NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

bubba73

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Lack of nitrogen or too much in your amended soil?
not lack of .. just don't wanna use more one shot in flower cause mite get nitrogen overload ....with my amended soil I got a few fungus gnats so thats telling me I have more fungus then bacteria in soil... being fixed as we speak ...
 

IrieRoots

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Fungus gnats just need wet decaying organic matter, which fungus thrives in too. I can open a new bag of #4 and the bastards Buzz out!! They get in at grow shop I'm sure. If your gnats are real bad, those little pot poppers with live nematodes level the playing field real quick. Pest control in organics need to be 2 or 3 prong defense/offense. My castings have Rove beetles and predator mites, prolly nematodes too, plus things like frass/crab for chitin, neem meal is amazing in so many ways for bad bugs, keep things a little dryer, yellow sticky traps, tweetmint enzymes, IPM foliars....and keeping a super healthy plant is one of the best pest deterant.
 

IrieRoots

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I've got some new products I'm gonna be trying soon, I'm such a sucker for high end organic products. I re-up'd on some staples for the garden that I refuse to go without -- Liquid Fish Amino Acid ferment (FAA) & Colorado Worm Co. Castings, replenshed my low Nectar bottles, and some ThermX70 yucca. Had plenty of Be1, Full-on thank God....Ful-power too, SLF, and still chipping away at my Cultured, plus a number of misc. spore form microbials!! These are all the usual suspects that all have perminant residence on my shelf!! But I want to incorporate more Korean Natural Farming techniques(KNF) so I'm gonna be introducing some new things to the garden that geared towards feeding the soil, I'm trying Homegrown Bokashi' blends in place of regular....they are different blends for certain stages of growth and I will still be incorporating BE1 pellets. I got their smallest kit, there is a mineral blend, a seed sprout blend, a crab & kelp, a ocean & kelp, and a guano bloom blend. I also got a small KNF kit from Country Roots that has a bunch of different liquid ferments, plant & fruit extracts for Veg & 3 Bloom formulas, a water soluble calcium, some lacto bacillus serum(LABS), and the knf must - OHN....it's a ferment of 12 different herbs that acts as an immune booster/vitamins/enzymes/IPM. It too is based around stages of growth. And last but not least I got a small kit from Mountain Organic Botanicals that is similar to these others but more targeted to IPM, Its 4 different foliar tonics that can mixed or used alone, its a seed sprout tonic, a neem tonic, a saponin emulsifier tonic, and an herbal tonic. Can't wait to see what they can do alongside Nectar!! Might even fill a pot with my LOS mix as these inputs are all designed for no till, recycled soil styles. All of Bubbas talk with his ammended soil has me wanting to pull my tub of soil out!!
 

IrieRoots

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I had some xmas gift cards and just finished a nice electrical side job so I went a little crazy and splurged on the stuff I been eye balling lately!! LOL.....didn't need the Colorado castings but they are fire and diversity is , I use regular bokashi so figured lets see what bokashi with a kick can do. And I got tired of paying so much for EM-1, I can get way more out of the KNF stuff as it's more targeted to growth stages and still built on anaerobic microbes like EM1. And I love foliars!! I'm pumped, will definitely be sharing what I find from the new stuff!!
 

bubba73

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I've got some new products I'm gonna be trying soon, I'm such a sucker for high end organic products. I re-up'd on some staples for the garden that I refuse to go without -- Liquid Fish Amino Acid ferment (FAA) & Colorado Worm Co. Castings, replenshed my low Nectar bottles, and some ThermX70 yucca. Had plenty of Be1, Full-on thank God....Ful-power too, SLF, and still chipping away at my Cultured, plus a number of misc. spore form microbials!! These are all the usual suspects that all have perminant residence on my shelf!! But I want to incorporate more Korean Natural Farming techniques(KNF) so I'm gonna be introducing some new things to the garden that geared towards feeding the soil, I'm trying Homegrown Bokashi' blends in place of regular....they are different blends for certain stages of growth and I will still be incorporating BE1 pellets. I got their smallest kit, there is a mineral blend, a seed sprout blend, a crab & kelp, a ocean & kelp, and a guano bloom blend. I also got a small KNF kit from Country Roots that has a bunch of different liquid ferments, plant & fruit extracts for Veg & 3 Bloom formulas, a water soluble calcium, some lacto bacillus serum(LABS), and the knf must - OHN....it's a ferment of 12 different herbs that acts as an immune booster/vitamins/enzymes/IPM. It too is based around stages of growth. And last but not least I got a small kit from Mountain Organic Botanicals that is similar to these others but more targeted to IPM, Its 4 different foliar tonics that can mixed or used alone, its a seed sprout tonic, a neem tonic, a saponin emulsifier tonic, and an herbal tonic. Can't wait to see what they can do alongside Nectar!! Might even fill a pot with my LOS mix as these inputs are all designed for no till, recycled soil styles. All of Bubbas talk with his ammended soil has me wanting to pull my tub of soil out!!
damn ! taking it to an all new level , sweet !!!!! I had to restock on nectar myself ... like the sound of homegrown Bokashi blends .... get those tubs out and start amending !!!! like the no till.... rock on !!
 

