NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

IrieRoots

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They have been handling it very well. I fed on Sunday, checked back on Wednesday and some of my colas gained several inches of height. They are exploding with growth. The buds are about the same size as my last harvest when I chopped it, pretty crazy how the week 4 buds are bigger than buds of my old harvest at 8 weeks. I'm curious to see how huge they get in a month from now.
I have also added Mega Morpheus recently and my plants seem to love it.

The only bottles I am missing are Hygeia Hydration, Triton's Trawl, Poseidonzyme, The Kraken, and Pegasus Potion. Do you think these are worth adding to my regimen?
I love them all but don't use in every feed, Kraken & Tritons prolly my favorite out of whole line. If you need yucca get thermx70 its 80% yucca were hygeia is only 4%. But I would figure out the line with what you have, then start adding bottles. You can email them direct and get a full sample kit for like $30 tops!!
 

bubba73

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I didn't catch the week 4, sorry, I would do 2 TBS Herc ph to 6.4, then when they are ready for next watering....do a slurry first. Get in range like Bubba just said.....Flush again if high still, if in range, I recommend a GAIA feed/flush at 2 Tbs. Ph 6.4. Its so gentle, and will tie up more salts and introduce some food. Like bubba said too, prolly 2 weeks for the plant to adjust to new feed, just force it or it could be longer.
right on !!! agree with Irie !!!! just be careful and don't force it...
 

IrieRoots

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Might want to do a Slurry test DoubleX, that much BK can crash your soil!! I would say it's definitely what exploded your bud growth, but it can only do that so much and the reserves in the soil have to be there. But if it's working.....rock on man, you always want to do better than the last grow....and so on, and so on....Always learning, Always growing!
 

bubba73

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funny thing ..look at my amended soil tonite , the 2 dryer bins has white fuzz growing , the 3 bins which are wetter have none. I guess its to wet for the fuzz to grow , so im gonna let that soil dry out for awhile...update , just added some milled malted barely to the ones with the fuzz growing ....
 
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IrieRoots

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funny thing ..look at my amended soil tonite , the 2 dryer bins has white fuzz growing , the 3 bins which are wetter have none. I guess its to wet for the fuzz to grow , so im gonna let that soil dry out for awhile...update , just added some milled malted barely to the ones with the fuzz growing ....
Its happened to me before too, I couldn't figure it out.....best guess is that another species of microbe has taken up the space where the the fuzz wants to grow.....a theory anyways!! I keep a bucket with airtight lid to bokashi compost plant parts, they ferment fast, then I bury in a bag of CofM Lobster compost to finish. Once finished, I feed it to the worms or start a new worm bin with it. Makes for ultra quality castings. Anyways, what made me think on this, is the FUZZ, sometimes I open the bokashi bucket after a 2-3 day old fresh topping and theres NO fuzz? Sometimes it's a jungle!! I don't get it.....but it still seems to do its thing, maintains a sweet vinegary fermented smell.
 

hawse

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advice... start using nectar on the next run.. do not switch in this stage , what soil are you using ?
Yeah, I'm probably just going to wait for the next run, the ones I have going now are doing so darn well, I hate to mess anything up. I'm starting new veg right now anyway, so will just start with those plants... I normally use Happy Frog, but also picked up some of the NFTG soil at my local place...
 

IrieRoots

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Yeah, I'm probably just going to wait for the next run, the ones I have going now are doing so darn well, I hate to mess anything up. I'm starting new veg right now anyway, so will just start with those plants... I normally use Happy Frog, but also picked up some of the NFTG soil at my local place...
Roll with nectar on the new run mos def!! For now, You can tie up those Foxfarm salts with Herc flushes as necessary and definitely at the end!! Just PH to 6.4/6.5 with Oly up and saturate pots.
 

bubba73

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Yeah, I'm probably just going to wait for the next run, the ones I have going now are doing so darn well, I hate to mess anything up. I'm starting new veg right now anyway, so will just start with those plants... I normally use Happy Frog, but also picked up some of the NFTG soil at my local place...
whats nice with #4 soil is the ph is around 7.0 and the ppm are below 300 , after a few feedings everything will be in range ...not like other soils where you gotta slurry it and flush to get in range .. already behind the eight ball... but as always with fresh soil or amended soil always slurry before you plant /transplant ....
 

IrieRoots

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whats nice with #4 soil is the ph is around 7.0 and the ppm are below 300 , after a few feedings everything will be in range ...not like other soils where you gotta slurry it and flush to get in range .. already behind the eight ball... but as always with fresh soil or amended soil always slurry before you plant /transplant ....
I have had good experience with ROOTS Organics B2 soil mix with Nectar, prolly the only other soil mix I would recommend if Nectar isn't an option. Its a real porous media, fast draining like Nectar #8 soil. Its 50/50 peat/coco w/ pumice/perlite/lime for ph and with a super light charge or organic amendments, plus microbes. And there is no compost or forest material added.....very important!! Its designed for growers who want more control over feeds, as you can start feeding in it once transplant has settled in, after 1 week usually. The other bonus is its the same price as nectar soil but comes in 2 cu ft bags. Check it out, its a good alternate.
 

