Don't buy any COCO from Milleniumsoils Coir!

[dakoamoon]

I went to my local store to buy some CANA coco, they were all out.. I had to drive an hour to pick up a brick of the coco coir from Millennium Soils.. located in S. Ontario, Canada.

I followed the instructions on the brick - to hydrate the soil.

I planted $60 worth of seeds, and sat back to watch my ladies grow!

One by one the seedlings died, so I measured the runoff from the coco coir, with distilled water in: the output was 1700ppm, which explains why the seedlings died.

So I contacted the company, and asked them to back their product up, NADA. They claim the coco brick is not meant for marijuana and that's why the plants died! That is BS. unless you are growing crystals .. in 1700ppm. NOTHING will grow.

So if you can divert your $$ to a company that backs up it's defective products, then look elsewhere.

 

[Blitz35]

That's the only coco i have used as it's the only one i found in local stores in quebec, and there was nothing wrong with it at all! used in 4 straight grows. Most coco should be rinsed heavily before planting into it to remove buildup of namely sodium..and then buffered prior to planting into it. As for 1700 ppm and nothing will grow in it? I have had mediums that sometimes showed above 2000 ppm, and plants were growing fine in it! My tomato plant was showing 2300 this summer, and the fruits were growing just fine! Don't blame the product, one should read before diving into something

 

[dakoamoon]

I followed the instructions implicitly that came with the product, when my seedlings kept dying, and I couldn't figure out why (my blue wave ppm meter was in transit) . I planted mung beans and pumpkin seeds.. they died as well. The company Millennium Soils tells me their product which I bought is NOT for marijuana (even though i bought it at a hydro store) .. They claim that since I bought a product NOT intended for marijuana - that it's my fault .. for purchasing their product which was not intended for pot. How's that for slipping out of any liability?

 

[blowincherrypie]

I followed the instructions implicitly that came with the product, when my seedlings kept dying, and I couldn't figure out why (my blue wave ppm meter was in transit) . I planted mung beans and pumpkin seeds.. they died as well. The company Millennium Soils tells me their product which I bought is NOT for marijuana (even though i bought it at a hydro store) .. They claim that since I bought a product NOT intended for marijuana - that it's my fault .. for purchasing their product which was not intended for pot. How's that for slipping out of any liability?

Not being a dick but what exactly were you hoping for?? You want them to reimburse you for the seeds or something?? I used to buy from one of the local stores but since they closed I just cop from off Amazon.. but ya whenever trying new coco it's a good idea to rinse and test before planting. Hope u get thing figured out brother.. Good luck!

 

[dakoamoon]

I bought a product from a hydro store which is supposed to be able to grow pot, how am I supposed to know that the product I bought is NOT for pot? I have got it figured out now thanks to people in many forums, the company has been zero help.

 

[Blitz35]

I followed the instructions implicitly that came with the product, when my seedlings kept dying, and I couldn't figure out why (my blue wave ppm meter was in transit) . I planted mung beans and pumpkin seeds.. they died as well. The company Millennium Soils tells me their product which I bought is NOT for marijuana (even though i bought it at a hydro store) .. They claim that since I bought a product NOT intended for marijuana - that it's my fault .. for purchasing their product which was not intended for pot. How's that for slipping out of any liability?

There is no such thing as 'not for pot'..and anyone with the least bit of knowledge on general plant growth would know that! The reason they tell you it's not for pot, is so they don't have to waste time explaining to you how to grow produce...that's not their job..it's the user's responsibility to learn the in's and outs! You can grow pot in sand if you know how to grow properly! The problem isn't the coco..one should get educated on a topic before blaming other's for their grow issues. They also don't have labels on fruits or vegetables to wash them before eating..but we do it anyway..if we get sick because we eat it off the shelf in the store..do you call the fruit distributor and blame them for some germ that got on their fruit during transport and selling? Read, read, and learn, you won't run into such problems again. Don't rely on a hydro store cashier to tell you how you should grow a plant! Learn the science yourself!

 

[dakoamoon]

When you go and buy any product, should you: follow manufacturers instructions on the package, the instructions say .. hydrate with 17 gallons of water, my water sucks .. so I spent $30 to wash and hydrate the coco per manufacturers instructions - with distilled water.

So according to you, every product that one buys, .. you should ignore the instructions on the package, and do all kinds of research on coco bricks!

The company is just hiding behind the vendor in this case.

The company keeps telling me.. the vendor should never have sold you that.. so it's Your fault, not the vendors fault, but mine.

 

[Blitz35]

When you go and buy any product, should you: follow manufacturers instructions on the package, the instructions say .. hydrate with 17 gallons of water, my water sucks .. so I spent $30 to wash and hydrate the coco per manufacturers instructions - with distilled water.

So according to you, every product that one buys, .. you should ignore the instructions on the package, and do all kinds of research on coco bricks!

The company is just hiding behind the vendor in this case.

The company keeps telling me.. the vendor should never have sold you that.. so it's Your fault, not the vendors fault, but mine.

'Every product'? We're talking plants, and yes, even when you buy fertilizer, you absolutely 100% ignore what it says on the bottle for recommended feedings..as not all plants and flowers will want the same amount of food at certain times..hence why people start off with 25% of the recommendations..because it's known by now that the instructions on the bottles will fry your pot plants! In any case, yes research helps, you learn something as oppose to following blind general advice that is intended as a 'general' guideline. Growing a plant can be done by a 5 year old, the reason research and learning and extensive reading is necessary, is to understand why things happen, when they happen, and how it has to be corrected when issues arise..or better yet, research would have prevented this from happening in your case...surprised you don't see the value in it, since it was you who was misled by a general sticker on a product. Best of luck in your grows, take care!

 

[dakoamoon]

Okay .. I walk into a store .. and buy fertilizer which is sold as for marijuana growing.