IrieRoots

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And the cool thing about the KNF style is it can all be made DIY, so that might be cool. I already grow dynamic accumilators in my outdoor veggie beds like comfrey, borage, etc....which can be chopped and dropped as TopD or even added to AACT. Gotta love ORGANICS!!
 

bubba73

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I had some xmas gift cards and just finished a nice electrical side job so I went a little crazy and splurged on the stuff I been eye balling lately!! LOL.....didn't need the Colorado castings but they are fire and diversity is , I use regular bokashi so figured lets see what bokashi with a kick can do. And I got tired of paying so much for EM-1, I can get way more out of the KNF stuff as it's more targeted to growth stages and still built on anaerobic microbes like EM1. And I love foliars!! I'm pumped, will definitely be sharing what I find from the new stuff!!
Gonna research the KNF .....
 

IrieRoots

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It's hard to turn away from Nectar, I'm an addict.....thats what has brought me to incorporating all this cool stuff!! But having a side by side Buildasoil style verses Nectar is totally doable and I will prolly learn even more doing so.
 

bubba73

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It's hard to turn away from Nectar, I'm an addict.....thats what has brought me to incorporating all this cool stuff!! But having a side by side Buildasoil style verses Nectar is totally doable and I will prolly learn even more doing so.
that will be interesting to see the results !!!
 

IrieRoots

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No till has come a long way since I first tried it.....everyone preached the water only, while now there is water/feed schedules to really capitalize on flavor/colors/yield/etc. It always was either too hot early or ran out of gas late for me. But I know a lot more now so confident I can dial it in.
 

IrieRoots

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Gonna research the KNF .....
Its a rabbit hole but a good one!! They say it unlocks different Terp profiles. I even been hearing stuff about trying to mimic the light spectrum and soil microbes for particular genetic your growing in order to get full expression. You have to know the genetics first, which is hard in the poly hybrid world, but breeders are working in this direction. Harvesting indigenous microbes and building light spectrums to the latitude/longitude of the strains land race heritage. And most of these guys are KNF growers, its 100+ year old gardening practices.
 

IrieRoots

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The bokashi blends are from - Homegrown Microbe Bokashi, brick & mortar small batch business. They were super cool.....we chatted on IG for a couple hours about their stuff, super nice and They gave me like a 30% off coupon code to use plus free priority shipping.
 

IrieRoots

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Shit nectar is an enzymatic ferment, much like KNF. If you really wanted to you could make your Nectar style nutrients by fermenting meals and such, would be difficult as all he'll to know how to measure what but could totally be done.
 

zzeroo

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I learn so much from you guys we do all the same things but with our own styles, i don't amend my #4 i do TopD and feed teas, as a matter of fact, I don't even use as much SLF any more don't need to with the teas and things.
 

IrieRoots

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I learn so much from you guys we do all the same things but with our own styles, i don't amend my #4 i do TopD and feed teas, as a matter of fact, I don't even use as much SLF any more don't need to with the teas and things.
I've always used SLF, I've used it in low doses like instructions, and I've gone heavy in relation to HERC feeds and to this day it's the one bottle I get mad at when I have to buy another. I know it's doing something but I can never tell. It never eats up the gum like they preach, like your saying zero, with Teas/TopD and Bokashi I get better results with gum and I see the plant respond. I think I'm going to use more sparingly myself but still keep it around for flushes based on SLURRIES. I'm glad you brought this up, I'm sure others have the same thought towards it. I even stopped using mammoth P, just don't get the results to justify its need.
 

bubba73

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I learn so much from you guys we do all the same things but with our own styles, i don't amend my #4 i do TopD and feed teas, as a matter of fact, I don't even use as much SLF any more don't need to with the teas and things.
very nice !!!! good job !! I still use SLF ,but right now im 4 weeks away so im pushing pretty hard .. maybe we can get you to amend again ....
 

bubba73

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SLF don't even use in flush "ripening " its good for flushing salts out to start nectar .. like Fishsh!t don't see anything , again good for a flush , photo plus don't see anything really maybe its what happens in the dirt ? who knows ... another tip ! before you chop do a slurry and have your ppm below 300 , hardly any food in soil and will take more sugars from leafs to the flower ...
 
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