Intellectual Dark Web

[UncleBuck]

I didn't say black people were dumber than white people.

huh

Yes, IQ testing is valid and the valid IQ testing they did found that there was a difference of one standard deviation between blacks and whites

 

[UncleBuck]

IQ testing and SAT scores should not be used for eugenics, or to label entire groups of people as averages are not indicative of individual merit.

tell that to the white supremacist eugenicists who funded the racist pseudoscience you've decided must be defended at all costs

"What is called for here is not genocide, the killing off of the population of incompetent cultures. But we do need to think realistically in terms of the 'phasing out' of such peoples.... Evolutionary progress means the extinction of the less competent. To think otherwise is mere sentimentality." - richard lynn

(Murray and Herrnstein wrote in the acknowledgements that The Bell Curve "benefited especially from the advice of" a Pioneer Fund eugenicist named Richard Lynn)

anyhoo, have fun defending your racist pseudoscience, ya dumb nazi

 

[ginjawarrior]

tell that to the white supremacist eugenicists who funded the racist pseudoscience you've decided must be defended at all costs

the ones who we already found out were dead long before murray started his book

"What is called for here is not genocide, the killing off of the population of incompetent cultures. But we do need to think realistically in terms of the 'phasing out' of such peoples.... Evolutionary progress means the extinction of the less competent. To think otherwise is mere sentimentality." - richard lynn

i've found the source of that oft repeated quote by you

it turns out richard lyn was reviewing a book by raymond cattel

Richard Lynn, "Review: A New Morality from Science: Beyondism." by R.B. Cattell. Pergamon Press, New York, 1972. Pages xvii and 482. Irish Journal of Psychology 2 #3 (Winter 1974).
A new book by Professor Cattell is always an exciting occasion, for his is certainly one of the most brilliant of contemporary psychologists. Before he was thirty he had devised the culture-free intelligence test and worked out a statistical technique for measuring the decline of the British national intelligence. Later he formulated the double g theory of fluid and crystallised intelligence and designed the world famous 16PF. And now we have his latest work: Beyondism. (205/6)

Beyondism! Whatever is it? It is a new system of ethics designed to bring about the improvement of the human species. We need a new system of ethics, Cattell begins by telling us, because the old ethics based on religion is so clearly breaking down throughout the world. The new ethics of Beyondism is based not on religion but on science. Its objective is the improvement of the human beings and society: a better world. The means of brining about this lie in the application of Darwin's law of evolution. (206)

People who considered the problem of how the world can be improved fall into one or other of two camps. On the one hand, there are those who believe it is possible to draw up a blueprint of the ideal society. Everything is to be planned. This is the vision of socialism. The alternative approach is that of conservatism. To the conservative, we are not able to tell what an improved society of the future would be like, any more than our primate ancestors could imagine human society, or mediaeval man the advances societies of today. In the fact of our limited powers of foresight and understanding, and the unknown discoveries which will be made in the fullness of time, the best course is to let a better society evolve gradually of its own accord.

Of these two approaches, Cattell places himself squarely in the conservative camp The problem, posed from he viewpoint of the conservation tradition, is not to sit down and plan a specification for Utopia, but to set up the conditions under which further evolutionary progress will occur. For this we need to go back to Darwin, for he gave us the master theory of the principles of evolution, applicable not only to the development of different species in the past but also to the future progress of mankind.

Now evolution takes place where there is a variety of different types who compete against one another, and in this competition the fittest survive and the unfit become extinct. This, therefore, should be the first principle in the design of human society. The requirement of diverse competing types applies both to societies and to individuals. Among societies the unit should be the nation and there should be the widest variety of different cultures. Some will be capitalist, some socialist, and some mixed economies. Some will be democracies, others oligarchies, and yet other dictatorships. They will have different religions, or none; and they will have different kinds and distributions of intelligence and personality qualities. The nations will compete, and in the competitive struggle the fittest will survive. (207)

If the evolutionary process is to bring its benefits, it has to be allowed to operate effectively. This means that incompetent societies have to be allowed to go to the wall. This is something we in advanced societies do not at present face up to and the reason for this, according to Cattell, is that we have become too soft-hearted. For instance, the foreign aid which we give to the under-developed world is a mistake, akin to keeping going incompetent species like the dinosaurs which are not fit for the competitive struggle for existence. What is called for here is not genocide, the killing off of the populations of incompetent cultures. But we do need to think realistically in terms of "phasing out" of such peoples. If the world is to evolve more better humans, then obviously someone has to make way for them otherwise we shall all be overcrowded. After all, ninety-eight per cent of the of the species known to zoologists are extinct. Evolutionary progress means the extinction of the less competent. To think otherwise is mere sentimentality.

