I really want to do a few large hash plants in the summer outdoors and just do something like this with them and get a bulk amount of concentrate to use for whatever (edibles salves for friends and relatives) but so paranoid about fly overs and sht here lol
Just plant it on your neighbors property
It was back in the day when all of the concentrates and forums were just getting going and I remember me and my buddy would double boil bricks (the brown you'd get wrapped in foil lmao) in ISO for hours upon hours. The house would wreak! Finally we'd be done and the oil would be black and sticky as shit. Like a sludge. We'd save a few oz from each lb and turn em into powder to throw back into the sludge so you could handle it without it sticking. We called it Habibi. Lmao. Strong as shit and looked like caviar. Tasted like ISO lmao 
ha thats awesome! the most recent pic was my second attempt my first was above and was pretty decent I thought. I made sure to look up a lot of info including @Thundercat 's method (which is basically what I went off) Now I need to try to make some edibles out of my 3rd wash results.... 1 batch that will work for me and one for some friends that dont really smoke and just want something for medicinal and to help with anxiety and pain.If this was your first run, it turned out really well. Lol you shoulda seen my first QWISO... LMAO
Silicone does react with Iso. The reason it swells is the reaction. I googled (is that a word?) it and it does not say it leeches/strips it, true.Same was said about butane and silicone until everyone found out about that. Cant find a edu website or similar just forums and whatnot.
I am all good pressing it all together AFTER all the ISO has evaped out though right that is all I use the parchment for that and storage.
as far as ethanol... I really dont know that I can justify the RIDICULOUS cost difference between ISO and ethanol... like 45 for a 1.75 liter of everclear vs iso cost you posted earlier.. blech... heck I dont even think actual RSO made by the man himself was using that lol
Yeah rick used fucking namptha LOL. If your iso oil, or mine, or his etc., was submitted to a lab to be tested im sure there would be beyond acceptabl trace amounts of iso or whatever is used. People with dispensaries get that stuff to acceptable levels I presume to not sell toxic to the public and be fined. Me and you dont have that tech to know I think. So, I guess we make with what we can. Ethanol is more expensive for sure but its safer than iso and butane because it can be consumed by humans.
Yeah I am all out on the Butane stuff unless I were to get a vaccum chamber and heat mat and all that stuff. Really the main thing that is different in ISO VS ethanol is the chemical they add to iso so people that are hard up wont go buy a cheap ass bottle of that vs a cheap ass bottle of hooch lol
They don't add anything to Isopropyl alcohol. It is medical grade only not drinkable. But it is only ISO and water so it completely evaporates. I would really bet that properly evape ISO oil would test just fine in a lab. I hope to prove that in the next couple months. I recently got access to testing opportunities.
Ah ok gotcha
I pour my soaked BHO into a Pyrex with standing IPA in it. The IPA will keep the solution in a low viscosity state and give the butane the time and ability to evap off. I apply a lil heat to encourage the butane to go, and then when there's no more butane bubbles and its just standing IPA, I then pour the solution onto parchment to purge. I don't use any vaccum tech.
Huh interesting and this gives you a sufficient purge you think? I have never heard of this before... not that I have looked into BHO that much.I pour my soaked BHO into a Pyrex with standing IPA in it. The IPA will keep the solution in a low viscosity state and give the butane the time and ability to evap off. I apply a lil heat to encourage the butane to go, and then when there's no more butane bubbles and its just standing IPA, I then pour the solution onto parchment to purge. I don't use any vaccum tech.
Absolutely. I used to use butane with mercapton in it, the stinky stuff, and thinning was the only way to get rid of the butane and mercapton all the way (without vaccuum tech). If I couldn't smell the mercapton then I knew I was below .00073ppm. (See attached .pdf, mercaptons are used in most petroleum based solvents, methyl, butyl, ethyl, propyl, ect, ) Instead of waiting for the BHO to slowly evap off outside, you can have 60-70°f IPA to quickly evap the BHO off outside and then you can finish your purge inside in a more private and controlled environment.
huh interesting... is there a large difference between BHO and QWISO? In my mind seems like if you get a great product with the QWISO method why would I even mess with the risks of BHO. Maybe its just one of those different strokes different folks type of deals lol.
BHO won't pull chlorophyll out well, so it's easier to get a yellow or light colored extraction. However lots of BHO guys redisolve their BHO in ethanol and "winterize" it. It removes the fats and lipids extracted by the butane. Essentially doin both technique.
Ya, pretty much just personal preference.
thanks for all this great info man! I think for now I will stick to the QWISO and work with that for a while. Keep learning and maybe try to prep an area to safely run some BHO.Ya, pretty much just personal preference.
The Butane does a really good job at getting all the good stuff without any of the bad in only one run, the IPA picks up a lot of undesirables and I typically do multiple runs in case I missed anything previously (if using IPA).
Butane is NON-POLAR, meaning the molecule doesn't have a negative and positive side because its equally charged all around due to its structure.
IPA is an alcohol and is neither non-polar or polar because it has parts that's act as each. (The hydroxide is polar (OH-) and the carbon portion is NON-POLAR or evenly charged) The reason you do the IPA washes so god-dam-cold is to freeze any water based particles or polar particles so they are not dissolved by the polar side of the IPA and water mixture. Water is a polar molecule.
The reason people freeze butane extractions is to freeze the waxes that make up the tric stalk and head that are non polar and will be dissolved with the butane (as well as butane is a gas at over 32°f so it has to be cold to "wash" with it). Lipids and waxes freeze at warmer temps than canabinoids.
If you want all the good stuff in one run, butane's your girl, but IPA can be just as good and none of the outdoor BS. If you got lots of material IPA the cheaper route, so its just all personal, IMO.
You got the hang of QWISO by the looks of your pics
. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Lol