NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

IrieRoots

IrieRoots

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DoubleX5150 said:
Another thing I keep reading is they say it's a no-no to mix the nutrients in your gallon of water before adding the water. Why is that? I've tried both methods and it seems to mix better if I add the nutrients before the water.
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The nutrients are concentrated, the different acids/ph's minerals etc react agressively and lock up. I would love a stirracane but !$$$$$!! Because you gotta keep feed water mixing constantly.
 
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bubba73

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DoubleX5150 said:
Another thing I keep reading is they say it's a no-no to mix the nutrients in your gallon of water before adding the water. Why is that? I've tried both methods and it seems to mix better if I add the nutrients before the water.
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add the nutrients into the water .. don't add nutrients then water ... am I reading that right ?
 
IrieRoots

IrieRoots

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Gaia and Medusa could mix but they are both pretty soluble. Definitely don't want to do Zues or Poseidon like that. Main thing to do first is shake the fuck out them b4 you measure. I think a lot of people don't do it enough and can get HOT concentrations......or watered down.
 
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DoubleX5150

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Another question I have: I did a slurry test and my pH is hovering around 5.8/5.9, next feed should I just do it plain with HH and Olympus Up? Or should I do the pro-level regimen with some Olympus added?
 
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bubba73

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DoubleX5150 said:
Another question I have: I did a slurry test and my pH is hovering around 5.8/5.9, next feed should I just do it plain with HH and Olympus Up? Or should I do the pro-level regimen with some Olympus added?
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depends if your on FFT /FFF ? either way you want to do a curative flush with herc at ph 7.0
with ph that low I bet your ppm are 700-900

gotta ask which soil you using and what stage of growth are you in ...
 
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IrieRoots

IrieRoots

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DoubleX5150 said:
Another question I have: I did a slurry test and my pH is hovering around 5.8/5.9, next feed should I just do it plain with HH and Olympus Up? Or should I do the pro-level regimen with some Olympus added?
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Pending on your ppm you might be able Gaia reset the soil.....30 ml Ph to 7.0/7.2 this will tie up some of whatever has it so low and feed a little while the calcium from Oly helps to pull you up into the 6's.....really depends on what stage too!! In veg reset at like 6.6/6.7.........if bloom 7.0/7.1.......really important if in bloom to as you need to be in the upper 6's to move the calphos up!!
 
IrieRoots

IrieRoots

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Its going to take few feeds at the higher ph range to stabilise it......the Oly will build up in soil and help keep it in range......plus all the other CAL sources helping too. Just can't be corrected overnight, you have to work with it and its better to be on the safe side with gentle nutes until you see better #'s.
 
zzeroo

zzeroo

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IrieRoots said:
Zero......I know why I keep not picking up Sea Green, I know you said you use it. It has Potassium Hydroxide. Its a lower concentration than some kelp based products but not good for organics. It can kill microbes instantly. You want to use kelp products that are cold pressed to extract the goods!! The hydroxide is a chemical digester, thats why they claim it works on salt buildup.
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fuck fuck fuck....down the toilet it goes ..fuck:wall:..... I knew that To IrieRoot someone told that before I just fucking forgot fuck
 
zzeroo

zzeroo

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bubba73 said:
I don't have a run off either... I get onto that in a min.... feed more less volume even feeding at 1/2 gallon every other day was pushing on the dry side , I could do half gallon a day but that mite push to getting wet feet . lets get back to run off , its not a bad thing to do but not really needed ... if you wanna see how good you are , when your feed ppm and your run off ppm are +/- 200 ppm you are spot on and keeping slurries in range ...even a flush once in awhile is good even if its a 5% runoff ...
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don't know if I'm that good but i am going to do more slurry next round I'm going up to 3 gals pots, I no it sounds dumb but i can't put all those holes in my pots
 
zzeroo

zzeroo

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I have a Very gently used bottle of Sea Green...FREE...pay for shipping and it is yours.
 
zzeroo

zzeroo

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Yo Roots ... Are you sure

FAQ
“Our products are formulated not only for the plant, but also so
they are not disruptive to the biological processes that feed the plant.
We feed the soil so the soil can feed the plants.”
Joseph Johnson, CEO Primordial Solution

https://primordialsolutions.com/faq/
 
zzeroo

zzeroo

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I just notice I have some mother earth biochar can i use that or is earthshine blend just better with all the extras
 
IrieRoots

IrieRoots

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zzeroo said:
I just notice I have some mother earth biochar can i use that or is earthshine blend just better with all the extras
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Earthshine is a high quality char, but using what you have should be good too. Black Owl Biochar is supposed be the absolute best, I use TEAlabs Biochar and its a really good quality. Just make sure the mother earth is buffered/innoculated or it will rob nitrogen from you soil.
 
IrieRoots

IrieRoots

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zzeroo said:
Yo Roots ... Are you sure

FAQ
“Our products are formulated not only for the plant, but also so
they are not disruptive to the biological processes that feed the plant.
We feed the soil so the soil can feed the plants.”
Joseph Johnson, CEO Primordial Solution

https://primordialsolutions.com/faq/
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I'm sure its low concentrations, but I still wouldn't put it in the root zone. You can foliar it just to use it up, but I think you use to eat up salts. Nectar is far from salty, and any salts that might build up are taken care of by HERC, SLF, tea, em1, etc. Plus if your going to recycle your soil, which you should because it only gets better, you don't want that hydroxide hanging around.
 
IrieRoots

IrieRoots

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zzeroo said:
don't know if I'm that good but i am going to do more slurry next round I'm going up to 3 gals pots, I no it sounds dumb but i can't put all those holes in my pots
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3 gallons make it a breeze. I take a chopstick and break up a little half moon in the top of soil where I'm taking slurry, then I scrap that away because when I just push my measuring spoon down the side without doing this it breaks off a larger section of soil & roots. So I clear the bone gum and some topsoil so I can push the Tablespoon down side of pot, wiggle/press/up&down/sidetoside and as I pull the spoon up it comes out with a perfect tablespoon of soil, repeat to get another tablespoon to measure. Take the broken up half moon soil and work it back into the slurry whole. Mix it with some castings or fresh soil If more is required to plug the hole. Bubba has it a little easier, he is in 5 gallons, there is all kinds of room to slurry but I still recommend breaking up the surface like explained.
 
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bubba73

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IrieRoots said:
3 gallons make it a breeze. I take a chopstick and break up a little half moon in the top of soil where I'm taking slurry, then I scrap that away because when I just push my measuring spoon down the side without doing this it breaks off a larger section of soil & roots. So I clear the bone gum and some topsoil so I can push the Tablespoon down side of pot, wiggle/press/up&down/sidetoside and as I pull the spoon up it comes out with a perfect tablespoon of soil, repeat to get another tablespoon to measure. Take the broken up half moon soil and work it back into the slurry whole. Mix it with some castings or fresh soil If more is required to plug the hole. Bubba has it a little easier, he is in 5 gallons, there is all kinds of room to slurry but I still recommend breaking up the surface like explained.
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zzeroo brings up an interesting point .... I do slurries often and put the soil right back in .. when I do a slurry using RO , wonder if that skews with my soil and roots ? I take it at different spots but still....
 
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