John Dingell has a few ideas about how to fix American politics

Fogdog

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Here's the deal Buck I'm 1000% percent with shit. So I hate my whiteness so much I go around in black face but even then I am ostrich sized. I just wanna be down with the bros but no matter what I do to TELL them they never seem to listen. But the few times I've gotten into some all black situations because I only talked about BLM with them they let me know that performative allieships are another form of white privilege so I just went back to my yacht because that keeps em far away.
Is this where you tell us you are going to beat and rape us because we disagree with you, panhead?

Tell us about you butt buddy prison gangsters and how we'll regret it if we ever met them behind bars, panhead. You are the most vile poster I've met at RIU.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Thank you for the white tears. I like to mix it with white rum.
you can mix it with whatever you want. i'll continue to stand up for my rights and the rights of others, no matter how much you ridicule me for not being politically correct. if you have to blame yourself to be able to sleep at night, then blame yourself.
i can sleep just fine. i can look at myself in the mirror, and know that i'm not trying to fuck anyone else over. i have a clear conscience (as far as being a racist goes)...if you don't, that's your problem, don't project your problems onto the rest of the world
 

Fogdog

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you can mix it with whatever you want. i'll continue to stand up for my rights and the rights of others, no matter how much you ridicule me for not being politically correct. if you have to blame yourself to be able to sleep at night, then blame yourself.
i can sleep just fine. i can look at myself in the mirror, and know that i'm not trying to fuck anyone else over. i have a clear conscience (as far as being a racist goes)...if you don't, that's your problem, don't project your problems onto the rest of the world
Yes, Yes,

I agree that white men to resort to anger and violence when they can't get people to agree with them..
 

zeddd

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It’s straight out of the text book. Open a discussion about structural racism, white privilege and white tears and wait for the big “fuck you” from the white guy who wants to stand up for his “rights”.
 

Budley Doright

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I honestly don’t think I need to look in the mirror and singularly blame myself for white priveledge but I do think we need to realize what it is and it’s existence, and do what I can to help end it. I fight for better funding for northern schools, I fight for better/equal funding for inner city schools, we really don’t have that where I am, but we have less funded schools. I donate what I can to those individual schools. I don’t do this to give myself a pass, I do it because it’s needed. I take kids fishing that would never get a chance, color don’t matter, attitude does though, piss me off and out you go lol.
 

londonfog

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I honestly don’t think I need to look in the mirror and singularly blame myself for white priveledge but I do think we need to realize what it is and it’s existence, and do what I can to help end it. I fight for better funding for northern schools, I fight for better/equal funding for inner city schools, we really don’t have that where I am, but we have less funded schools. I donate what I can to those individual schools. I don’t do this to give myself a pass, I do it because it’s needed. I take kids fishing that would never get a chance, color don’t matter, attitude does though, piss me off and out you go lol.
As a black man I personally don't blame EVERY white person for the past, present and future. I do let their action and words speak for self. That does include lack of action and words.
 

Budley Doright

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As a black man I personally don't blame EVERY white person for the past, present and future. I do let their action and words speak for self. That does include lack of action and words.
And even if you did that would be ok with me, I kinda get it :(. My family was fucked up (racist) and I grew up enduring the stupid shit.
 

Unclebaldrick

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that's a problem...why are the rural people working harder for less? that makes no sense. people are eating their cell phones? tech people should be making less than rural people....i lived for 50 years without a cellphone....try living for 50 years without food.....the people who literally keep us alive so that we can play with our technological toys are slowly starving and going out of business....while the people who make toys are getting rich.....and that's just fucking stupid
Not to pick a fight or anything... but you call cell phones a toy. You point out that you have lived without one for 50 years.

Cell phones are far more than a toy. Yes, you can play games on them, but they represent the tip of the iceberg of one of the largest technological advances in our history. Think about it. You can diminish them all you want but they are part of a synergy of technology that has changed our lives inexorably forever. The things you can do with the technology are literally endless - and this is just the beginning.

