thumper60
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boy i would be more than happy to pull the trigger on that POS right in front of his wife an kids
Veterans...Get the hell in here now!
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doublejj
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most soldiers in wars are considered war criminals by the other side...
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BarnBuster
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Yes JJ, Japanese naval doctrine at the time rigidly followed the Mahan principal of naval warfare which stated you destroy capital warships and didn't consider support, repair or fueling facilities as worthy or even necessary targets to consider. Yamamoto (who had spent considerable time in the US) understood their significance but Nagumo was in charge. There was speculation about a third wave of planned attacks but I don't remember or know how true that idea was. By the end of the war the IJN was pumping Borneo light crude directly from the ground into the ships' bunkers. BBThe Japanese made their biggest mistake of WWII at Pearl Harbor. Of all the possible targets for their 100's of planes they failed to hit the massive fuel storage tanks. It would have taken the us 2-3 years to replenish that fuel and would have limited the US ability to wage war in the pacific for many years. The Japanese would have ruled all of the pacific by then....
This by Admiral Nimitz as remembered re: Pearl Harbor by Mary Nimitz, Chester's youngest child:
"Mistake number one : The Japanese attacked on Sunday morning. Nine out of every ten crewmen of those ships were ashore on leave. If those same ships had been lured to sea and been sunk--we would have lost 38,000 men instead of 3,800.
Mistake number two : When the Japanese saw all those battleships lined in a row, they got so carried away sinking those battleships, they never once bombed our dry docks opposite those ships. If they had destroyed our dry docks, we would have had to tow every one of those ships to America to be repaired. As it is now, the ships are in shallow water and can be raised. One tug can pull them over to the dry docks, and we can have them repaired and at sea by the time we could have towed them to America. And I already have crews ashore anxious to man those ships.
Mistake number three : Every drop of fuel in the Pacific theater of war is in top of the ground storage tanks five miles away over that hill. One attack plane could have strafed those tanks and destroyed our fuel supply. That's why I say the Japanese made three of the biggest mistakes an attack force could make or God was taking care of America."
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too larry
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The Japanese learned their lessons from us. We went into Manila Bay April 30, 1898 and laid waste to the Spanish Pacific fleet. Not exactly at anchor, since Dewey did trigger a couple of mines on the way in, but in no shape for a real fight. Teddy and his Rough Riders got all the ink, but the war was over when Dewey found out the message saying only 15 rounds per gun were left should have said only 15 rounds per gun had been used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Manila_Bay
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Manila_Bay
I'd rather be lucky than good.
thumper60
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tell ya what mister soldier any one who told me to kill people that aren't trying to kill me!! I kill him first then take what comes!!
BarnBuster
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mais bien sûr mon
doublejj
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a lot of fragging went on in Vietnam and not all of it was directed at officers. If your buddies can't count on you, you're a dead man walking. You will be walking a lot of point. Military service isn't for everyone, some people were better off going to canada. If your CO found out that you weren't cutting it in the field, you might get lucky and just burn shit in the rear for a year.
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Singlemalt
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LOL
thumper60
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iam a free thinking self employed old man. I would rather burn shit than burn people back to the Nazi posta lot of fragging went on in Vietnam and not all of it was directed at officers. If your buddies can't count on you, you're a dead man walking. You will be walking a lot of point. Military service isn't for everyone, some people were better off going to canada. If your CO found out that you weren't cutting it in the field, you might get lucky and just burn shit in the rear for a year.
I bumped into this clip this morning.
It amazes me that some people can be so heroic and selfless.
I owe this man a debit I could never repay & yet had still never heard of him before.
RIP 1st Lt. Fox
It amazes me that some people can be so heroic and selfless.
I owe this man a debit I could never repay & yet had still never heard of him before.
RIP 1st Lt. Fox
haight
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That story brought tears to my eyes too
Army Spc. Alec Alcoser wipes away tears as he is reunited with his dog Alex at Audie L. Murphy Memorial VA Hospital, Friday, Sept. 14, 2018, in San Antonio, Texas. Alcoser was a military dog handler who suffered a traumatic brain injury and his dog lost a leg after they were hit by the blast of a suicide bomber in Afghanistan Aug. 5. Currently, Alcoser is receiving care at the VA's polytrauma unit, while Alex is rehabilitating at Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland. (Josie Norris/The San Antonio Express-News via AP)
Six weeks ago, Army Spc. Alec Alcoser and his working dog, Alex, turned the corner of a narrow street outside Bagram Airfield just after dawn and saw a young Afghan coming toward them.
Suddenly, they were enveloped by a bright flash. Alex yelped. Alcoser went down. The dusty, smoky air turned yellow and orange and a firefight broke out. The dog stayed at his side.
"I would yell at him and his ears would twitch, but he wouldn't look at me," said Alcoser, 22, of San Antonio. "I think he was in a state of shock. He didn't growl, he didn't bark, he didn't cry. He stayed right there."
On Friday, they were together once more, this time at the South Texas Veterans Health Care System's Polytrauma Rehabilitation Center. It was an emotional reunion, with the Harlandale High School graduate wiping tears from his eyes at one point and Alex licking his face.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/09/17/wounded-soldier-and-his-injured-military-dog-are-together-again-recovering-in-texas/
haight
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Uncommon valor was a common virtue
haight
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What did you expect from a couple of draft dodgers?Neither trump or pence attended the Veterans Day observance at Arlington on Veterans Day....smh
Olive Drab Green
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Been there. 5 gallons of JP-8, and you have to float the match/lit paper on a turd because it isn’t like gasoline where it ignites at the right concentration of fumes, it has to warm up first. Take a picket and stir every 5-10 minutes.a lot of fragging went on in Vietnam and not all of it was directed at officers. If your buddies can't count on you, you're a dead man walking. You will be walking a lot of point. Military service isn't for everyone, some people were better off going to canada. If your CO found out that you weren't cutting it in the field, you might get lucky and just burn shit in the rear for a year.
doublejj
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One of the few perks of being a medic....I never had to burn shit.......or walk point
Olive Drab Green
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I always tended for forget Doc wasn’t 11B. He did everything we did, and whatever the rotation for the platoon was, if they/we/whatever squad or SKT or two were going out, so was he. I have nothing but respect for all Medics and Corpsmen. They’re just grunts with angel wings and morphine.
Now that you mentioned it, I don’t recall him burning shit, though. Lucky bastard.
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doublejj
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After my first big firefight everybody in my unit got a CIB except me.....and they were hella shooting at me!....smh
Olive Drab Green
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I hate when that happens. Like, both drawing fire and people getting overlooked on their awards. I thought it was funny, when I first heard the zings and shit, I was like “Hey, they sound like they do in the cartoons!” Then you had quite a few guys who probably should have gotten certain awards by most accounts and were denied by command or otherwise ignored. I feel you.