RDWC and LEDs: Various strains

[firsttimeARE]

Yeah I started from seed and I struggle from seed.

I recently bought clonex as the guy at the hydro store told me just diluting the veg recipe wasn't ideal.

It was like $23 for a liter though and it takes 200ml to get the multi site to 0.6 EC so I'm going to look into the truthfulness of his statement and limit it to just the 17 and 5 gal cloners I have. This way I'm not going through it so fast.

 

[firsttimeARE]

In my opion that is too cold.
If I was you, I should get a heater.
But before people get angry... it is an opinion. Based on science, but still an opinion.

Well when the weather was warmer and the res was 71F I was still getting the Mg def.

I think my K and Ca levels may be too high and limiting the Mg absorption since they are antagonists to Mg on the Mulder's Chart

 

[fragileassassin]

Yeah I started from seed and I struggle from seed.

I recently bought clonex as the guy at the hydro store told me just diluting the veg recipe wasn't ideal.

It was like $23 for a liter though and it takes 200ml to get the multi site to 0.6 EC so I'm going to look into the truthfulness of his statement and limit it to just the 17 and 5 gal cloners I have. This way I'm not going through it so fast.

Heres a link to the my post about mine.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/diy-cloner-looking-for-feedback.977305/

I didnt dip them in any kind of gel or anything like that. Just had to dump that stuff in the water and let it go until theyre ready to transplant.
The KLN stuff I used was fairly cheap. I spent under $25 for both it and the pro-tekt stuff they say to use with it and the 2 small bottles should be enough to do 3 sets of clones with 7 gallons of water in my cloner.

 

[smokebros]

Yeah I started from seed and I struggle from seed.

I recently bought clonex as the guy at the hydro store told me just diluting the veg recipe wasn't ideal.

It was like $23 for a liter though and it takes 200ml to get the multi site to 0.6 EC so I'm going to look into the truthfulness of his statement and limit it to just the 17 and 5 gal cloners I have. This way I'm not going through it so fast.

You can absolutely use your normal nutrients at a .60 EC.

 

[smokebros]

Very nice grow by the way, I'm subbing up.

 

[firsttimeARE]

You can absolutely use your normal nutrients at a .60 EC.

Yeah he had me convinced my nutrients were too strong. But it's like I just need to feed more of the 1-0.5-1

After I'm done with my mix I'mma buy the MOST from Jack's and use my MKP, K2NO3, K2SO4, MgSO4, CaNO3 this way I have more control over ratios.

Very nice grow by the way, I'm subbing up.

Thank you. Welcome aboard

 

[firsttimeARE]

I don't know why I struggle so much. I never know how much to feed them. I either give them too much or too little or don't know. They always grow slow and the leaves get distorted.

I see other people feeding high from seed and I try and they stall out. So I lower and then they look hungry and stall out.

Clones are much easier.

Some people feed seeds as much as I feed 4ft. Plants. I don't get it. I may try RO water.

 

[zypheruk]

use a week bloom feed in the cloner when the little nubs show and they will do great.

 

[firsttimeARE]

use a week bloom feed in the cloner when the little nubs show and they will do great.

Why a bloom feed?

 

[Airwalker16]

I fit about 17-20 gal in each 27 gal tote. My netpots aren't deep, maybe 3.5-4" deep.

I need a smaller pump. The difference in water level on the control bucket is much lower than the sites and the pump gurgles after a week or less depending on stage of growth. I'd rather not top off that often.

The 150 is when I add a couple sites. That's at 17gal per. I need to get a water meter so I can see how much I do put in.

I recently switched from my 1600 to my 800gph and the flow seems the same and there's no hum now.

 

[Airwalker16]

@fragileassassin I just found out too, that the 1600GPH pump I reccomended to you is also able to work as an INLINE PUMP. I wish I'd known that sooner I could have built my system like a normal undercurrent and pulled from the return pipes for my waterfalls rather than from my res.

 

[fragileassassin]

@fragileassassin I just found out too, that the 1600GPH pump I reccomended to you is also able to work as an INLINE PUMP. I wish I'd known that sooner I could have built my system like a normal undercurrent and pulled from the return pipes for my waterfalls rather than from my res.

THIS IS FANTASTIC NEWS!!
Im building that veg setup with 3.5 gal buckets and was wondering if id be able to just set the pump up inline on the drain pipe under it instead of using a control bucket.
I want to put the buckets on a raised table with the holes through the bottoms of the bucket and just running the pipes through the table too. My water stays fairly cool without the chiller on so im going to try the veg buckets with no chiller and see how it goes so doing the pumps inline helps a bit with water temps too.

I went with 2x 1200gph ones in the big system and have them turned down to ~800. Was thinking of picking another 800 up for the 12 bucket veg setup.

 

[Airwalker16]

THIS IS FANTASTIC NEWS!!
Im building that veg setup with 3.5 gal buckets and was wondering if id be able to just set the pump up inline on the drain pipe under it instead of using a control bucket.
I want to put the buckets on a raised table with the holes through the bottoms of the bucket and just running the pipes through the table too. My water stays fairly cool without the chiller on so im going to try the veg buckets with no chiller and see how it goes so doing the pumps inline helps a bit with water temps too.

I went with 2x 1200gph ones in the big system and have them turned down to ~800. Was thinking of picking another 800 up for the 12 bucket veg setup.

I almost used the 3.5s for the sheer simplicity of transferring to the big setup, but they wouldn't fit in my space. I'm quite pleased with the 2gals though I'll be honest. Only use like 10-13 gals in the whole thing. And it is on an inline. A 350gph. I'm not sure if the ones you have do inline conversion, but I realized the other day, behind the removable grate on the front, the inlet has threads on it that fit the fittings that came with it.

 

[Airwalker16]

I'm just pissed I didn't know the sooner. My entire setup would be different most likely. Res would be down at the end of the lines of 4 buckets rather than outside and inbetween the 2X2 buckets sites.

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[5BY5LEC]

I like your bluelab meter. Do you find that it is accurate on PPM's? I wonder about mine.

Waterfalls work just as well as air stones do. People will always disagree or just Like having stones, but there really is no need at all for an air pump in an RDWC system.

Hahaha people like me. I will admit though, my stones stunk when I pulled them out the last grow. Like a fish. Surprised they didn't foul the whole thing up.

 

[Airwalker16]

I like your bluelab meter. Do you find that it is accurate on PPM's? I wonder about mine.

Hahaha people like me. I will admit though, my stones stunk when I pulled them out the last grow. Like a fish. Surprised they didn't foul the whole thing up.

Get rid of them dude..

 

[5BY5LEC]

I am going to try some glass bonded stones with this et100 I got for cheap. I just kinda like the pump, like you said. A ford/chevy type thing, I suppose.

 

[Airwalker16]

You got a Linear Air Pump?! Fuck man I'm so jealous. Is it ridiculously quiet and massively powerful?

 

[firsttimeARE]

I have an AP100 from danner that I haven't even used yet due to the manifold having such large size nozzle and my air tubing is of a different size. Weird.

 

[Airwalker16]

I have an AP100 from danner that I haven't even used yet due to the manifold having such large size nozzle and my air tubing is of a different size. Weird.

Lol because it's for a manifold, Ya dork.