zeddd
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Structural racism, white Bois don’t get it, you are a good example of it.
John Dingell has a few ideas about how to fix American politics
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rkymtnman
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this is a pot growing aka drug website. did that part not translate well into cyrillic, komrade??
Fogdog
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I think you are right but I also think that Roger is right too. We can't lump every white man into the same bin as Donald Trump. Though most did vote for him.
Most white men in this country don't get it.
Fogdog
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White tears
This is a preachy article and you'll hate it but it speaks to your issues. I don't care if you read it or not but you have a huge blind spot.
https://www.tolerance.org/magazine/fall-2018/what-is-white-privilege-really
ttystikk
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I'll never make that mistake again.
Fogdog
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zeddd
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Violent white male. Progeny of racists.
zeddd
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From the article Fogdog kindly posted
“1) The word white creates discomfort among those who are not used to being defined or described by their race. And 2) the word privilege, especially for poor and rural white people, sounds like a word that doesn’t belong to them—like a word that suggests they have never struggled.”
“1) The word white creates discomfort among those who are not used to being defined or described by their race. And 2) the word privilege, especially for poor and rural white people, sounds like a word that doesn’t belong to them—like a word that suggests they have never struggled.”
zeddd
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From Fitzgerald
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In my younger and more vulnerable years my father gave me some advice that I’ve been turning over in my mind ever since.
“Whenever you feel like criticizing any one,” he told me, “just remember that all the people in this world haven’t had the advantages that you’ve had.”
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In my younger and more vulnerable years my father gave me some advice that I’ve been turning over in my mind ever since.
“Whenever you feel like criticizing any one,” he told me, “just remember that all the people in this world haven’t had the advantages that you’ve had.”
TacoMac
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Then again, they said the same thing about Clinton and look what that got us.
Budley Doright
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As a whole if you're not white, or a lighter skin tone (re planet wide) your ability for growth is hindered due to that fact. I was also raised by a family that was extremely racist, my dad, as much as I loved him, did not garner my respect. I was able to see his hatred was based on skin color not the actual person. White/light skin privilege is not a personal feeling as much as a human reality. Do all whites need to feel remorse/responsible for this? I think yes they do actually, because it’s still exist in many ways. It starts here with school funding which is based, not on equality, but inequality.
Roger A. Shrubber
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you know what? i'm happy with my "blind spot"...i try to be good to people, and i don't care what color they are. i try to treat everyone the same, and i don't care what country they come from. i do my best not to just believe stereotypes, to take people on a case by case basis.
if that's not good enough for the rest of you, i just don't give a shit. i'm not here to pass anyone's test. i think the rest of you would do well to take a few tests yourself. i manage 20 apartments , with 18 hispanic tenants....and i defy you to find one of them that will tell you i've ever said a damn racist thing to any of them, in ten years, treated any of them in anything but an entirely appropriate way....
i live in the real world, with real people, and i seem to be able to get along with all of them just fine. europeans, asians, middle easterners, black, white, brown and yellow....no problems getting along at all....no problems with them living next door....no problems eating next to them in restaurants, or shopping next to them in stores...so what fucking problem do i have? i think it's that i'm not contrite enough about being a white man...and i say fuck you to that...i'm NOT going to feel shame i don't think i deserve to feel, for things i didn't do, and have no control of...
zeddd
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More white tears
Fogdog
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Since you are aware of your blind side then you must know that you had white privilege given to you at birth. This is nothing to be ashamed of, in my opinion. You didn't ask for it and you didn't use it against anybody. White privilege is an outcome of structural racism. You didn't create it. I'm white too. I don't see any reason to get all angry when it's pointed out that structural racism and white privilege exists. Denying that it exists would be like saying the world is flat and sealed beneath the dome of the heavenly firmament.
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Roger A. Shrubber
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i don't deny that it exists. i don't deny that i have benefited by it. i can't give you any particular examples of how i've benefited from it, but i'm sure it's occurred, at least once or twice.
i didn't ask for it, don't want it, and have tried to move forward for a long time. all i know how to do to fight this kind of shit is to not support it, to hold out a hand to whoever needs one, no matter what color they are, or what country they were born in. to not make things harder for anyone, if i can help it. life is already hard enough, without me making it harder for no real reason.
i get upset when people paint anyone with a broad brush. i don't like stereotypes, i don't like preconceptions, and i don't like generalizations. i'm an individual. the people who perpetuate white privilege wouldn't piss on me if i was on fire. i may be white, but i'm not one of the privileged, and i don't matter to them any more than anyone else. so when someone who doesn't know a fucking thing about me lumps me into a group i find offensive, i get offended.....go figure
Fogdog
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You get angry when you occasionally experience a minor example of what Muslim, Black, Hispanic and Asian people and all women experience practically every day. People who aren't white males simply can't afford the cost of reacting to every outrage they experience on a daily basis. They would also invite a backlash from the structurally racist and misogynist system for doing so. All you get is some anonymous biting criticism at a pot site. Lucky you. That's white privilege for you.