As a general rule it would be best for national cultures to keep themselves to themselves and not to admit immigrants. There are several reasons for this. Isolation would give rise to societies with greater diversity and individuality, both culturally and genetically. Indeed, it would be desirable if the human race could evolve several different non-interbreeding species, since this would increase the options for evolution to work on. Another reason for discouraging migration is that migrants are often people of low genetic quality who reduce the efficiency of the population they join.

The first principle for evolutionary progress is therefore competition between diverse cultures. but we have to think also of the principles conducive to the efficiency of individual nations especially that of our own if we wish to be among the survivors.

It is of course necessary to improve the society by better education, health and so forth. Everyone agrees with that. But it is equally important to improve the genetic quality of society. Cattell maintains that in order to do this we need to encourage the intelligent people to have more children and the unintelligent to have fewer. And here, as in international relationships, the altruistic impulses have become unhealthily strong in advanced western societies. For just as in certain people the aggressive impulses, or the sexual impulses, can get out of hand, the same thing can occur with the altruistic impulses and has in fact occurred in advanced western societies. For example, we are too altruistic towards the poor. People are poor largely because they are incompetent and unintelligent. Such people should not be encouraged to breed. Conversely, we are too harsh to the rich. Progressive taxation, for example, is hard to justify. Why should the rich have to contribute more than anyone else through taxation to the maintenance of state services, since they do not benefit more from them? Morally, this cannot be justified. Eugenically, it is equally undesirable. For the rich are rich, broadly speaking, because they are intelligent and competent and we should encourage them to have more children. Let them keep their money and they may be persuaded to do so. We should allow the effects of competition full reign within societies as well as between societies. For it is through competition that evolutionary progress will take place.

Tough speaking, you man say. No doubt, but then Cattell is saying that this is a tough world. It is the law of evolution which is tough, and you cannot fight against the laws of nature. You have instead to work with them, working with the grain and not against it. Ignoring the laws of nature brings its own nemesis. Thus a society which has grown too soft towards its incompetents, encouraging them to multiply unduly, and places too great handicaps on its more efficient and enterprising, will itself become an incompetent society and will in time fall victim to a more vigorous nation. Moral defects within societies are thereby corrected in the competitive struggle between societies. The law of evolution cannot be fought or circumvented. We can ignore it, at our peril, or we can recognize it and work with it. But if all this -- nature red in tooth and claw -- seems harsh, we have to remember that this is the mechanism through which evolutionary progress takes place, through which man himself has evolved from more primitive forms of life, and through which future progress will occur.

https://ferris-pages.org/ISAR/bios/Cattell/lynn.htm

 

[wellthatwasfun]

tell that to the white supremacist eugenicists who funded the racist pseudoscience you've decided must be defended at all costs

There is no cost. lol

I'm just correcting you, ya big sweaty dumb ass.

"What is called for here is not genocide, the killing off of the population of incompetent cultures. But we do need to think realistically in terms of the 'phasing out' of such peoples.... Evolutionary progress means the extinction of the less competent. To think otherwise is mere sentimentality." - richard lynn

I don't care about Richard Lynn. He has never come up in discussion, and you're trying to play guilty by association, but no one is having any of it.

(Murray and Herrnstein wrote in the acknowledgements that The Bell Curve "benefited especially from the advice of" a Pioneer Fund eugenicist named Richard Lynn)

anyhoo, have fun defending your racist pseudoscience, ya dumb nazi

Still demonstrating you have no idea what a nazi is. Awesome. Double down on the stupid again. You're puitting on quite the show!

As for the "pseudoscience" claim, you mean science supported by many sources, and organizations including the APA and dozens of scholars.

None of this has anything to do with the "intellectual dark web".



^^ Looks like 6 Jews, 2 ex-muslims, some random academics and Joe Rogan. lol

 

[UncleBuck]

There is no cost. lol

I'm just correcting you, ya big sweaty dumb ass.



I don't care about Richard Lynn. He has never come up in discussion, and you're trying to play guilty by association, but no one is having any of it.


Still demonstrating you have no idea what a nazi is. Awesome. Double down on the stupid again. You're puitting on quite the show!

As for the "pseudoscience" claim, you mean science supported by many sources, and organizations including the APA and dozens of scholars.

None of this has anything to do with the "intellectual dark web".

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^^ Looks like 6 Jews, 2 ex-muslims, some random academics and Joe Rogan. lol

The APA in no way supports the racist pseudoscience in your nazi nooks

 

[UncleBuck]

it turns out richard lyn was reviewing a book by raymond cattel

so lynn, who is clearly in favor of ethnic cleansing, was praising some other nazi's book, but cross burner charles murray "benefitted especially from the advice of" ethnic cleanser richard lynn in his nazi book too. got it

not really helping your case here.

you might want to switch over to nazi apologia again and remind us that we would have no idea how long it takes to freeze a jew without the scientific advances of the nazi regime.

