew it existed, just didn't realize it was active.
Its not as trolly as people make it out to be. Avoid the politics section and the scammers and just keeping doing your thing and let your work speak for itself.
After checking the pics on IG, that shouldn't be a problem at all.
HonestGenetics
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You were saying something about no way to prove I’m telling the truth?... it’s called pictures. I took this particular photo of my phone right after clearing all my old posts out and then making several new posts that I thought would better fit IGs terms. But now I know the terms aren’t the issue, it’s the trolls. I know exactly why you weren’t aware of my pages btw, you were blocked because it was reported to me that you were scamming breeders and doing chargebacks with seedbanks. I actually forgot about you until a user on here messaged and reminded me of your reputation. Sounds like you should worry about your own reputation instead of mine
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whytewidow
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Lol that's funny. I have never bought a pack of beans off of IG. Not one. Lmfao. How would one do a chargeback or whatever if you've never bought beans. I run nothing but testers. And have for years. Or my own crosses. So try again.
Edit: But you can leave me blocked. I can see the only person growing out your gear. And I'm good. Lmfao. I'd rather run the testers I run. Happy Turkey day. And I'm not a breeder. I've never sold a pack of seeds. I give my shit out for free. Always have. I'm a chucker. Nothing more.
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HonestGenetics
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Yeah, I was for sure aware of Rollitup, I’d never heard the RIU acronym but after thinking about it for a few minutes today I was like wait, rollitup? I honestly had no idea anyone was still on here. I wish I had known that, could have saved a few years worth of photo references lol. I’ll make an effort over the coming weeks to start making more posts here as well as on my newest IG account. To be real it’s been kinda a pain in the ass each time I’ve had to start the account over and it’s made me less passionate about using IG. Especially having so many of my grow friends get their pages ripped down as well, it’s like starting from scratch, it just takes so much of the fun out of it!
Anyways, I would love to help you out, I absolutely understand that people have had issues with Ricky in the past, and I also refuse to stock other seedbanks because of some issues I’ve had with them and huge numbers of customer issues stemming from their lack of attention to their customers.
It’s easier for me to cut out the middlemen and offer direct sales. Which I believe is probably rocking the boat with a lot of these guys. Contact me directly if you want anything, I’m always happy to help
whytewidow
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Let's see this message of me doing chargebacks to seedbanks or whatever. Let's see it. Either put it up or stfu. Bc that's straight bullshit.
whytewidow
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Lmfao. I'd have to make a bunch of seeds wouldnt I. To do charge back n shit. Be really hard in my little tiny personal grow area. That i cant even stand all the way up in. I have never sold anything in my life. I TEST. And everything I've been shipped to test has and is tested. Not one breeder has ever said anything to me. About not popping anything. And I test for quite a few. Some have over 500k followers. But I did figure out your strains. You're part of greenline. Ripoffs like no other. I KNEW I KNEW YOU FROM SOMEWHERE. LMFAO. I KNEW IT. And alot of your strains are the exact same. Jus named differently. That's exactly where you come from. Honest genetics. Greenline one in the same. Funny his ol ladys psgs just got hit too.
Edit: and I said post where I did a charge back. Not something someone typed. You could've typed that in fukn memo. Or one of the people on here that I dont get along with. Idrc. Show me where I did any business with a seedbank. Please I will give you my entire seed collection. Which I can bet ya is alot bigger than yours. But that's here nor there. Show me where anyone has even carried any strain with my logo on it. Bc its everywhere, but not one in a sale or purchase. I'm waiting greenline.
Edit: and I said post where I did a charge back. Not something someone typed. You could've typed that in fukn memo. Or one of the people on here that I dont get along with. Idrc. Show me where I did any business with a seedbank. Please I will give you my entire seed collection. Which I can bet ya is alot bigger than yours. But that's here nor there. Show me where anyone has even carried any strain with my logo on it. Bc its everywhere, but not one in a sale or purchase. I'm waiting greenline.
