Next on stage... ... ... Rita Fang and the Alibaba QBs!

[whytewidow]

I imagine they buy reject top bin diodes. They are probably s6 diodes. That were rejected for small minimal imperfections or tolerances. Samsung probably still sells them. But lists them as s6 diodes. But not good enough quality for actual s6 binning. Just a guess. They buy them by the reels. Probably packs n packs. Then places them on boards. And runs them through the oven to flow solder them. And bc the bag says s6 on it from Samsung. They list them as s6. Even though probably in Samsung eyes they werent up to quality standards and rejects them. Aside from the one dude posting results and being deleted immediately on fb. Is kinda strange. But who knows. Hope everything works out in your favor though.

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

I imagine they buy reject top bin diodes. They are probably s6 diodes. That were rejected for small minimal imperfections or tolerances. Samsung probably still sells them. But lists them as s6 diodes. But not good enough quality for actual s6 binning. Just a guess. They buy them by the reels. Probably packs n packs. Then places them on boards. And runs them through the oven to flow solder them. And bc the bag says s6 on it from Samsung. They list them as s6. Even though probably in Samsung eyes they werent up to quality standards and rejects them. Aside from the one dude posting results and being deleted immediately on fb. Is kinda strange. But who knows. Hope everything works out in your favor though.

Well I thought the lower testing chips were downgraded to a lower bin? Or are they the ones that make up the low end of the flux range, so still top-end s5 flux bin? Very peculiar about the FB post deletion, and thanks

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

^^^ If this is the case, then they are a great deal compared to what others sell QBs for, and an example of how a competitive price isn't indicative of poor quality..

 

[OLD MOTHER SATIVA]

hey chief..there is no hater brigade ..don't be so sensitive..we all are behind you ..you are doing good

i know my last order with china company they sent me the 561 s6 bags..


though i guess they coulda been from ebay[jk]


hopefully you get to the "sphere thang"

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

hey chief..there is no hater brigade ..don't be so sensitive..we all are behind you ..you are doing good

i know my last order with china company they sent me the 561 s6 bags..


though i guess they coulda been from ebay[jk]


hopefully you get to the "sphere thang"

Haha alright thanks man, and are you hinting that you received what you ordered? Or that's its the same pic I got? Sorry been hitting this cherry pie and kinda cloudy

Is ebay a no fly zone for QBs?

 

[OLD MOTHER SATIVA]

Haha alright thanks man, and are you hinting that you received what you ordered? Or that's its the same pic I got? Sorry been hitting this cherry pie and kinda cloudy

Is ebay a no fly zone for QBs?

1.maybe i got 56 c s6..the bags need a sphere test.....don't worry..they made the panels the wrong size.

and .not same co as rita


2,ebay was just a joke about the 561cs 6 bags..and they coulda bought em there...

doubt it though

 

[sethimus]

I don't see what's wrong with price comparison? If you search for the highest prices, then more power to you (if you're convinced that nullify's scams), Ill continue to let price influence my decision, especially when they claim money back if they are not identical items and after I tell them I will be testing them.

Scenario:
Buy 304 boards without 660nm for [($47 + $39 for heat sink + shipping) + (~$40 for 660nm)] × (θ).
~$126 × θ


Buy 304 boards with 660nm for [($50 heatsink and shipping)] × (θ)
~$50 × θ

They are C chips, so it's the difference between s5 and s6, or what people have stated as a 5-7% difference in effeciency.

Ill pay $50 + testing fees on the chance of a total cost of $400 vs $1,000. That's a $600 difference in only 2 tents. Spend $150 to make $450 is 3 ($450) to 1 ($150) on my money, if there's a 1 in 3 chance they are s6 then that bet breaks even.. and an educated risk. Plus s5 is pretty good as well if shit hits the fan and I don't get a refund. So there is only upside minus the cost of the test and initial board, imo.

This scenario was only 2 tents and you can see that the extrinsic value of a test like this grows with the order size. Ie the cost to benefit ratio decreases. Imagine the possible order size is this entire community and you can see the cost to benefit ratio is also very small. That's what we do here, we submit data to make a larger collective so that we can all draw on everyone's efforts instead of just trying to acumulate knowledge by self discovery or solo experiences (not talking about masturbation lol). It's just a piece of the archive.

Is 5-7% effeciency increase worth double the money? Because I'm a hobbyist Ill spend a little extra to find out how big the difference is before I hall off and pull the trigger on a bunch of the name brand..

