PH rise, EC rise, less water usage

Skybound420

Skybound420

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foliage2018 said:
The point is technical vs food grade H2O2.
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I don't know the difference, so you'll have to make a judgment call or wait for more feedback. Here's where I crashed and burned with rot and H2O2. IMO, H2O2 is the best solution for now, but bennies is the way to go for next and future grows IMO. Your system has some design flaws that you can't do anything about which is why an aggressive approach in prevention would be most ideal.

https://www.420magazine.com/community/threads/first-grow-aero-stealth-box.194612/page-16#post-1845476
 
foliage2018

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shawnery said:
Food grade is 30%?
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Food grade doesn't have chemical stabilizers. Technical has.

Skybound420 said:
I don't know the difference, so you'll have to make a judgment call or wait for more feedback. Here's where I crashed and burned with rot and H2O2. IMO, H2O2 is the best solution for now, but bennies is the way to go for next and future grows IMO. Your system has some design flaws that you can't do anything about which is why an aggressive approach in prevention would be most ideal.

https://www.420magazine.com/community/threads/first-grow-aero-stealth-box.194612/page-16#post-1845476
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I know that H2O2 burn. When I was about 12 years old I was using it for making explosive like HMTD. And when I bought the last one it poured out of the barrel and destroyed carpets in my car. What a dick I am... :-D
 
Skybound420

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rkymtnman said:
(and on a side note, heisenberg just lost his whole crop because of root rot) so tea also is not fail proof
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Can you dig up a link to this event? I'm trolling his posts now looking, but I don't know what to look for except most recent to the past.
 
Skybound420

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Heisenbeans is a bennies guy too. He hit a hiccup when buying Hydro Guard off Amazon that turned out to be expired, but he's straight now I guess. Good read. His problems were a few posts prior.

http://www.rollitup.org/t/heisenbeans-genetics.978924/page-74#post-14634283

Bennies are the safest way to go and in organics are actually a prerequisite as they break down the elements into a form that can be absorbed into the roots.
 
rkymtnman

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Skybound420 said:
Heisenbeans is a bennies guy too. He hit a hiccup when buying Hydro Guard off Amazon that turned out to be expired, but he's straight now I guess. Good read. His problems were a few posts prior.

http://www.rollitup.org/t/heisenbeans-genetics.978924/page-74#post-14634283

Bennies are the safest way to go and in organics are actually a prerequisite as they break down the elements into a form that can be absorbed into the roots.
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ive been using southern ag garden friendly fungicide. check it out on ebay/amazon. same strain as hydroguard but a million times more concentrated and way cheaper.

sterile or bennies worked great for me.
 
5BY5LEC

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I will second that I have seen my friend run a sterile system and it was fine. I personally run hydroguard and or orca and it was just fine.
As much as I like bennies I think you should hit it hard with something sterile. Bennies will not sterilize your system but obviously something like pool shock, h202 will. You need sterile for two reasons....1. clear the shit you have...and 2. keep it clean. Bennies are not going to accomplish number 1.
 
foliage2018

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Update:
water consumption doesn't change - we are at +- 80l/day. EC is still (0,57 just basic nutes with RO water), PH slightly rising by 0,1/day (5,9-6,0 now). I am adding H2O2 every day an hour before the lights switch on - 0,5ml/l. But when the roots are flooded I see no "bubbling" as the H2O2 should be killing those organisms. The buds are still developing.

What will happen after the H2O2 kills that root rot? Will those roots be white again or will be there new root growth (week 5/8 of flowering)?

I am thinking why that root rot happened. The only reason might be that water left on the bottom of the bucket after draining is completed. It is stagnant and getting warm and the roots are drowning. What if I won't let them reach that water? What if I will put a fabric pot (smartpot) inside the net pot and fill it with hydroton? Will those plants have enough space for roots in 1gallon of hydroton?
 
shawnery

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I can answer part of this hut not the flood and drain.

It should be no more then 5ml per gallon and only the first time and then only 2ml per gallon daily and that's 30%. You won't actually see any bubbling at that concentration but it's happening. I put in 5 times as much the other day by accident and saved them but my point was I saw very little bubbling even at that concentration.

Once the rot is under control, it will never be cured, the onld roots will eventually grow new roots off of them. Don't worry about the old ones unless they start getting slimey again because they will never recover but just grow new ones.

You might consider cutting about a 1/4 inch of roots off the bottom of you mass to force new root growth. It works the same way as topping except backwards. You remove a small amount of roots from the bottom and they start growing new roots at the top.

I know these are clones but the idea is the same. The first and second phot are two days apart after trimming my roots.
 

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It will be fine for a couple days no matter how much you put in it will all be gone in 3 days. As long as you're dosing everyday you should be fine for a couple days. If you want I would miss the day prior to leaving and then do a full dose the day you leave. I just don't want to burn your roots to bad even though ot won't kill your girls it's not great either.

22c is right on the line for asking for issues in hydro. Up to 72-74 could he fine in a perfect system, as close to, but you really should keep ot lower then that. I keep mine very low which effects growth but then again hydro is growing on crack anyways.

If you can I would start keeping your temps between 66 and 68 and no higher but a little lower is fine. Actually mine has been running between 64 and 66 which keeps the DO at very high levels and helps keep rot at bay.
 
foliage2018

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shawnery said:
It will be fine for a couple days no matter how much you put in it will all be gone in 3 days. As long as you're dosing everyday you should be fine for a couple days. If you want I would miss the day prior to leaving and then do a full dose the day you leave. I just don't want to burn your roots to bad even though ot won't kill your girls it's not great either.

22c is right on the line for asking for issues in hydro. Up to 72-74 could he fine in a perfect system, as close to, but you really should keep ot lower then that. I keep mine very low which effects growth but then again hydro is growing on crack anyways.

If you can I would start keeping your temps between 66 and 68 and no higher but a little lower is fine. Actually mine has been running between 64 and 66 which keeps the DO at very high levels and helps keep rot at bay.
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The temp of the res was never above 72F. But when the water in the bucket is in the room temp of 80F - it gets up to 77F quickly. But if those roots won't be sitting in that water all the time - they get a fresh cooled water every time it is flooded.
 
shawnery

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I have memory issues from a huge motorcycle racing accident so excuse me if its been mentioned.

Do you run a cooler and if not is you res outside your grow room? I ask because you can control water temps better by having the res outside of the heated space.
 
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