HonestGenetics
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You’ve had every single statement thrown back in your face already with proof to back it. You also clearly cannot read very well. Greenline is most definitely a friend of mine, I’ve already addressed that on here as well as his problems he’s personally had that I am unrelated to. There are literally thousands of people who have met us both at shows and we live and operate businesses in separate states. You are a troll, plain and simple, I’m not even taking the time to respond to you anymore, so go ahead and take the last word, I don’t need it, it’s obvious to anyone who takes the time and reads this stuff who the fraud is
whytewidow
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Hahahaha I know exactly who that is. From the GPS thread. But yeah I'm so good I can threaten people to send me seeds. Lmfao. That jus doesnt even make sense. If I threaten you, are you gonna send me seeds. Hahahahaha. That's why I like weed. Bc it makes you laugh. Well I had a great Turkey day. With all my seeds people send me bc I threatened them. Hahahahahaha. We all had turkey and ham. And jus chuckled.....
whytewidow
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You’ve had every single statement thrown back in your face already with proof to back it. You also clearly cannot read very well. Greenline is most definitely a friend of mine, I’ve already addressed that on here as well as his problems he’s personally had that I am unrelated to. There are literally thousands of people who have met us both at shows and we live and operate businesses in separate states. You are a troll, plain and simple, I’m not even taking the time to respond to you anymore, so go ahead and take the last word, I don’t need it, it’s obvious to anyone who takes the time and reads this stuff who the fraud is
Yeah and you stole their strains changed the name. And used them as your own. Shitty thing to do to a friend. But hey its whatever. You have yourself great rest of your evening. Cheers.
420nstargazer
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@HonestGenetics
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but weren't you GLO's 'in-house breeder', for lack of a better term? Seems like I remember the name. But I for sure remember your gear on their site. Which leads me to......
You do realize you constantly contradict yourself, right?
........
If this is the case, then why the hostility towards GPS (I'm not defending gu or his practices) when you had a low germ rate a while back? I think there was another issue you made up back then also, but it escapes me.
If they were testers, since you "run nothing but testers", then isn't finding low germ rates part of your job description, not a way of trying to use it to angle for free seeds?
I say this with no hostility, only genuine concern....you need to research bipolar disorder.
Best of luck on your grows!!
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but weren't you GLO's 'in-house breeder', for lack of a better term? Seems like I remember the name. But I for sure remember your gear on their site. Which leads me to......
Sorry man, there's no way you hadn't heard of him when you first reached out to him if you're as in as you say you are.
You do realize you constantly contradict yourself, right?
........
If this is the case, then why the hostility towards GPS (I'm not defending gu or his practices) when you had a low germ rate a while back? I think there was another issue you made up back then also, but it escapes me.
If they were testers, since you "run nothing but testers", then isn't finding low germ rates part of your job description, not a way of trying to use it to angle for free seeds?
I say this with no hostility, only genuine concern....you need to research bipolar disorder.
Best of luck on your grows!!
HonestGenetics
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I wondered if he realized his contradictions too. And he responded to things that weren’t even said quite a few times. Made me question his overall sanity...
Anyways, I have somewhat addressed that question already in my previous posts but I’ll more directly and in depth answer this time so that it can be squashed for good. I absolutely did not breed Orange Tree, Bananimal, High-C, or any other Greenline Seed Company strain. That work was all done by Ricky and Amber who are the team behind Greenline Organics Nursery as well as Greenline Organics Seed Company. They are engaged and have been a couple for about a decade now. People tend to like speaking to Amber more than Ricky because Amber is a total sweetheart and she puts more of an effort into customers who reach out to her.
Ricky is known for having a Massachusetts attitude and being a bit blunt with people. We are the products of our upbringing after all.
So to clarify something that’s a huge misnomer in the IG/cannabis community, I personally have never “Ghost Bred” strains for anyone else. And that includes Greenline. Our work actually focuses on pretty different stuff, I use a lot of Moms that I hunted myself that no one else has access to. There’s also stuff I bred and work with that I have never shared. Ricky only just recently got gifted my Chocolate Frosting mother and my Blue Hurricane mother as well, hence why no strains have been made by him with those yet whereas I have a lot of stuff made with both Moms already. I haven’t yet shared with the community a ton of projects I’ve been working the last two years. I’m still doing rigorous testing on them and I only release stuff when I’m personally super proud of the results.
Anyways....
Probably three things confuse people about GL and I more than anything.