Is it a waste of money? That will depend on what the test says and if they are bound to honor their word if they come back as s5. Will they still grow plants? Yep. Is it about getting genuine chips for you? No not really, slightly, but more or less the principle of the matter, and the data from the vis/non-vis ESD chip testing as well as definitive proof in what I have.

do you work for free? just asking, because you forgot to put a price on all that time you already spent whining and justifying in this thread + your time arguing with rita + the time you'll need to talk with people who can do the testing for you + the time you need to ship stuff and receive it + the time you'll gonna need to keep on arguing with rita + alibaba and god who knows else till you eventually will get your money back.

looks like a lot of time and effort to just be a cheap skate and "save money"

in the meantime, i bought 30 fb22b, that's 4320 diodes, for 588eur, enough to have them running at just 700mA, providing around 2,7µmol/j for 2 4x4 areas...

 

[JSheeze]

I dont think they make a s4 3500°K. Lol

From S5 to S6 is an upgrade. S6 to S5 would be a downgrade, or an example of a 'S5 stiff' lol

I guess I'm the only guy that cares lol. I know that when I post the results you'll all be watching to see what they are whether you chirp then or not. Don't understand the hate, I got warranted anger in this perpetuated lie or if it isn't a lie, then a great find and worth every penny of drama and all you will benefit from, like I said, where the downside? Unless you're holding out the data on vis/non-vis ESD flux that's also an additional upside.

Everybody drinking that Hater-ade..

I'm interested in seeing the results

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

do you work for free? just asking, because you forgot to put a price on all that time you already spent whining and justifying in this thread + your time arguing with rita + the time you'll need to talk with people who can do the testing for you + the time you need to ship stuff and receive it + the time you'll gonna need to keep on arguing with rita + alibaba and god who knows else till you eventually will get your money back.

looks like a lot of time and effort to just be a cheap skate and "save money"

in the meantime, i bought 30 fb22b, that's 4320 diodes, for 588eur, enough to have them running at just 700mA, providing around 2,7µmol/j for 2 4x4 areas...

That's $270 more. No 660nm. Congratulations. Do you bill yourself for your postings as time spent working? Why are you whining for free? lol gtfoh

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

for me its easy, if i buy from digikey i only pay german added value tax on the price that is shown on their website. all duty and shipping costs are included. arrives here from the us in less than 2 days. stuff i buy from china that has shipping included takes weeks till it arrives here and it's a gamble each time if it goes through customs unnoticed or if i need to pick it up at the customs office. if i want it fast i need to pay DHL for doing the customs for me + paying for shipping extra. add to that the possibility of getting ripped off and the choice where i buy is quite easy...

i don't buy ANYTHING from China unless i either don't need it for a couple of months...or there is just no other source for whatever it is.
not that i have a problem buying from the Chinese....my problem is the delivery time. they put your stuff in a crate, with all the other stuff in that area that's getting shipped overseas, and it sits in that crate till it gets full, then they seal it up and ship it out.....could be the next day, could be 3 months from now....before it even gets loaded on the slow ass ship.....

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

i don't buy ANYTHING from China unless i either don't need it for a couple of months...or there is just no other source for whatever it is.
not that i have a problem buying from the Chinese....my problem is the delivery time. they put your stuff in a crate, with all the other stuff in that area that's getting shipped overseas, and it sits in that crate till it gets full, then they seal it up and ship it out.....could be the next day, could be 3 months from now....before it even gets loaded on the slow ass ship.....

Ya I was wondering how I got em so fast. I thought there must be a satellite supplier state side. But I didn't know

 

[Ryante55]

Lol if I get it tested I have them by the balls! Me getting 10x my refund back or any sort of negotiating is contingent upon it! Since when do you read a business passage and accept getting ripped off as you lazily doze off to bed? Lol "welp that crafty salesman got me again today phyllis," lmao I cancelled the order and waited 4 days for confirmation they were s6 before giving the final ok to ship and place the order, I did my due diligence. I made them state they were s6 and told them they would be tested when I got them. They knew what they were getting into. I don't see why you and ryantee give a shit?
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I love how you make it out to be me not spending enough money though lol...
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Great quote lol being greedy about your money is probably a trait most successful businessmen have...

You won't be getting any money back but good luck with that. Dude we have seen this countless times you think your providing data haha you literally created this thread because your dumbass got cheated I have boards from this company and several others pretty sure this company did my custom boards. You are just crying so much it's rediculous get the test done what are you waiting for? I'll be here happy to admit I'm wrong but I'm guessing you just won't come back on here after you get the results

 

[Ryante55]

i don't buy ANYTHING from China unless i either don't need it for a couple of months...or there is just no other source for whatever it is.
not that i have a problem buying from the Chinese....my problem is the delivery time. they put your stuff in a crate, with all the other stuff in that area that's getting shipped overseas, and it sits in that crate till it gets full, then they seal it up and ship it out.....could be the next day, could be 3 months from now....before it even gets loaded on the slow ass ship.....

