Best light on the market ?

[Kingrow1]

My grow space is a little different than others. My space is sunken from the rest of the area. The CO2 collects in the sunken area, when the lights come on, fans move the CO2 up and across the canopy. CO2 comes from decaying plants and animals. Soil breaking by healthy microbes creates more than average CO2.
My whole living area is high in CO2, because I burn propane for heat. I actually get way too much CO2. It's been as high as 3000ppms. I have to keep a window open at times.

Ok dude, catching co2 in a pit then recirculating for a day, ya i just grow dank with a bag of soil bottle of ferts and a lot of wattage, simple huh

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

Ok dude, catching co2 in a pit then recirculating for a day, ya i just grow dank with a bag of soil bottle of ferts and a lot of wattage, simple huh

CO2 is heavier than air so it falls to the floor, then you can recirculate the CO2.
But ok, you win. I give up Mr. King of RIU.

 

[ANC]

I think an LED grower stole his girlfriend or something.
He is like on a permanent mission to try and talk them down, while the rest of us are growing perfectly good weed with it.

 

[1212ham]

These light threads always go the same way lol
The best light just like the best grow method is whatever works best for the person and their situation.
That fact always gets ignored and people end up arguing over their opinions. LED and HIDs both grow great weed and both have their applications.
Anything else on the subject is simply chest puffing.
Cheers

Exactly, there is no "best light on the market", it's all about the light that best fits your situation!

 

[1212ham]

Simply a case of led mofos not finishing what they started, the difference between them and me is i finish what i start dear boy...

Are you referring to your pissing and bitching, or do you actually have something useful to say? What have you contributed to this discussion?

 

[1212ham]

Nah. Wanting to upgrade to 5×5 room later , maybe less heat would be nice so I won't have to worry about extracting..

LED will reduce heat and cost less to operate, but they cost considerably more up front. $1500 will get you an excellent LED for a 5x5. Post over in the LED section if you are interested.

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

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LED will reduce heat and cost less to operate, but they cost considerably more up front. $1500 will get you an excellent LED for a 5x5. Post over in the LED section if you are interested.

Plus, HPS are great lights, no one is dogging them. I have a closet full of ballasts and Hortilux Eyes I have used over the years. There is a pile of $$$ lying there. More than enough to pay for all my "other" lights.. When you can actually "see" the pile of $$$ lying there in front of you, it makes you think.

 

[budman111]

I grow in the attic and in the winter I am forced to add incandescent 60w light to increase the temp.

Tube heating will give a lot more heat per W than incandescent lighting.

 

[1212ham]

Plus, HPS are great lights, no one is dogging them.

My Bridgelux strip light grows just fine, but I'm actually considering HPS. I need the heat in winter and spend to much on the dehumidifier during summer.
Now I'm thinking of just running in the winter with HPS or going to a box made of foam insulation and running the LED. Or both LED and HPS.

Reminds me of aqn interesting thread... https://www.rollitup.org/t/led-vs-hps-growing.949980/page-41#post-14565388

 

[shushubandora]

No ones whinning, this is merely fact, you dont like being on the recieving end about as much as we dont like led mofos dronning on.

Until you droned on this argument never existed, smelling any coffee yet or still being an led nazi on a site of friendly growers?

I m suprised that in a weed growing forum ppl refuse to smoke something and chill out

 

[Johnny Lawrence]

Who knows what the best light is but we know who the most arrogant growers are when it comes to a discussion....Led Mofos

^ LOL @ your second post in the thread way back on page 2

Quit projecting.

 

[Budley Doright]

False. There are a ton of threads in the LED subsection in which people discuss thermal management. You're the guy spreading fake info.

I think the biggest issues are the comments like “don’t need to worry about heat”, “you’ll get 15% more yield” that are causing issues and confusion. Again I haven’t tried them but I do have a strong suspicion these comments are not the reality. I’m sure they are great at growing plants though, as seen by the pics I’ve seen.

My grow space is a little different than others. My space is sunken from the rest of the area. The CO2 collects in the sunken area, when the lights come on, fans move the CO2 up and across the canopy. CO2 comes from decaying plants and animals. Soil breaking by healthy microbes creates more than average CO2.
My whole living area is high in CO2, because I burn propane for heat. I actually get way too much CO2. It's been as high as 3000ppms. I have to keep a window open at times.

You really need to do something about that. A high CO2 environment is not healthy jsyk. So your heating with unvented appliances? At 3000 there would be incomplete combustion so now you have CO. And thank you but I do know how CO2 is produced and typical grows do not raise CO2 to those levels as the plants offset that with O2 production, that’s why I was questioning your levels but I suspected your producing those levels from other sources like you have stated.

 

[Budley Doright]

Tube heating will give a lot more heat per W than incandescent lighting.

How?

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

I think the biggest issues are the comments like “don’t need to worry about heat”, “you’ll get 15% more yield” that are causing issues and confusion. Again I haven’t tried them but I do have a strong suspicion these comments are not the reality. I’m sure they are great at growing plants though, as seen by the pics I’ve seen.

You really need to do something about that. A high CO2 environment is not healthy jsyk. So your heating with unvented appliances? At 3000 there would be incomplete combustion so now you have CO. And thank you but I do know how CO2 is produced and typical grows do not raise CO2 to those levels as the plants offset that with O2 production, that’s why I was questioning your levels but I suspected your producing those levels from other sources like you have stated.

That is my only source of heat in the winter. I don't grow in a pit either. It is about 2 steps on a set of stairs. So that is the reason. I didn't specifically plan it that way. I just noticed that it did it over years of it.
And yes, the 15% increase is about right. I've not had one or 2 grows to compare the results, but multiple grows over a couple years, and that is pretty much the total results. I'm using high quality lights, I'm sure that adds into the equation. This my experience and I'm a nobody. It's all about the flower
Oh and in the summer, my CO2 is about 2x's what's outside. I have a CO2 meter that goes off at 1000 ppms. I'll hear it once or twice a day in the summer.
It won't shut off in winter.

 

[Budley Doright]

That is my only source of heat in the winter. I don't grow in a pit either. It is about 2 steps on a set of stairs. So that is the reason. I didn't specifically plan it that way. I just noticed that it did it over years of it.
And yes, the 15% increase is about right. I've not had one or 2 grows to compare the results, but multiple grows over a couple years, and that is pretty much the total results. I'm using high quality lights, I'm sure that adds into the equation. This my experience and I'm a nobody. It's all about the flower
Oh and in the summer, my CO2 is about 2x's what's outside. I have a CO2 meter that goes off at 1000 ppms. I'll hear it once or twice a day in the summer.
It won't shut off in winter.

Ya you really need to get some fresh air into your house, 1000 is about the limit for healthy air. 3000 is redicules, might I suggest an HRV LOL.

 

[budman111]

How?

One's a heater and ones a light, duh.

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

I said at "times" it has been that high. On those 0 degrees nights. You got to keep stuff warm or lose it all.

 

[Kingkush325]

Damn this thread took off lmao soooo I think building one is what looks good any recommendations for a 5×5 area? Want atleast 3 lb out that footage?

 

[1212ham]

One's a heater and ones a light, duh.

Ever touch an incandescent light? Actually, it doesn't matter if it's a heater, light or motor, 1 watt = 3.41 BTU.

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

Damn this thread took off lmao soooo I think building one is what looks good any recommendations for a 5×5 area? Want atleast 3 lb out that footage?

And now you show back up and ask for more help? lmao!