bubba73

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I have had good experience with ROOTS Organics B2 soil mix with Nectar, prolly the only other soil mix I would recommend if Nectar isn't an option. Its a real porous media, fast draining like Nectar #8 soil. Its 50/50 peat/coco w/ pumice/perlite/lime for ph and with a super light charge or organic amendments, plus microbes. And there is no compost or forest material added.....very important!! Its designed for growers who want more control over feeds, as you can start feeding in it once transplant has settled in, after 1 week usually. The other bonus is its the same price as nectar soil but comes in 2 cu ft bags. Check it out, its a good alternate.

from personal experience roots organic 707 has a ppm around 2000 and ph of 5.9 which is great when dealing with salt nutrients ... few years ago did a big grow op where we used #4 for seedlings and clones then starting in flower used roots organic and really just water with hardly using any nutrients , turn out ok but not the best .. the more I start really getting into the nectar and reading all thats in them bottles the more I stuck with with it and use the KISS factor . but again its what available to you and how you work it ...
 

IrieRoots

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Yeah I've got a lot of reading to do this weekend... I found the NFTG bible, gotta go through that...
A must read!! The OCG videos too, especially the one where Scott goes over every bottle!! Plus the viewer questions videos, and this whole thread covers A lot too. Easy to get overwhelmed, just take it slow.....before long you will be giving us tips!!
 

IrieRoots

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from personal experience roots organic 707 has a ppm around 2000 and ph of 5.9 which is great when dealing with salt nutrients ... few years ago did a big grow op where we used #4 for seedlings and clones then starting in flower used roots organic and really just water with hardly using any nutrients , turn out ok but not the best .. the more I start really getting into the nectar and reading all thats in them bottles the more I stuck with with it and use the KISS factor . but again its what available to you and how you work it ...
Oh yeah Roots Original and 707 can go Damn near a month of watering without feeding, that B2 mix is their professional mix, very light charge, is PH stable, and very similar to Nectar #8 soil.... I love the stuff but I'm a NectarHEAD so it's #4 for me too......LOL......B2 is a close 2nd, if thats not an option either, you make your own or find an available soil mix that has similar inputs. Royal GOLD brand plays nice too but only experienced with #4, #8, and B2.
 

bubba73

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while on bottles lets go over BK .... this is me when foliar in veg with BK ... before I do a BK foliar I will do a slurry to see where my #s are at , lets say is a herc flush day but my ppm are650-700 range but my ph is in range .. what I do is still give it the herc then ill do BK foliar .. now the strength of the BK will depend on my ppm if I go 1/4 , 1/2 or full strength , then next feed you should have the ppms in check ....slurries ppm 300-500 range .. 250min , 600 max .. as ph anything above 7.2 will cause issues if it not taken care of , taken care of is over a few days and not instant ... And Irie as I thought with my wet amended soil with ppm /ph ..more dry it gets the ppm drops and the ph rises , so im think when it time to use the soil im gonna try to get the ppm close to 500 ppm as possible with ph of 6.2-6.4...
 

IrieRoots

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while on bottles lets go over BK .... this is me when foliar in veg with BK ... before I do a BK foliar I will do a slurry to see where my #s are at , lets say is a herc flush day but my ppm are650-700 range but my ph is in range .. what I do is still give it the herc then ill do BK foliar .. now the strength of the BK will depend on my ppm if I go 1/4 , 1/2 or full strength , then next feed you should have the ppms in check ....slurries ppm 300-500 range .. 250min , 600 max .. as ph anything above 7.2 will cause issues if it not taken care of , taken care of is over a few days and not instant ... And Irie as I thought with my wet amended soil with ppm /ph ..more dry it gets the ppm drops and the ph rises , so im think when it time to use the soil im gonna try to get the ppm close to 500 ppm as possible with ph of 6.2-6.4...
Spot on with BK, anyone who follows what bubba does with his BK is going to really see what NECTAR is capable of. I've come to using it just like this, of course I had to figure it out with trial & error and watching videos. Now new growers to the line will have the perfect BK start point. Thanks Bubba!! Its also a good idea to have built up some calcium feeds prior to starting BK foliars, nothing crazy....just 4-6 Nectar schedule feeds, and should be a healthy plant. Don't want to hit a locked out plant with BK!!
 

IrieRoots

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Love the updates on the ammended soil Bubba, keep them coming!! I'm curious to see how they perform!! Might be able to just drive them with home with light bottle feeds and of course HERC!! I tried to do a LOS, like a Coots mix, and drive it with just HERC, but wasn't experienced enough yet at the time. I know it can be done, my experiment ran out of gas in early flower, so ended up using more bottles to finish, but I know it can be done.
 

bubba73

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Love the updates on the ammended soil Bubba, keep them coming!! I'm curious to see how they perform!! Might be able to just drive them with home with light bottle feeds and of course HERC!! I tried to do a LOS, like a Coots mix, and drive it with just HERC, but wasn't experienced enough yet at the time. I know it can be done, my experiment ran out of gas in early flower, so ended up using more bottles to finish, but I know it can be done.
im thinking one shot could come into play in flower , but.... the nitrogen is what scares me ...
 
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