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ColoradoHighGrower

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This chart is intentionally missing the most meaningful column to make a misleading point. %congress/%population:
Christians: 88.2/71= 1.24x overrepresented
Jews: 6.4/2= 3.2× overrepresented
Others:3.4/1= 3.4x overrepresented
 

NaturalFarmer

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My beef with christianity is that it’s inherently anti-intellectual, it requires suppressing integrity.
You paint with a broad brush but I am curious as to why you think this. I respect you opinion @Sativied (I think) but I don't understand what you mean by suppressing integrity (are they suppressing their own integrity). I knew many Christians when I was in the military and many (not all) but a great deal IMO had a high amount integrity and it seemed to me more so than the general public. Maybe this was due to the ethos that the serving in the military brings.

What intellect are they missing overall in your opinion?
 

Sativied

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This chart is intentionally missing the most meaningful column to make a misleading point. %congress/%population:
Christians: 88.2/71= 1.24x overrepresented
Jews: 6.4/2= 3.2× overrepresented
Others:3.4/1= 3.4x overrepresented
Did you read the title of the chart? The whole points is to show they are overreperesented.

Arg, are you seriously suggesting the relative ratio means more than the absolute values?
 

Fogdog

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This chart is intentionally missing the most meaningful column to make a misleading point. %congress/%population:
Christians: 88.2/71= 1.24x overrepresented
Jews: 6.4/2= 3.2× overrepresented
Others:3.4/1= 3.4x overrepresented
Why do you say "intentionally"?
 

ColoradoHighGrower

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I simply assumed so, based on how misleading the presentation of the data is and the title of the table. Clearly there's a skew in the totals with Congress, not arguing or defending that, but the definition of "over represented" requires the ratio of the two totals for proportionality. More of a technicality that I'm calling out, that's all.
 

tangerinegreen555

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Politicians who claim to believe the bible is god’s word should be forced to read it out loud, and say “I believe this to be divine truth” every few sentences. It’s too vile and absurd to do that with a straight face.
I believe she would do it. With that same straight face.


If that isn't the face of religion in DC these days, what is?

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'God wanted Trump elected' is proof they're fanatically insane.
 

NaturalFarmer

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Make no mistake that religious bigotry is alive and well with the Democrats. They dont even pretend to hide it anymore. Such tolerance
 

Sativied

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You paint with a broad brush but I am curious as to why you think this. I respect you opinion @Sativied (I think) but I don't understand what you mean by suppressing integrity (are they suppressing their own integrity). I knew many Christians when I was in the military and many (not all) but a great deal IMO had a high amount integrity and it seemed to me more so than the general public. Maybe this was due to the ethos that the serving in the military brings.

What intellect are they missing overall in your opinion?
I painted that brush on “Christianity” the religion. Plenty who try to live up to the positive image of the good christian they have. Those who would freak out if they’d actually read the bible front to back, openminded. And then argue those old testament parts of their omniscient omnipowerful God’s divine ultimate truth can be ignored.

Christianity is the belief God sacrificed God to God to save God's creation from God. Talking donkeys, lame disproven creation story, ordering to kill babies while being omnipotent and omnibenevolent (“the problem of evil”). Unconditional love with conditions. Zombie Jesus, not known to any scribes or historians when he lived, not written about till a hundred years plus later, for a book of which there are no originals, just copies of copies of poorly translated and edited copies.

The reason atheists don’t believe in Christianity is the same reason Christians don’t believe in hindu gods. Being a Christian requires constantly applying special pleading fallacies. Terrible excercise for the brain.

Besides having to accept ludicrous contradictory (thus against one of the three fundamental laws of thought) nonsense, christianity itself needs anti-intellectualism to survive. It’s a christian tradition from the start and doesn’t go well with maintaining integrity. Don’t eat the apple from the tree of knowledge.

Read Richard Hofstadter’s books (from 1963-65), an American historian who over 50 years ago already described the problem in America. Some of his stuff reads like it was written very recently.

Or.... watch Smallfoot :D
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6182908/
Good for deprogramming christian kids and teaching them to question everything.
 