 

[ginjawarrior]

so lynn, who is clearly in favor of ethnic cleansing, was praising some other nazi's book, but cross burner charles murray "benefitted especially from the advice of" ethnic cleanser richard lynn in his nazi book too. got it

not really helping your case here.

you might want to switch over to nazi apologia again and remind us that we would have no idea how long it takes to freeze a jew without the scientific advances of the nazi regime.

bucks guilt by association (six steps to kevin bacon)

sam harris is a nazi because he did interview with murray

murray is a nazi because he spoke with lyn

lyn is a nazi because he reviewed a book by cattel

add in bullshit and misrepresentation on every step....

your a fucking weak arse liar buck

no ones buying your fascist bullshit here

 

[UncleBuck]

bucks guilt by association (six steps to kevin bacon)

sam harris is a nazi because he did interview with murray

murray is a nazi because he spoke with lyn

lyn is a nazi because he reviewed a book by cattel

add in bullshit and misrepresentation on every step....

your a fucking weak arse liar buck

no ones buying your fascist bullshit here

Lynn praises ethnic cleansing

Murray praised the ethnic cleanser

Sam Harris praises them both

Pretty straightforward

 

[ginjawarrior]

Lynn praises ethnic cleansing


Murray praised the ethnic cleanser

Sam Harris praises them both

Pretty straightforward

nope

nope

and nope...

and all of that rests on the shoulders of your bullshit idea that you should never ever talk to anyone who doesnt follow your fucked up reactionary political views

you can sit in your own echo chamber and keep spoon feeding yourself this bullshit all you want

but we arent buying it.

 

[UncleBuck]

nope

nope

and nope...

and all of that rests on the shoulders of your bullshit idea that you should never ever talk to anyone who doesnt follow your fucked up reactionary political views

you can sit in your own echo chamber and keep spoon feeding yourself this bullshit all you want

but we arent buying it.

Whose we? You and a couple dumb nazis?

Lynn praises ethnic cleansing

You can’t refute that

 

[ginjawarrior]

Whose we? You and a couple dumb nazis?

Lynn praises ethnic cleansing

You can’t refute that

not any by any definition that ive seen....

Ethnic cleansing
Description
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic or racial groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous. The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration, intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.Wikipedia

 

[UncleBuck]

not any by any definition that ive seen....

Ethnic cleansing
Description
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic or racial groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous. The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration, intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal rape.Wikipedia

Phasing out the less competent isn’t ethnic cleansing!

 

[ginjawarrior]

Phasing out the less competent isn’t ethnic cleansing!

Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic or racial groups

the book that lyn reviewed didnt look to be talking about forced systematic removal

it was saying to let them stand on their own 2 feet or to fail on their own

doing nothing is not ethnic cleansing by any definition

 

[UncleBuck]

Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic or racial groups

the book that lyn reviewed didnt look to be talking about forced systematic removal

it was saying to let them stand on their own 2 feet or to fail on their own

doing nothing is not ethnic cleansing by any definition

Non systematically phasing out the less competent cultures here, can’t send me to The Hague

 

[ginjawarrior]

Non systematically phasing out the less competent cultures here, can’t send me to The Hague

yeah its very hard to charge someone with doing nothing

as it meets none of the criteria of "ethnic cleansing"

 

[UncleBuck]

yeah its very hard to charge someone with doing nothing

as it meets none of the criteria of "ethnic cleansing"

Yeah phasing out the less competent cultures is never a bad thing if you’re a nazi

 

[ginjawarrior]

Yeah phasing out the less competent cultures is never a bad thing if you’re a nazi

either way.. you can keep the pretense up that expecting civilizations to stand on their own 2 feet is "ethnic cleansing"

but that doesnt change the fact that this thread isnt about lyn or the book he reviewed

and the only reason we're talking about it is your bullshit game of keving bacon to call harris a nazi

 

[UncleBuck]

either way.. you can keep the pretense up that expecting civilizations to stand on their own 2 feet is "ethnic cleansing"

but that doesnt change the fact that this thread isnt about lyn or the book he reviewed

and the only reason we're talking about it is your bullshit game of keving bacon to call harris a nazi

I wouldn’t defend the phasing out out of less competent cultures on holocaust Remembrance Day but im not a nazi

 

[ginjawarrior]

I wouldn’t defend the phasing out out of less competent cultures on holocaust Remembrance Day but im not a nazi

i think its disgusting that you use the jewish dead in your bullshit...

letting nature takes its course is nothing like the systematic forced removal the nazi used against the jews

 

[UncleBuck]

i think its disgusting that you use the jewish dead in your bullshit...

letting nature takes its course is nothing like the systematic forced removal the nazi used against the jews

You’d have made an outstanding nazi