Tobacco Mosaic Virus or not?

im4satori said:
broad mites don't make webs and almost impossible to spot one and theyre tiny

most of the natural remedies wont work on broad mites..... theyre a motha fucker

either dump everything and start over after a good bleach or bite the bullet and use forbid 4f

if mites is indeed what you have...that's my guess but im only looking at a picture so ....
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So you can't spot russet mites with magnif. glass?
 
AngryMexican said:
So you can't spot russet mites with magnif. glass?
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with a microscope but its real hard to do it

took me hours one time to spot one.... I almost felt like they move to fast idk im not an expert on bugs... but ive had broad mites and never seen one.... sprayed forbid a few times (early veg only) and wella they look good again!
but the bugs are resilient and return so its a bitch

id say...when you think theyre gone...keep treating cuz theyre not...

id start with some poison like systemic forbid (toxic) a couple times and the switch to something like azamax on a regular schedule for a good while

ideally youd start with fresh rooted clones so the poisons have time to clear the plant before you get into bloom
 
See here guys....I said Russet mites, NOT regular mites of any type!

It's Forbid or Avid and best to use both and alternate...

Otherwise....Pitch and start over, period!

Satori has it right.....He caught I said Russet/Broad mites...

AngryMexican said:
Dr. Who, what do you think about those "pull the pin and run" Black Flag thing?
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These are made of Pyrethrins and an agent that makes the active pyrethrin last longer (pyrethrins will only last a matter of hrs).

These work nicely for many things..

Not really effective for Russet/Broad mites..


As to your light colored plant - give it more N....
 
We ran a couple images through our AI powered nutrient/pest diagnosis tool at buddy.kindbot.io
Buddy finds light yellow leaves and suggests Nitrogen or striping in the leaves to suggest magnesium.
Buddy sees that the edges of the leaves curl up slightly and suggests heat or light burn.
More categories coming soon, including Broad/Russet mites, which look similar in the curling of the leaves.

Cheers,
Terry @kindbot
 
Dr. Who said:
See here guys....I said Russet mites, NOT regular mites of any type!

It's Forbid or Avid and best to use both and alternate...

Otherwise....Pitch and start over, period!

Satori has it right.....He caught I said Russet/Broad mites...


These are made of Pyrethrins and an agent that makes the active pyrethrin last longer (pyrethrins will only last a matter of hrs).

These work nicely for many things..

Not really effective for Russet/Broad mites..


As to your light colored plant - give it more N....
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Just replanted my girls and twisting started again with plenty of other deficiencies? :(, more foliar poison applied today, keep on the fight...
Runoff ppm is ok, PH 6, double checked with liquid ph tester. nutes that I use are GH coco 80% strength. Could this be damage of mites? Root rot?

 
Dr. Who said:
I agree, you have an advancing nutrient problem..

Leech with a Ca/Mg charged and pH balanced water......Then raise your N use..

Next time, consider the use of soil - far more forgiving. Great place to learn.
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Next grow will be on soil 100%

Before I transplanted, they have been already showing these symptoms I thought that was root bound, but it wasnt, so how could that be a lockout if they did grow well (until they started getting light green) before I moved them to bigger pots?

I am so desperate, I dont know what to do, I am totally hopeless, makes me cry... failing two times in a row...
 
Before transplant girls stopped drinking water normally, pots stay wet for too long... Just cant figure out what I did wrong
 
AngryMexican said:
Before transplant girls stopped drinking water normally, pots stay wet for too long... Just cant figure out what I did wrong
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Are your plants sitting on a cold floor? If so get them off of it. Stop spraying anything more on your plants.

Let the coco dry out some so that it's damp but not soaking wet. Water with half strength nutes pH'd to 6.0 until about 20% runoff. Don't worry about runoff pH worry about the pH of what goes in. You're growing in coco. Coco can be good or bad. Once you get the hang of it it's really good. Things can go south fast if you mess up but you can also correct things quickly as well.



Good luck.
 
AngryMexican said:
Next grow will be on soil 100%

Before I transplanted, they have been already showing these symptoms I thought that was root bound, but it wasnt, so how could that be a lockout if they did grow well (until they started getting light green) before I moved them to bigger pots?

I am so desperate, I dont know what to do, I am totally hopeless, makes me cry... failing two times in a row...
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Go from seeds.
Put the seed in the soil in a solo cup and water. Keep someplace warm, till you see a seedling..
Use a nice soil. No M Grow.....
No nutrients for a few weeks.
Use a simple nutrient system...
Botanicare KIND (contains all the Ca that the run will need)
G&H 3 part, etc.

BE PATIENT.......No fancy this or that. No supplements.....(maybe Mg if needed - make your own with 2 TBL of Epsom and a 1/2 tsp of dark brown sugar - to a qt of RO water)
For simple Mg treatment,,, 5ml per gallon.
 
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