Fogdog

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I simply assumed so, based on how misleading the presentation of the data is and the title of the table. Clearly there's a skew in the totals with Congress, not arguing or defending that, but the definition of "over represented" requires the ratio of the two totals for proportionality. More of a technicality that I'm calling out, that's all.
Hey look, SQUIRREL
 

NaturalFarmer

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@Sativied I think the ritualistic portions that many Christians envelop loses the true meaning of Christs teachings, which is absolute love. Love and charity bring the best out of people in any religion. I do see where you are coming from and lived much of my life repelling my faith and belief because of a disconnect that I felt from religion all religion's in general. There are teachings thoughout the Bible that help me and guide me during good times and bad and sometimes in the same teachings. I had moments of facing giants in my life which I conquered like David as well as times that the fear of king Saul possessed me when his army cowarded back to the tents. To me and many others, Christ gives me strength and guidance for compassion and time to reflect on something bigger than all of this. My time with God is the best time of my day. I know I'm not perfect but I strive to be. I strive to love like Jesus did and I see nothing wrong in that for anyone. Too many people are in need of love in this world. Too many people are desperate and I know that helping them with no wanted return is what/who Jesus was /is to me.
 

tangerinegreen555

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@Sativied I think the ritualistic portions that many Christians envelop loses the true meaning of Christs teachings, which is absolute love. Love and charity bring the best out of people in any religion. I do see where you are coming from and lived much of my life repelling my faith and belief because of a disconnect that I felt from religion all religion's in general. There are teachings thoughout the Bible that help me and guide me during good times and bad and sometimes in the same teachings. I had moments of facing giants in my life which I conquered like David as well as times that the fear of king Saul possessed me when his army cowarded back to the tents. To me and many others, Christ gives me strength and guidance for compassion and time to reflect on something bigger than all of this. My time with God is the best time of my day. I know I'm not perfect but I strive to be. I strive to love like Jesus did and I see nothing wrong in that for anyone. Too many people are in need of love in this world. Too many people are desperate and I know that helping them with no wanted return is what/who Jesus was /is to me.
You're going to surprised as fuck when you die.

Actually, you're not.

If something can't be scientifically and factually proven, it's just another fairy tale.

You like Mother Goose too?
 

Unclebaldrick

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@Sativied I think the ritualistic portions that many Christians envelop loses the true meaning of Christs teachings, which is absolute love. Love and charity bring the best out of people in any religion. I do see where you are coming from and lived much of my life repelling my faith and belief because of a disconnect that I felt from religion all religion's in general. There are teachings thoughout the Bible that help me and guide me during good times and bad and sometimes in the same teachings. I had moments of facing giants in my life which I conquered like David as well as times that the fear of king Saul possessed me when his army cowarded back to the tents. To me and many others, Christ gives me strength and guidance for compassion and time to reflect on something bigger than all of this. My time with God is the best time of my day. I know I'm not perfect but I strive to be. I strive to love like Jesus did and I see nothing wrong in that for anyone. Too many people are in need of love in this world. Too many people are desperate and I know that helping them with no wanted return is what/who Jesus was /is to me.
I, uh, understand you much better now. Every day, when I think "what kind of fucking idiot do you have to be to still support that asshole Trump?", I will think of you.
 

UncleBuck

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@Sativied I think the ritualistic portions that many Christians envelop loses the true meaning of Christs teachings, which is absolute love. Love and charity bring the best out of people in any religion. I do see where you are coming from and lived much of my life repelling my faith and belief because of a disconnect that I felt from religion all religion's in general. There are teachings thoughout the Bible that help me and guide me during good times and bad and sometimes in the same teachings. I had moments of facing giants in my life which I conquered like David as well as times that the fear of king Saul possessed me when his army cowarded back to the tents. To me and many others, Christ gives me strength and guidance for compassion and time to reflect on something bigger than all of this. My time with God is the best time of my day. I know I'm not perfect but I strive to be. I strive to love like Jesus did and I see nothing wrong in that for anyone. Too many people are in need of love in this world. Too many people are desperate and I know that helping them with no wanted return is what/who Jesus was /is to me.
no one seems to like you
 

Bugeye

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I answered before researching. Now i found this.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/14/if-the-u-s-had-100-people-charting-americans-religious-affiliations/?amp=1


If the U.S. contained just 100 adults, 25 would be people who identify with evangelical Protestant denominations, 23 would be religiously unaffiliated and 21 would be Catholic. Just two would be Mormon, two would be Jewish and one would be Muslim.
What does it mean when a country of 100 takes a religious affiliation census that only totals to 74?
 
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