Smart farmers are using the cellular/satellite network to increase productivity and leverage their resources in ways that our fathers could not have envisioned. They use them and the underlying satellite imaging to maximize the efficiency of irrigation, fertilizer and pesticides. Smart farmers use the technology to have a better handle on long and short term weather trends which enable them to plan ahead in ways that would have seemed impossible a few decades ago. They can use them to seek out the best prices for their crops and tap into global markets instantaneously - unless some asshole starts a trade war.

And some of them probably also use them to play Words With Friends.

Other farmers are continuing to farm the way their dads did - the way their grandfathers did. it won't be a very big change from the way their great-great-great-great grandfathers did except for the things like artificial fertilizers, automation and pesticides - all of which were introduced to them (and are totally responsible for the increases in productivity in farming in the last couple hundred years) by these loathsome tech workers that you think shouldn't earn that much. And those farmers are working harder for less. Eventually, they will die and their children will sell their land to the smart farmers who will become very, very rich.

Not everybody in rural areas are working more for less - just most of them. The smart ones will continue to raise food and sell it to the cities, and they will take the profits and buy your land from your kids.
 

londonfog

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Not to pick a fight or anything... but you call cell phones a toy. You point out that you have lived without one for 50 years.

Cell phones are far more than a toy. Yes, you can play games on them, but they represent the tip of the iceberg of one of the largest technological advances in our history. Think about it. You can diminish them all you want but they are part of a synergy of technology that has changed our lives inexorably forever. The things you can do with the technology are literally endless - and this is just the beginning.

Smart farmers are using the cellular/satellite network to increase productivity and leverage their resources in ways that our fathers could not have envisioned. They use them and the underlying satellite imaging to maximize the efficiency of irrigation, fertilizer and pesticides. Smart farmers use the technology to have a better handle on long and short term weather trends which enable them to plan ahead in ways that would have seemed impossible a few decades ago.

And some of them probably also use them to play Words With Friends.

Other farmers are continuing to farm the way their dads did - the way their grandfathers did. it won't be a very big change from the way their great-great-great-great grandfathers did except for the things like artificial fertilizers, automation and pesticides - all of which were introduced to them (and are totally responsible for the increases in productivity in farming in the last couple hundred years) by these loathsome tech workers that you think shouldn't earn that much. And those farmers are working harder for less. Eventually, they will die and their children will sell their land to the smart farmers who will become very, very rich.

Not everybody in rural areas are working more for less - just most of them. The smart ones will continue to raise food and sell it to the cities, and they will take the profits and buy your land from your kids.
Got to take the good and the bad. Took the wife and son out to dinner at a restaurant and notice how many tables lacking conversation amongst each other, because everyone was staring down at their phone...even the kids.
It was an epiphany moment
 

Unclebaldrick

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Got to take the good and the bad. Took the wife and son out to dinner at a restaurant and notice how many tables lacking conversation amongst each other, because everyone was staring down at their phone...even the kids.
It was an epiphany moment
Yup. And there is far more. Our "connected" society just let Putin huxter our election. It is all about evolution. The teething pains of this thing are pretty extreme but it was always going to happen. Adapt or die.

In WWI humanity had to deal with the question of "what should we do with all this industrial output?" It learned the first stage of the lesson by killing millions of it's "best and brightest". After WWII we learned that we could annihilate ourselves entirely, but we haven't done it yet.

This is what happens when our big old monkey brains gain sentience.

 
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Unclebaldrick

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I understand you can't control family.
@schuylaar father was a racist POS, unfortunately at times that rubs off on her words and thinkings.
Do you think there is any hope for her? The trend is very bad, I admit.

One of the saddest things she ever posted (so many to consider) was the idea that she would just hunker down with her pet(s) if faced with an inevitable nuclear strike. No family, just her and her dog or whatever. I could understand if she didn't have children - but she does. Oh, the things they must have had to go through.
 

londonfog

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Do you think there is any hope for her? The trend is very bad, I admit.

One of the saddest things she ever posted (so many to consider) was the idea that she would just hunker down with her pet(s) if faced with an inevitable nuclear strike. No family, just her and her dog or whatever. I could understand if she didn't have children - but she does. Oh, the things they must have had to go through.
I once thought there was hope for her, but sadly she might be too old for change. Too stubborn and stuck in her ways.
 
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