whytewidow

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The new MC is higher nitrogen? It looked like they added b vitamins but I thought n was the same?
That looks like reveg.

I also don't like that spikey growth (petiols?) in this one,

It may be nothing but the fact you mention it was the only one that didn't herm, I'd keep a close eye on it.

How is the long calyx plant doing?
They are still long. The magic has some very strange calyxes. They are like an inch long. And they have pistils coming out of them.
I'm def keeping an eye on it. I'm hoping shes just special lol.

I agree it looks like revegging. Possibly from the high N in MC so the last two feedings itd got water, calmag and bud explosion. No mc.
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SSGrower

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They are still long. The magic has some very strange calyxes. They are like an inch long. And they have pistils coming out of them.
I'm def keeping an eye on it. I'm hoping shes just special lol.

I agree it looks like revegging. Possibly from the high N in MC so the last two feedings itd got water, calmag and bud explosion. No mc.
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The Magic is the one with long calyxes?
Sorry for the 100 questions but I have a rather peculiuar obsesion with these things and their impact on breeding.
 

whytewidow

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The Magic is the one with long calyxes?
Sorry for the 100 questions but I have a rather peculiuar obsesion with these things and their impact on breeding.
Yeah the magic cake is the one with the ling calyxes. Its wizard punch x wedding cake. The wizard punch is blissful wizard x purple punch. The wedding cake cut that was used is jbeezys cut. The guy who made them. Said like 97% of his room hermied. Except a few that were crinkled like mine and indi dom. Like this one. The other that hermied were def sativa dom. But this one is throwing those huge calyxes. Even on side branching newer calyxes where preflowers show up first in the node corners. And even the main terminal cola has long calyxes. Its a first for me. I've had some weird shaped ones. And 100 different mutants. But nothing like this one. Itll be interesting to watch it bud on out. And see if those large calyxes swell up.
 

SSGrower

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Yeah the magic cake is the one with the ling calyxes. Its wizard punch x wedding cake. The wizard punch is blissful wizard x purple punch. The wedding cake cut that was used is jbeezys cut. The guy who made them. Said like 97% of his room hermied. Except a few that were crinkled like mine and indi dom. Like this one. The other that hermied were def sativa dom. But this one is throwing those huge calyxes. Even on side branching newer calyxes where preflowers show up first in the node corners. And even the main terminal cola has long calyxes. Its a first for me. I've had some weird shaped ones. And 100 different mutants. But nothing like this one. Itll be interesting to watch it bud on out. And see if those large calyxes swell up.
I am begining to form the opinion all mj can be monoceotious (not necissarilay feminized). Also I dont think we (the royal we) grow a sufficient number nor select appropriate diceatious breeding stock, bringing in "feminized" (quotes included because efficacy seems imo variable) genetics may further muddy the water idont know enough to know tho. Seems you have some curiosity in this as well? Or are the fems you popped for bud only?

Another question that I am currently trying to answer is can a guarnteed male be made? I had one reverse in reveg and now looks to be self polinated/polinating. Or is this just a variant of monoceotious behavior?

My intrist in this particular plant is piqued, I dont think I hold what would be considered a favorable opinion of its genetic satatus, but I am very curious to the outcome.
 

whytewidow

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I am begining to form the opinion all mj can be monoceotious (not necissarilay feminized). Also I dont think we (the royal we) grow a sufficient number nor select appropriate diceatious breeding stock, bringing in "feminized" (quotes included because efficacy seems imo variable) genetics may further muddy the water idont know enough to know tho. Seems you have some curiosity in this as well? Or are the fems you popped for bud only?

Another question that I am currently trying to answer is can a guarnteed male be made? I had one reverse in reveg and now looks to be self polinated/polinating. Or is this just a variant of monoceotious behavior?

My intrist in this particular plant is piqued, I dont think I hold what would be considered a favorable opinion of its genetic satatus, but I am very curious to the outcome.

