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[NoWaistedSpace]

Why would dry soil lead to nutrient burn? Is this what you're trying to say, NWS?

No, more like the actual drying of the roots cleared the plants "sinus" up, and the plant took up a rush of nutrients which slightly burnt the leaves some. Perked the plant up after watering. Plants need to dry out completely on occasion.

 

[OscarZulu]

When did you transplant?

You said you let it dry out for a week, pretty much what I said to do and then comes the nutrient burn as I said would happen.
I am asking, was your roots cold? Cold soil leads to holding moisture and nutes aren't used.
If you say you didn't over water, I believe you.
I see the same thing in my plants this time of year.

My roots have not gotten colder than room temp which would be 69 at the coldest in recent weeks. My temps are pretty well controlled between 80 max and 68 low. I admittedly did feed thisnplant a lot on top of having FFOF for soil, I attempted to flush with a total of roughly 15 gallons of water now in a 5 gallon pot. Idk how effective this was. Perhaps you are correct however, a good chance this soul dried up, so the plants weren’t able to uptake the rich soil, and now in watering again the drooping is gone because there is water available but it’s still getting burned from rich soul. It’s so hard and I feel I will not likely fix this with a forum post, but input is appreciated and I’m hoping with advice and input I can’t put intelligent advice to use for further grows.

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

I'd say you pretty much washed a good bit of your nutrients out.
Do you have something like 'Recharge"?
Also, try some type of 'foliar feeding". That helps,
Maybe get you a "moisture probe". I need one myself.

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

This will help explain how the plant uses water and nutrients.
Kinda gives you an idea about how humidity plays a roll in it.
We are all here to learn.

 

[polishpollack]

nowastedspace, that's not an accurate understanding. if there's any over ferting, the grower did it. it's not a matter of water or no water. plants take up water and maintain turgor pressure. this is what prompts a plant to stand up and out rather than droop.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turgor_pressure

 

[NoWaistedSpace]

nowastedspace, that's not an accurate understanding. if there's any over ferting, the grower did it. it's not a matter of water or no water. plants take up water and maintain turgor pressure. this is what prompts a plant to stand up and out rather than droop.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turgor_pressure

If things are too far out, the plant slows , unknowingly, the grower keeps his normal feeding schedules and the nutes keep building up.
Water then carries the nutrient build up up the plant. All these issues can be from too much water,
"over watering' is one of the main causes of the symptoms his plants were showing.
The roots can't get Oxygen and the plant begins to suffocate.

 

[polishpollack]

Did you not read this thread? The grower plainly states it's not over watering. One episode of watering doesn't equal over watering. I think you're the one that's too far out. You make no sense.

 

[OscarZulu]

This is what my leaves are doing. Still standing tall, but leaves remain dying.

 

[polishpollack]

You really shouldn't have to add more fert to FFOF. Not for a while anyway. It's possible the soil can last an entire grow if there is enough of it.

 

[OscarZulu]

You really shouldn't have to add more fert to FFOF. Not for a while anyway. It's possible the soil can last an entire grow if there is enough of it.

This plant has been veg for 3 months

 

[Diabolical666]

Things that could of caused this: 15 gal of water, feeding, bad water and or all of that. Plant is stressed to the max. Hold onto it for a bit and hope for new growth with nicely spaced nodes...anythijg other than that progress id pitch it and start over. Make the space for something worthwhile

 

[polishpollack]

The flush of ten gallons wasn't a great idea, but I still think that since OZ says they gave lots and lots of P, that this is the problem. I realize that a discoloration was probably started before all the P was given, but you can't load up FFOF soil with other ferts and expect your plants to survive. If anything, small amounts of a balanced fert should be used. Being in veg for three months is a long time. Usually people finish an indoor grow in three months. I don't think this grow is being handled right, no offense, but this seems to be an example of what not to do. Phosphorus is more needed in flowering anyway as I understand it.

 

[redivider]

It's going to be impossible to tell what's going on if you keep changing the variables every 3 days.

Water, don't water, add nutes, flush, top dress, move the pot, .... I got dizzy just looking at the thread, it was opened on Feb 1 it is only Feb 10 and you've

1) Flushed
2) Added nutes
3) flushed again
4) top dressed
5) readjusted PH

I think you might water a little too often and maybe your soil is too 'dead' meaning it could use a larger culture of beneficial bacteria.

A touch of molasses in a watering, add a touch of worm humus or guano to the next watering. A TOUCH. Just to dirty the water a bit. Maybe 1-2ML per Litre.... that'll put you in the 60-100ppm range of nute content, but the real kicker is the beneficial bacteria that'll travel into the soil along with the water....

FFOF is 'organic' but that label has been so bastardized i would not be surprised there's some chemical stuff in there that passes organic because of some shit technicality - and maybe you don't have the bacteria colony you want and a phosphorus deficiency is how it is expressing itself....