basically let em get too wet from the get go and not under a proper light to kickstart em. Was using an old heating pad that was smaller than the plug tray size, had the humidity, but it got cold in that room at night, think it was the wetness and the coolness. Bought a seedmat. Next batch, under a bigger light, they bounced right up it seems. Im fixin to pop another pile, and I think I got everything covered, so we'll go from there, wish me luck, lol. I did notice I got a lil impatient this last time and I won't be so inclined to give up on em, Ima thinkin also