I think this plant holds so much more value than what people think. If they would reschedule it. So science can look at it. And break it down. To really study it. I mean even without science. It can be used to smoke for jus fun. Or taken medicinally. Or some family of it can make paper, clothes, fuel, ect ect ect. This one single plant can build a better world. And the government jus refuses to let it happen. Not only create jobs, but taxes, income, insurance for workers. More money for education, it can save our crumbling infrastructure. I mean fuck you can use hemp and process it and build a fuckn house with the materials. Hell you can dress yourself with clothes made from it. While living in your house made from hemp materials. It just blows my mind that it has been put on this soapbox of harmful and useless.
 

whytewidow

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Cookies n Chem (Greenpoint)
"Widows Cut"
Starfighter Pheno OGKB dom

So I figured out days today. And I still have a ways to go. Atleast another 10 days then start the flush. Shes way loud.... beautiful purples n light pinks. Gonna take her at 75days this run. Shes at like day 56ish I think.

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whytewidow

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Chem '91 (CSI)
"Frostless Pheno"

Man I'm bummed with this. It's really starting to look like a reveg. While in flower. It had no frost at all. Almost culled it. I let her ride. And she turned around. Started to grow on me. And now this. Super sad. Debating on chopping her. She smells amazing. And yield very well. The epitome of Chem.

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whytewidow

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So any led guys following this thread? Have a driver question about using a different class of meanwells? If you have led experience and think you can help me out for a minute I'd appreciate it.
 

SSGrower

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So any led guys following this thread? Have a driver question about using a different class of meanwells? If you have led experience and think you can help me out for a minute I'd appreciate it.
COB led here.
The hlg series are rated for hazardous locations (potentially explosive/flammable atmospheres) the other series I have tried are owa, iirc they have same dust and moisture ip ratings, a bit less effecient, a bit less expensive.
 

Anothermeduser

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Chem '91 (CSI)
"Frostless Pheno"

Man I'm bummed with this. It's really starting to look like a reveg. While in flower. It had no frost at all. Almost culled it. I let her ride. And she turned around. Started to grow on me. And now this. Super sad. Debating on chopping her. She smells amazing. And yield very well. The epitome of Chem.
I wouldn't throw in the towel yet, frost is nice but I've had some deadly phenos that didn't have much frost but kicked ass, taste test
Before I throw out a cut..
 

whytewidow

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COB led here.
The hlg series are rated for hazardous locations (potentially explosive/flammable atmospheres) the other series I have tried are owa, iirc they have same dust and moisture ip ratings, a bit less effecient, a bit less expensive.
@Randomblame this is the post I was talking about. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
@nc208 this post I jus brought it here.
Yeah I know the difference in the classes for damp locations. I'm running 10 Samsung f series gen 3s on a hlg320h driver which is loaded down. Wanna switch it to the hlg480h but its pricey. For jus a bump in wattage. So I found the SE450-24 meanwell driver. But it doesnt show if its CC or CV soi wasnt sure if it would work. It's very close to the HLG480H I know the cases are different. And its not waterproof. But my drivers are ina box mounted on the wall. No watered any kind can get to them. But the Se450 is super cheap. 50 bucks to my door. Do you think they are close enough to work.

The SE450-24 does 451.2w @ 18.8amps
With voltage adjustment 21.6vdc to 28.5vdc

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The hlg480h does 480w @ 20.0amps
With voltage adjustment 20.4vdc to 25.2vdc
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whytewidow

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I wouldn't throw in the towel yet, frost is nice but I've had some deadly phenos that didn't have much frost but kicked ass, taste test
Before I throw out a cut..
The problem is it looks like she is starting reveg. And she shouldnt be. Shes in the flower tent. On 12/12 and has been for the last 8 or 9 weeks. Now shes starting to throw new leaves n such. And she wasnt ready to chop. She hermied right out the gate like day 9 or 10ish. I pulled the ball sacks. And havent seen anymore. But now she looks like shes revegging.
 