#1 a post made by Relentless a couple years ago when he and Ricky had a falling out. He brought me into that one for some reason and claimed we were the same guy. Which was asinine behavior on his part since he knew for a fact we weren’t and had tried to contact me to arbitrate with GL on his behalf prior to that. And I told him to man up and squash his own beef and that I wasn’t trying to be involved. I also told him that Greenline had mad respect for him and his work(which was true at that time). Relentless tried to tell me he would set me up over at Seeds Here Now if I would ditch Greenline Organics Seedbank entirely. I said absolutely not and only after that did Relentless block me and make his post I later heard about and was given snapshots of. Which was just immature behavior. One thing Ricky and I absolutely have in common is a sense of loyalty. Greenline regardless of any personal beef he’s had in fact gave me the biggest bump of any other person in the whole entire industry. He will always be my friend for that reason, I can only treat people based on the way they personally have treated me and in my world Ricky is a solid dude. He definitely dropped the ball on customer service at one point for a long time but he’s also running five other companies. I mean how many people are even aware that he’s in the Avocado import business? Or that he’s 10% owner of DipNdabs? Or part owner of three other businesses that isn’t even Greenline Organics? I personally think he just bit off more than he could chew and he got bad at packaging and sending orders out in a timely manner. I hear a lot better things from people nowadays and Ricky tells me he sends out once a week these days as well.
#2 Is his oldest IG was listed on the back of my seed packaging. At that time the logic there was pretty simple. He was my sole distributor and so I wanted people to know where to go to get my gear and see reposts of it. People could go to his page, open his website and have a direct link to my wares. Back then I didn’t deal directly to customers or with any other bank. And my later Seedbank dealings were something of a mess and I ended up taking care of many of their customers for them. In absolute retrospect I should have made a smaller order on that packaging but they tempt you with lowering the overall price by buying more on those deals. My newest packaging that will be ready in late January is going to make things more clear that I am just me and no one else.
#3 and probably the source of the most confusion of all was at the 2016 Emerald Cup Greenline had prepared his Orange Tree S1 Seeds as well as some Cherry Pie crosses. However Shatterlabels had dropped the ball on getting his packaging order done on time. Ricky and I have been friends for a long time, our friendship actually preceded his seedbank. He’s always been a really solid guy to me and anyone who ever had a concern with him that told me about it later said it was taken care of. However not usually in a very timely manner and that almost always was the issue brought to my attention. Anyways he didn’t have his own packaging and wanted to release his new lines at Emerald Cup and asked me if I was ok with them going out in Honest Genetics packaging since I had a ton of mylars already. I remember at the time I quipped to him something like “they better not suck Ricky” which was just my way of saying yes lol. In retrospect I wish I’d told him to put those out in small ziplocks with stickers from stickermule or something since that could have been assembled in a few days short notice but I didn’t. Hindsight is definitely 20/20 in my experience. I didn’t encounter the confusion lasting over two years out from that lmao
Anyways, that’s the long answer to your question. The short is just no.
Bananimal actually was bred before I even met Ricky. He had those seeds ready a couple years before he even grew them out. And Orange Tree was made shortly after I met him. I remember talking with GL for hours on end over the phone back in the day about our different breeding strategies and traits we felt were stuff to watch out for. And honestly he and I don’t always agree on certain things, but his work is a lot better than most I see. I can’t speak from growing his lines personally(we actually rarely share our personal creations lol), but he definitely breeds some fire because I’ve smoked tons of flower samples from Greenline Organics Nursery and it was some fuego!
That all said, I did breed DipNdots. For some reason people forget that one was actually mine and credit GL instead. Ricky did the pheno hunt on that one and sold a clone of it that got passed around for awhile. I actually wasn’t completely thrilled with DipNdots and it was released to only a handful of growers. I’m pretty sure my homie DifferentShadesOfGreen has most of those packs and still hasn’t popped them, he even got some other packs gifted to him from my other homie Stickwicketz lol. I personally am estatic about Chocolate Frosted Sherbert, it has very similar genetics and I feel that one I just nailed it 1000%
I hope that was a clear and concise answer to your question lol, sorry for the lengthy response it took hahaha
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HonestGenetics
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Just wanted to say, I definitely appreciate you taking the time to preserve some of my photos and share them on here. Hopefully now that we’ve gotten my life story outta the way we can keep this forum about my actual strains lmao.
So again, thanks! I always appreciate knowing people out there are real fans of the work being done and I can tell that you took the actual time to follow me and save photos from GadsdenGardens page before he got hit. That guy is a buddy of mine and I’ve been to his gardens in Portland personally, he does an excellent job with my strains. Pretty soon he’s gonna be rocking a whole new list of cuts from my work as well