They ship samples fast it's just expensive

 

[Ryante55]

I dont think they make a s4 3500°K. Lol

From S5 to S6 is an upgrade. S6 to S5 would be a downgrade, or an example of a 'S5 stiff' lol

I guess I'm the only guy that cares lol. I know that when I post the results you'll all be watching to see what they are whether you chirp then or not. Don't understand the hate, I got warranted anger in this perpetuated lie or if it isn't a lie, then a great find and worth every penny of drama and all you will benefit from, like I said, where the downside? Unless you're holding out the data on vis/non-vis ESD flux that's also an additional upside.

Everybody drinking that Hater-ade..

Yeah your right everyone else is wrong or a "hater"...I'm sure that's the case I bet everyone you encounter in life is wrong and you are right...

 

[Ryante55]

That's $270 more. No 660nm. Congratulations. Do you bill yourself for your postings as time spent working? Why are you whining for free? lol gtfoh

You got 14 of those boards for $318?

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

You won't be getting any money back but good luck with that. Dude we have seen this countless times you think your providing data haha you literally created this thread because your dumbass got cheated I have boards from this company and several others pretty sure this company did my custom boards. You are just crying so much it's rediculous get the test done what are you waiting for? I'll be here happy to admit I'm wrong but I'm guessing you just won't come back on here after you get the results

Show me the data of the countless tests.. This is my avenue as a consumer to hold companies accountable when they have all the power. Go away troll...

... but good luck..

Thanks for the good luck buddy

I'll be here happy to admit I'm wrong but I'm guessing you just won't come back on here after you get the results

Happy to admit your wrong in what? I'm testing to figure if they are s5 or s6. What do you think they are? What are you going to admit based upon what result?

If they are s5 then I clearly got a better deal than spending double for s6 as well as a possible claim to a refund from a fraudulent sale, so a win (minus the cost of the test)... if they are s6 then a bigger win and worth the test price considering the money saved over buying from another supplier.

What are you arguing against that you'd have to admit later based on test results? What is your position? Seriously, I'm baffled. There is literally no way to argue against this scenario?

You just mad I made a thread about it? Well then, who the ridiculous crying baby now?

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

Yeah your right everyone else is wrong or a "hater"...I'm sure that's the case I bet everyone you encounter in life is wrong and you are right...

Lol what are you even talking about??? You are the definition of a Hater. Lmao.

You argue I should buy from a reputable dealer cause I got ripped off but then say you buy them and they make your boards?? Sounds like you know the company a little more personal and maybe that's why you fighting so hard for Rita?? Lol hearing wedding bells in your ears?? Lmao
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I put the thread together to help identify suspicious chips and put a company that is being shifty on blast. If you don't like it go the fuck away lol.
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I am getting the chips tested. You can tell Rita tonight lol

 

[JSheeze]

Lol what are you even talking about??? You are the definition of a Hater. Lmao.

You argue I should buy from a reputable dealer cause I got ripped off but then say you buy them and they make your boards?? Sounds like you know the company a little more personal and maybe that's why you fighting so hard for Rita?? Lol hearing wedding bells in your ears?? Lmao
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I put the thread together to help identify suspicious chips and put a company that is being shifty on blast. If you don't like it go the fuck away lol.
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I am getting the chips tested. You can tell Rita tonight lol

Don't mind the trolls, if you want to get them tested, get them tested, I'm curious, and everyone has an opinion

 

[whytewidow]

Smaller packages like QB boards and led strips are put in plane cargo. And flown over. Not on a boat. You get within 10-15 days. I've ordered from several different companies off of Alibaba and have never got anything past 13 days.

When are you getting them tested? And I wonder if there will be a problem that you are removing them from the board. Since it's too big to put in a sphere.... and then if they end up being legit or even s5's you gotta pay to red low the board to put the leds back? Or are you just biting the bullet on one panel that you're removing chips from? Jus curious.... I hooked up the supposed lm301b strips I got. Man they are super bright. Very nice white light. Maybe I got lucky and got actual lm301b diodes.

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

Smaller packages like QB boards and led strips are put in plane cargo. And flown over. Not on a boat. You get within 10-15 days. I've ordered from several different companies off of Alibaba and have never got anything past 13 days.

When are you getting them tested? And I wonder if there will be a problem that you are removing them from the board. Since it's too big to put in a sphere.... and then if they end up being legit or even s5's you gotta pay to red low the board to put the leds back? Or are you just biting the bullet on one panel that you're removing chips from? Jus curious.... I hooked up the supposed lm301b strips I got. Man they are super bright. Very nice white light. Maybe I got lucky and got actual lm301b diodes.

Ya just biting the bullet. Board was $25 plus the test can't be too bad. I've reached out to a few labs some with big spheres. Ill keep updating as I go. I haven't been given a quote yet.
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They are super bright. I know that I have lm561c's, just the difference between s5 and s6. I haven't found any lower flux bins in the 3500°k cct lm561C's than s5. I am testing for the sake of knowledge as well as the other reasons I stated.
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Yours look like lm301b's (or at least a 3030 package) but I can't say the voltage or flux bin.