Big Perm
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How is your basement 76 degrees in Ontario?
Fighting Nasty Root Rot
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FruityHigh
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I will post a high-quality picture later today around 5 or 6 p.m.
FruityHigh
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Because the furnace is there. I think it about 20 feet down the temperature of the earth is pretty consistent around 60 to 70 Fahrenheit in most of North America.
Big Perm
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Ok, do you mind me posting some pics of my setup here?
FruityHigh
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Go ahead
Big Perm
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I grow in my basement, too.
I covered the windows with plywood, and sealed them.
On one window I put a vent. and a fan with a temp controller on it. The fan also has speed control. I have the fan blow in ice cold air from outside to cool my room. The temp control makes it really nice. I found that 72 works best for my room and my tent temps are 75 lights on.
My furnace and water heater are right here, too.
I put up a quick wall, nothing fancy just to split my room off.
The grow room is becoming the man cave. Don't make fun of it or judge it yet I'm still working on it, lol. (I have computer fans coming for the air pump)
That window vent blows the ice cold air on my water tubs, it keeps them pretty cool. No ac, no chiller. I think that fan is pulling 40 watts when it is running.
There are cheap good ways to fix it, we just need to find yours. Can you do anything like pull in cool outside air and block off your grow area?
FruityHigh
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Okay so the situation is dire again, despite the thousands I sunk into this project. I'm really losing hope here guys. I've done everything I can. Hydrogaurd (used all my supply just about, 1 quart in a month), cooling even making a hole through the floor for the intake outside to keep res temps less than 72, plugging light leaks with insulation reflective wrap, foil tape, and even spray painting my yellow lids a base coat of black than white to keep res chilly. The rot is back as strong as ever. 
20 hours since res change:
This is an amazing setup. I have the same totes but spray painted the lids to block light. My basement has no windows. I have not separated the basement with a wall. Amazing work though. I'm jealous!
The res temp never rises above 72. I use the same inline fan / thermo trigger setup as you do for the air to keep the tent and res low directly.
20 hours since res change:
This is an amazing setup. I have the same totes but spray painted the lids to block light. My basement has no windows. I have not separated the basement with a wall. Amazing work though. I'm jealous!
The res temp never rises above 72. I use the same inline fan / thermo trigger setup as you do for the air to keep the tent and res low directly.
FruityHigh
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GH Flora series and GH calimag
shawnery
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Is it snoty and do dark roots remove easily?
It also seems from the picture that you have very little lateral root growth. To me this seems like a clear sign of root issues.
Have you chlorine cleaned with hot water? Have you done the same with your airstones? Basically you need to sterilize EVERYTHING that touches what ever touches your roots.
By the way, Hydroguard is not going to work when you already have a thriving colony of bad bacteria, next swap add some pool shock or chlorine if you can't get it.
It also seems from the picture that you have very little lateral root growth. To me this seems like a clear sign of root issues.
Have you chlorine cleaned with hot water? Have you done the same with your airstones? Basically you need to sterilize EVERYTHING that touches what ever touches your roots.
By the way, Hydroguard is not going to work when you already have a thriving colony of bad bacteria, next swap add some pool shock or chlorine if you can't get it.
Big Perm
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Don't give up on it, even if you lose these. You've got a lot of $ in it, you just have to fine tune it. I wish I was able to just come over and help fix it, lol. If your res temps were 72 over the past 20 hours and it came back that hard that means you didn't get rid of it. Did you clean it, too? How fresh is that bottle of hydroguard? It should be doing a better job than that.
@JohnDee What do you think? This one is a head scratcher.
@JohnDee What do you think? This one is a head scratcher.
Bubblin
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That's a complete load of shit, but please feel free to provide non BroScience based sources backing up your claim.
Big Perm
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I'd definitely start right now by taking plants out and putting the roots in some clean water with hydrogen peroxide while you clean everything in on around the tubs with bleach water. Then let your system run for a while with bleach water in it. Then run a few tubs of just water in it to rinse it out. Fill it back up like normal and put the plants back and try again.
Big Perm
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and do they stink like a wet basement?
FruityHigh
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So what you're saying is I have to sterilize the Res? Don't the roots have their own colony or film in the res and sterilizing the res will kill it all? Roots do not move easily.
I have not yet sterilized the res I was under the impression during a natural res (non-sterile) you don't do that or you kill the roots established territory etc. (same reason you only top off res when roots are young?) Hydroguard, southern ag and all that other good stuff including Orca (EVERY ALTERNATIVE) is nearly fucking impossible to get in Canada. Hyudroguard goes for 50 quart / 100 gallon before shipping and you'd be lucky to get one from late 2017 (mine is dec 2017). Southern ag, orca same story. I'm really out of options almost......
Thanks for coming back dude. I'm well aware of the hydro vs southern ag etc. spats going on. World war stoner.
Can the water with nutes from 20 hours ago be saved or scrap them? Its a big res so that's a lot of nutes... won't sterilization disturb what little environment the roots have established? During res changes, I do suck out all the old water weekly and replace with fresh water and nutes.
My smelling ability is not good but they do have a scent.
Big Perm
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In the beginning that would be true, sterile and beneficial bacteria don't jive. But you're past that point now, and have to kill the bacteria.
FruityHigh
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So I should run a sterile res now??? Fuck hydroguard, southern ag, orca, z7 etc??? I don't want to feed my plants chlorine in such high doses ;-;
Why is this happening :l. All those beneficial bateria start at 100 for the smallest amount in Canada too... So what do I do - poolshock?
Big Perm
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Pool shock and all that is out of my league. I can't help you there.
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