SSGrower

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@Randomblame this is the post I was talking about. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
@nc208 this post I jus brought it here.
Yeah I know the difference in the classes for damp locations. I'm running 10 Samsung f series gen 3s on a hlg320h driver which is loaded down. Wanna switch it to the hlg480h but its pricey. For jus a bump in wattage. So I found the SE450-24 meanwell driver. But it doesnt show if its CC or CV soi wasnt sure if it would work. It's very close to the HLG480H I know the cases are different. And its not waterproof. But my drivers are ina box mounted on the wall. No watered any kind can get to them. But the Se450 is super cheap. 50 bucks to my door. Do you think they are close enough to work.

The SE450-24 does 451.2w @ 18.8amps
With voltage adjustment 21.6vdc to 28.5vdc

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The hlg480h does 480w @ 20.0amps
With voltage adjustment 20.4vdc to 25.2vdc
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Random knows compatibility, Id defer to him for a final verdict.
This looks like a cv driver, efficiency tanks, I don't like the integrated fan.
 

whytewidow

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Random knows compatibility, Id defer to him for a final verdict.
This looks like a cv driver, efficiency tanks, I don't like the integrated fan.
Yeah even when voltage dropped clear down it will still push 18.8amps. Which wont work.

Edit: so I think its CC bc the voltage is adjustable. But I'm not 100% but I did call jameco ane talked to their tech. He said with voltage turned clear down it will still have 18.8 amps pushing on its output. Probably gonna jus go with the HLG480h and use the hlg320h I have now on bridgelux EB series strips. To replace the modded mars.
 

nc208

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@Randomblame this is the post I was talking about. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
@nc208 this post I jus brought it here.
Yeah I know the difference in the classes for damp locations. I'm running 10 Samsung f series gen 3s on a hlg320h driver which is loaded down. Wanna switch it to the hlg480h but its pricey. For jus a bump in wattage. So I found the SE450-24 meanwell driver. But it doesnt show if its CC or CV soi wasnt sure if it would work. It's very close to the HLG480H I know the cases are different. And its not waterproof. But my drivers are ina box mounted on the wall. No watered any kind can get to them. But the Se450 is super cheap. 50 bucks to my door. Do you think they are close enough to work.

The SE450-24 does 451.2w @ 18.8amps
With voltage adjustment 21.6vdc to 28.5vdc

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The hlg480h does 480w @ 20.0amps
With voltage adjustment 20.4vdc to 25.2vdc
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Sorry I'm confused as to what your question is? The switching power supply you have posted is both cc and CV I believe. It will work to run your lights yes but I haven't used that style personally. I've seen several use them but I'm not a fan cuz they aren't fully enclosed.
 

whytewidow

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Sorry I'm confused as to what your question is? The switching power supply you have posted is both cc and CV I believe. It will work to run your lights yes but I haven't used that style personally. I've seen several use them but I'm not a fan cuz they aren't fully enclosed.

Ok I'm running 10 Samsung f series gen 3s. 560mm length ones f562bs. On a HLG-320H-24 I wanna bump it up to the HLG480h. For a little extra wattage. And possibly to expand later on down the road. Cheapest I can find it for is 140 bucks plus shipping. The SE450-24 is 50 bucks shipped to my door. I was just trying to cut some upfront costs. But I dont think se450 will work. Bc the current/Amps is adjustable. Only the voltage. So if I drop the voltage to say 22.7vdc to dim the strips. The Se450 will still be pushing 18.8 amps. I think. Do you think that's right? Wouldnt the strips only pull the amps they needed.


Edit: the reasoning for swapping from the 320h is that 10 strips is a bit much wired in parallel. Its slammed maxed out. If I bump to the 480h I gain more wattage. And the driver is lent loaded clear to max. I'll run it at 75%. And I'll use the 320h driver I have on EB series 1 foot bridgelux. 19 of them mixed up between 3k and 4k. To replace the modded mars light I'm using in the other flower tent.
 

whytewidow

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Forum Delights #11 (Eden Gardens/Genetics)

She starting to really throw some pistils. I did a super heavy defol on her today. I mean heavy. Almost all fans stripped except for the top 3 sets of nodes on each top. Pulled all small secondary branches and what would be larf. So hopefully she will put out 16 solid big colas. Only time will tell. Shes putting off light vanilla/creme scents right now.

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