I follow the manufacturers instructions implicitly about using their product, but this fertilizer causes you to lose all of your crop - although you followed the instructions to the letter.

Maybe you can afford to lose $60 worth of seeds every few weeks, but some of us out here can't!

Millennium Soils is hiding behind the vendor, their product .. when used as directed is defective!

 

[Blitz35]

Okay .. I walk into a store .. and buy fertilizer which is sold as for marijuana growing.

I follow the manufacturers instructions implicitly about using their product, but this fertilizer causes you to lose all of your crop - although you followed the instructions to the letter.

Maybe you can afford to lose $60 worth of seeds every few weeks, but some of us out here can't!

Millennium Soils is hiding behind the vendor, their product .. when used as directed is defective!

"I walk into a store .. and buy fertilizer which is sold as for marijuana growing."

Again, with a comment like that, it shows you have no idea about plant growth, plant biology, the science behind it. There is NO such thing as a fertilizer strictly for marijuana..the same way there is no medium that specifically can say you can't grow marijuana in it! It's another plant...same basic requirements as any other one! The point i was trying to make, is its not the coco's fault that you lost your seeds, it's a lack of understanding on how to grow, in this case, in coco coir. You were counting on a simple label on a product to tell you all that is needed to know in order to grow a plant, when in reality, that's not the case..it's not as simple as reading a sentence and then all is good. If i followed the instructions on the label on my gh line of ferts, my plants would have all been cooked by week 4!!! "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man to fish, he has food for a lifetime"

 

[dakoamoon]

Man it's like explaining things to a child: The Millennial people, are the ones who told me I had bought the wrong coco for pot, so they had no liability.

They only offered to sell me more expensive coco products that they offer that "are expressly for marijuana"!

I'm not the one who keeps insisting" "The product you bought is not intended for marijuana, We do have coco that we sell for marijuana, and We'll happily sell you some of that!" - so even though you bought it at a marijuana store, ha ha .. You bought the wrong product, so we have zero liability!

 

[Blitz35]

Man it's like explaining things to a child: The Millennial people, are the ones who told me I had bought the wrong coco for pot, so they had no liability.

They only offered to sell me more expensive coco products that they offer that "are expressly for marijuana"!

I'm not the one who keeps insisting" "The product you bought is not intended for marijuana, We do have coco that we sell for marijuana, and We'll happily sell you some of that!" - so even though you bought it at a marijuana store, ha ha .. You bought the wrong product, so we have zero liability!

In my opinion, what they are saying is..since it appears you are having a hard time with our less expensive product, we will sell you a more expensive one, that will suit your skills. What that means is, the cheaper one requires work to get to working properly..proper cleaning and buffering of it to make it optimum..or for those that can't do that or don't want to..we will sell you a more expensive one where we did all of this for you at a cost...this way you're good to go.
Same reason why buying a ready made meal is more expensive than to put it together yourself, some can't or don't want to, so they buy it already made for convenience. You can't blame the farmer if the chef doesn't know how to cook the meal
Why not try something like pro-mix..available in ontario and much more simple to get going!

 

[Delztronics]

I went to my local store to buy some CANA coco, they were all out.. I had to drive an hour to pick up a brick of the coco coir from Millennium Soils.. located in S. Ontario, Canada.

I followed the instructions on the brick - to hydrate the soil.

I planted $60 worth of seeds, and sat back to watch my ladies grow!

One by one the seedlings died, so I measured the runoff from the coco coir, with distilled water in: the output was 1700ppm, which explains why the seedlings died.

So I contacted the company, and asked them to back their product up, NADA. They claim the coco brick is not meant for marijuana and that's why the plants died! That is BS. unless you are growing crystals .. in 1700ppm. NOTHING will grow.

So if you can divert your $$ to a company that backs up it's defective products, then look elsewhere.

I squeeze flush every type of coco i've ever used before putting anything in it. It's just common sense.

 

[Flash63]

I’ve used many different brands including millennium (it was full of salt)canna is the most consistent and has a low e.c,love the bricks!

 

[CannaCountry]

It should go without saying; you need to rinse and buffer your coco before use, no matter the manufacturer or other claims. It's cheap insurance and it gives one a much better footing in terms of starting their grow. I understand your complaint, but always remember; 'buyer beware'. I'm sure the coco you have is usable if you'll take the time to clean it up. Sorry you lost your seeds and your investment, but what you've learned thus far will prove to be price less. Good luck!

 

[jondamon]

It should go without saying; you need to rinse and buffer your coco before use!

Exactly this CC

Virtually all coco requires buffering in one shape or form.

Man it's like explaining things to a child: The Millennial people, are the ones who told me I had bought the wrong coco for pot, so they had no liability.

They only offered to sell me more expensive coco products that they offer that "are expressly for marijuana"!

I'm not the one who keeps insisting" "The product you bought is not intended for marijuana, We do have coco that we sell for marijuana, and We'll happily sell you some of that!" - so even though you bought it at a marijuana store, ha ha .. You bought the wrong product, so we have zero liability!

I will say what everyone else says.

Anything that is “marajuana” specific means a license to ask for more money from the customer.

I don’t use marajuana specific anything.

I use plant fertilisers that are balanced, coco coil that I buffer myself, but none of these are MJ specific.

Cheap compressed bricks of coco coir are full of sodium due to the washing of the coir at source mainly in shrilanka, because it’s washed at the sea shore.

Companies then process the coco And sometimes sterilise and buffer it ready for use.

CANNA COCO COIR PROFESSIONAL PLUS is my coir of choice.

Comes out of the bag at around 1.5EC and is loose not compressed.

With most manufacturers nutrients if you follow the recommended feeding guides you will inevitably burn up your plants through over feeding.